[blparent] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Blind Parents Meeting
Scott Lawlor
sklawlor at mac.com
Sat Jun 6 16:42:33 UTC 2009
If you want to tell your story, you should be able to without being judged.
We all have different backgrounds and come from different situations and I
would hope that no one would make a snap judgement about another based on a
past experience.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Blind Parents Meeting
> Even if there is no danger, and it traumatized the children involved? It
> nearly happened ot me. I want to tell my story, but i am afraid of the
> snap judgements people will make, considering the circumstances.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <kate02 at bellsouth.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 7:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Blind Parents Meeting
>
>
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> It falls under an unsafe environment. If a parent is a danger to a
>> child, and the other parent does nothing, they are allowing the child to
>> stay in a dangerous situation.
>>
>> I see nothing wrong with this policy since I love my children more then
>> my partner.
>>
>> Kate
>>
>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>> From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net>
>>>
>>> Did you know that if they feel one or the other parent is endangering
>>> your
>>> children, they cna threaten that if the parents don't get a divorce, the
>>> children can be removed? I have a friend that happened to because his
>>> mother had a mental illness.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: <kate02 at bellsouth.net>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 7:57 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Blind Parents Meeting
>>>
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Hi.
>>> >
>>> > It is true that there are workers who try to run their own agenda but
>>> > I
>>> > need to point out that they are disciplined if evidence is found to
>>> > show
>>> > mishandling of a case. Even though you may be one who receives unfair
>>> > treatment, and may feel that it doesn’t matter, those who don’t follow
>>> > guidelines are handled. There have even been workers who have been
>>> > sent
>>> > to prison for mishandling a case so please don’t think they just do
>>> > what
>>> > they please and all they receive is a slap on the wrist.
>>> >
>>> > Kate
>>> >
>>> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>> > From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn" <tcl189 at rogers.com>
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> I totally agree with the below. I have never been threatened with
>>> >> the
>>> >> removal of my children although I do feel that I've been treated
>>> >> unfairly
>>> >> by
>>> >> a few of their workers. It would be nice if everyone in those fields
>>> >> would
>>> >> have the same attitude as your husband, but unfortunately not
>>> >> everyone
>>> >> does.
>>> >> Some people are just following their own agenda and thinking they're
>>> >> going
>>> >> to help the world by bullying people who are just trying to do the
>>> >> best
>>> >> they
>>> >> can with what they've got.
>>> >>
>>> >> Tammy
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: <kate02 at bellsouth.net>
>>> >> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:36 AM
>>> >> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Re: Blind Parents Meeting
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I am all for being prepared for the unexpected though there is a
>>> >> > fine
>>> >> > line
>>> >> > between educating and causing a panic. I would like to point out
>>> >> > that
>>> >> > these agencies have the child and families best interest in mind.
>>> >> > My
>>> >> > husband use to work for DCF in New York and I asked him if he ever
>>> >> > had
>>> >> > cases where a blind parent lost their children because of just
>>> >> > being
>>> >> > blind.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > He told me in the twelve years he was in the field and the five he
>>> >> > trained
>>> >> > behind a desk that he only remembers maybe five calls having to do
>>> >> > with
>>> >> > blind parents. He pointed out that there were a few removed but
>>> >> > they
>>> >> > were
>>> >> > removed because of either Neglect, lack of adequate clothing,
>>> >> > abuse,
>>> >> > living in filth, endangerment regardless if the parent was aware
>>> >> > that
>>> >> > what
>>> >> > they did caused the dangerous situation. The main goal is to keep
>>> >> > families together that is why there are parenting classes offered
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > parents who fall in to categories that cause a case to be open.
>>> >> > Its up
>>> >> > to
>>> >> > the parent if they want to take them and they are informed of
>>> >> > ramifications if they don’t except the assistance.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > No one is out to get you because you’re a blind parent they just
>>> >> > can’t
>>> >> > imagine parenting a child with out sight so they ask questions. I
>>> >> > would
>>> >> > rather they ask then just take my kids and leave me with no
>>> >> > recourse,
>>> >> > I
>>> >> > think these agencies are too involved at times but parents should
>>> >> > remember
>>> >> > to only give relevant information not just start telling them every
>>> >> > thing
>>> >> > only answer what they ask and offer nothing.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > OK that’s my two cense, Jumping off of soap box. *smile*
>>> >> > Kate
>>> >> >
>>> >> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>> >> > From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I may have been more nervous about Social Services from hearing
>>> >> >> stories
>>> >> >> like
>>> >> >> the ones on this list, but I was also better prepared when the
>>> >> >> social
>>> >> >> worker
>>> >> >> and the two police officers knocked on my door. I was horrified
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> angry,
>>> >> >> but I didn't feel alone. I took the encounter more in stride than
>>> >> >> I
>>> >> >> might
>>> >> >> have if I hadn't known that many other blind parents have gone
>>> >> >> through
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> same ordeal.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Jo Elizabeth
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> "Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be
>>> >> >> changed
>>> >> >> until it is faced."--James Baldwin
>>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >> From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn" <tcl189 at rogers.com>
>>> >> >> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:34 PM
>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Re: Blind Parents Meeting
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > Hi,
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > They're not stories Rebecca, they're true, and if sharing them
>>> >> >> > with
>>> >> >> > lists
>>> >> >> > like this one and meetings, they're be better prepared should
>>> >> >> > this
>>> >> >> > sort
>>> >> >> > of
>>> >> >> > thing happen to them.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Tammy
>>> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> >> > From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>>> >> >> > To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 4:52 PM
>>> >> >> > Subject: [Bulk] Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> I'm not doubting anybody, just that I don't see a lot of
>>> >> >> >> education
>>> >> >> >> going
>>> >> >> >> on just stories. If there is a lesson in these stories, I'm
>>> >> >> >> totally
>>> >> >> >> missing it.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
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