[blparent] toddler in crowds

Amy Murillo-Hicks amym2 at cox.net
Tue May 11 14:26:37 UTC 2010 

The issue with this, is can the child focus when needed and interested.  Not 
does he/she move around allot.

Kids especially boys have so much energy, and it is critical that they spend 
it. When they cut PE from Jordan's school, he got in trouble every day.  He 
still does in middle school for being too figity.  I made arrangements with 
his teachers, in elementary school, for him to have the opportunity to run 
around the playground when he could not sit still. Our society is so much 
different than it use to be for kids. Two things are happening.

1. The kids are changing, and they just sit in front of a TV or computer or 
something, and obesity may become an issue, or
2.  They have a higher risk of being labeled.

As blind parents, it is even more important that we get our kids out and 
moving.  We all know what it is like to cary labels,and I know I fight even 
harder to make sure labels don't get attached to my children if they don't 
have to be.

ADD and ADHD is very real however. My husband has ADD, and he really has 
trouble with completing tasks, maintaining long sequenced trains of 
thoughts, and all kinds of other issues that impact his life because his 
parents did not address it when he was a kid.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn" <tcl189 at rogers.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: [blparent] toddler in crowds


> Hi,
>
> My son is school age and still doesn't like to sit for any length of time. 
> But that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with him.
>
> Tammy
>
> Tammydoesn't mean
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 3:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] toddler in crowds
>
>
>> No, you're not.  I said nothing about todlers or preschoolers.  When i 
>> say "outgrow"  I mean by elementary schol age when children are expected 
>> to sit for longer periods.  I also used the words "might be a 
>> possibility", not "does have" or "is going to have".  I ma perfectly well 
>> aware of what is acceptable at toddler and preschool age, thank you very 
>> much.  Sorry about the post, everyone.  Just clarifying a few things 
>> here.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 8:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] toddler in crowds
>>
>>
>>>I am paying attention.  There is no such thing as hyperactivity disorder 
>>>in toddlers, it is very rare in preschool age children, and just because 
>>>a toddler wanders doesn't mean he might possibly have ADHD.  Even putting 
>>>that out as a possibility at his age is absurd.
>>>
>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Joy Wolf" <joy at kevinlwolf.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 7:50 PM
>>> To: "'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] toddler in crowds
>>>
>>>> I must respectfully agree that even with that if, it is very easy to 
>>>> worry
>>>> parents unnecessarily with those kinds of possibilities.  Of course, 
>>>> it's
>>>> possible, but so are a lot of things.  I guess maybe I have heard too 
>>>> many
>>>> people, both acquaintances and professionals, go on about what could 
>>>> happen,
>>>> how a child might develop, and what if this doesn't get better.  In 
>>>> fact, my
>>>> parents were told that developmentally I wouldn't pass the age of about 
>>>> five
>>>> years.  Lol, I'd like to think I did, though.  I guess what I'm saying 
>>>> is
>>>> that I can see why some would be sensitive to even the thought that 
>>>> there
>>>> may be a problem, when what is being faced right now is normal toddler
>>>> behavior.  In fact, at four years old, my son will get distracted by
>>>> something and wander, and there are no signs whatsoever of ADHD, unless 
>>>> the
>>>> only criteria is occasionally wandering away.  No offense intended 
>>>> here, but
>>>> I can see why this might not have been taken in the best way.  In other
>>>> words, why get ahead of ourselves?  Have a good week everyone.
>>>>
>>>> Joy and family
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>>> On
>>>> Behalf Of Elizabeth Cooks
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 8:24 PM
>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] toddler in crowds
>>>>
>>>> I said if he doesn't outgrow that.  Pay attention.  The operative word
>>>> hereis "if".
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at pcdesk.net>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 7:00 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] toddler in crowds
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hey, back up the bus.  Shannon's son is very young, and wandering is
>>>>> something that all toddlers do.  There is absolutely no reason in the
>>>>> world to start thinking that he might have ADHD because he wanders at 
>>>>> the
>>>>> age of two, or somewhere around that age.  I have a pretty good deal 
>>>>> of
>>>>> knowledge about ADHD because of my stepson, and it positively does not
>>>>> exist in toddlers, and very rarely in preschoolers.  I'm not meaning 
>>>>> to be
>>>>
>>>>> rude or anything, but it's way too early to start ringing alarm bells
>>>>> about a problem that isn't there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Having said that, keeping track of a toddler in a crowd is difficult.
>>>>> It's a strain for me even in a small church on Sundays.  The child 
>>>>> leash
>>>>> does help, and having people you trust keep their eyes open helps 
>>>>> also.
>>>>> There are child locators that sound an alarm when you push a button. 
>>>>> The
>>>>> child wears a beeper that goes off.  Teaching a child to answer when
>>>>> called is good as he gets older.  But to be perfectly honest, I've 
>>>>> found
>>>>> that without sighted help, it's very difficult to keep tabs on Sarah 
>>>>> in a
>>>>> crowd.  Because of that, I plan where I go if I am on my own to avoid
>>>>> noisy, busy situations, or I go when someone who can see is available. 
>>>>> I
>>>>> seek out opportunities to go places with sighted people when I can 
>>>>> because
>>>>
>>>>> I don't want to take away experiences that would be valuable for Sarah 
>>>>> to
>>>>> have, like playing on busy playgrounds.  It will probably put some 
>>>>> super
>>>>> turbo independent blind people off, but for the sake of my child's 
>>>>> safety,
>>>>
>>>>> I've personally decided that there are some places I'd rather not go
>>>>> unless I have a sighted companion.  That may change as Sarah gets 
>>>>> older
>>>>> and more verbal, but for now, I make sure we get out often and have a 
>>>>> lot
>>>>> of friends, and that I do things with her at home every single day 
>>>>> instead
>>>>
>>>>> of just being in the same room.
>>>>> F
>>>>> or what it's worth,
>>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 6:47 PM
>>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] toddler in crowds
>>>>>
>>>>>> Keep a child leash on him.  If he doesn't outgrow that, ADHD might be 
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> possibility.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Shannan Zinck" <shannanzinck at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 2:15 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [blparent] toddler in crowds
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sooo went to Moncton this weekend for a missions trip. a 1 nighter.
>>>>>>> Anyway
>>>>>>> how do you guys cope with being in large crowds with a toddler who 
>>>>>>> loves
>>>>
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> wander. He's a good kid but, can't keep still to save his life. We 
>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> an overnight shelter, (the one we used to work at) and I found it 
>>>>>>> really
>>>>>>> nerve racking. I used the harness when I could but, I'm one of the
>>>>>>> singers
>>>>>>> so had to be up front and get some friends to watch him. Most of my
>>>>>>> friends
>>>>>>> are sighted so it's easier for them to chase him around the center. 
>>>>>>> well
>>>>
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> am claustrophobic as well so crowds freak me out anyway and with a
>>>>>>> toddler
>>>>>>> running around it's 10 times worse. I was sort of fine until I had 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> rely
>>>>>>> totally on my friends that's hard. His birth mom was there too and 
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>> him
>>>>>>> much of the time so I was a little wary and was constantly straining 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> where he was and half the time I didn't know exactly. I trust my 
>>>>>>> friends
>>>>>>> but, I'm not always going to have the option of having them around 
>>>>>>> every
>>>>>>> time I take a trip. We did well on this trip but, quite leary about
>>>>>>> taking
>>>>>>> another one.
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Shannan Zinck
>>>>>>> Survival is letting GOD take over!!!
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