[blparent] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Blind Parents Meeting

Sat Jun 6 18:40:26 UTC 2009

I agree.  Nobody should be judging anybody.  I personally find it 
interesting to hear these stories, and I do believe they might help other 
parents who find themselves in the same situation some day.  Isn't that part 
of what this list is about?
Leanne

"Faith is being sure of what we hope for
and certain of what we do not see."
Hebrews 11:1
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Lawlor" <sklawlor at mac.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Blind Parents Meeting

> If you want to tell your story, you should be able to without being 
> judged. We all have different backgrounds and come from different 
> situations and I would hope that no one would make a snap judgement about 
> another based on a past experience.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 11:37 AM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Blind Parents Meeting
>
>
>> Even if there is no danger, and it traumatized the children involved?  It 
>> nearly happened ot me.  I want to tell my story, but i am afraid of the 
>> snap judgements people will make, considering the circumstances.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <kate02 at bellsouth.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 7:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Blind Parents Meeting
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> It falls under an unsafe environment.  If a parent is a danger to a 
>>> child, and the other parent does nothing, they are allowing the child to 
>>> stay in a dangerous situation.
>>>
>>> I see nothing wrong with this policy since I love my children more then 
>>> my partner.
>>>
>>> Kate
>>>
>>> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>> From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net>
>>>>
>>>> Did you know that if they feel one or the other parent is endangering 
>>>> your
>>>> children, they cna threaten that if the parents don't get a divorce, 
>>>> the
>>>> children can be removed?  I have a friend that happened to because his
>>>> mother had a mental illness.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: <kate02 at bellsouth.net>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 7:57 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Blind Parents Meeting
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi.
>>>> >
>>>> > It is true that there are workers who try to run their own agenda but 
>>>> > I
>>>> > need to point out that they are disciplined if evidence is found to 
>>>> > show
>>>> > mishandling of a case.  Even though you may be one who receives 
>>>> > unfair
>>>> > treatment, and may feel that it doesn’t matter, those who don’t 
>>>> > follow
>>>> > guidelines are handled.  There have even been workers who have been 
>>>> > sent
>>>> > to prison for mishandling a case so please don’t think they just do 
>>>> > what
>>>> > they please and all they receive is a slap on the wrist.
>>>> >
>>>> > Kate
>>>> >
>>>> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>>> > From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn" <tcl189 at rogers.com>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I totally agree with the below.  I have never been threatened with 
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> removal of my children although I do feel that I've been treated 
>>>> >> unfairly
>>>> >> by
>>>> >> a few of their workers.  It would be nice if everyone in those 
>>>> >> fields
>>>> >> would
>>>> >> have the same attitude as your husband, but unfortunately not 
>>>> >> everyone
>>>> >> does.
>>>> >> Some people are just following their own agenda and thinking they're
>>>> >> going
>>>> >> to help the world by bullying people who are just trying to do the 
>>>> >> best
>>>> >> they
>>>> >> can with what they've got.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Tammy
>>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> >> From: <kate02 at bellsouth.net>
>>>> >> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 8:36 AM
>>>> >> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Re: Blind Parents Meeting
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I am all for being prepared for the unexpected though there is a 
>>>> >> > fine
>>>> >> > line
>>>> >> > between educating and causing a panic.  I would like to point out 
>>>> >> > that
>>>> >> > these agencies have the child and families best interest in mind. 
>>>> >> > My
>>>> >> > husband use to work for DCF in New York and I asked him if he ever 
>>>> >> > had
>>>> >> > cases where a blind parent lost their children because of just 
>>>> >> > being
>>>> >> > blind.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > He told me in the twelve years he was in the field and the five he
>>>> >> > trained
>>>> >> > behind a desk that he only remembers maybe five calls having to do 
>>>> >> > with
>>>> >> > blind parents.  He pointed out that there were a few removed but 
>>>> >> > they
>>>> >> > were
>>>> >> > removed because of either Neglect, lack of adequate clothing, 
>>>> >> > abuse,
>>>> >> > living in filth, endangerment regardless if the parent was aware 
>>>> >> > that
>>>> >> > what
>>>> >> > they did caused the dangerous situation.  The main goal is to keep
>>>> >> > families together that is why there are parenting classes offered 
>>>> >> > to
>>>> >> > parents who fall in to categories that cause a case to be open. 
>>>> >> > Its up
>>>> >> > to
>>>> >> > the parent if they want to take them and they are informed of
>>>> >> > ramifications if they don’t except the assistance.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > No one is out to get you because you’re a blind parent they just 
>>>> >> > can’t
>>>> >> > imagine parenting a child with out sight so they ask questions.  I
>>>> >> > would
>>>> >> > rather they ask then just take my kids and leave me with no 
>>>> >> > recourse,
>>>> >> > I
>>>> >> > think these agencies are too involved at times but parents should
>>>> >> > remember
>>>> >> > to only give relevant information not just start telling them 
>>>> >> > every
>>>> >> > thing
>>>> >> > only answer what they ask and offer nothing.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > OK that’s my two cense,  Jumping off of soap box.  *smile*
>>>> >> > Kate
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
>>>> >> > From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> I may have been more nervous about Social Services from hearing
>>>> >> >> stories
>>>> >> >> like
>>>> >> >> the ones on this list, but I was also better prepared when the 
>>>> >> >> social
>>>> >> >> worker
>>>> >> >> and the two police officers knocked on my door.  I was horrified 
>>>> >> >> and
>>>> >> >> angry,
>>>> >> >> but I didn't feel alone.  I took the encounter more in stride 
>>>> >> >> than I
>>>> >> >> might
>>>> >> >> have if I hadn't known that many other blind parents have gone 
>>>> >> >> through
>>>> >> >> the
>>>> >> >> same ordeal.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Jo Elizabeth
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> "Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be
>>>> >> >> changed
>>>> >> >> until it is faced."--James Baldwin
>>>> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> >> >> From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn" <tcl189 at rogers.com>
>>>> >> >> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:34 PM
>>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [blparent] [Bulk] Re: Blind Parents Meeting
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> > Hi,
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > They're not stories Rebecca, they're true, and if sharing them 
>>>> >> >> > with
>>>> >> >> > lists
>>>> >> >> > like this one and meetings, they're be better prepared should 
>>>> >> >> > this
>>>> >> >> > sort
>>>> >> >> > of
>>>> >> >> > thing happen to them.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Tammy
>>>> >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> >> >> > From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (IS)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at ngc.com>
>>>> >> >> > To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 4:52 PM
>>>> >> >> > Subject: [Bulk] Re: [blparent] Blind Parents Meeting
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> I'm not doubting anybody, just that I don't see a lot of 
>>>> >> >> >> education
>>>> >> >> >> going
>>>> >> >> >> on just stories. If there is a lesson in these stories, I'm 
>>>> >> >> >> totally
>>>> >> >> >> missing it.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
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