[blparent] need urgent help

Tue May 25 23:41:39 UTC 2010

Hi,

How do you know they aren't?  You and I have no idea what's going on, we 
were just asked for advice, and I gave the best advice I could give. 
Obviously cps thinks they have a good reason for taking the child away from 
it's parents, so that's what they've done.  Right or wrong is not for us to 
say since we really are only hearing one side of things.  Yes, children have 
been taken away just because of their parent's disability, and I hope that's 
not happening here.  but I don't know that cps doesn't have a good reason, 
and I'm not going to just assume this couple are being unfairly treated just 
because they're blind either.  I just think something is very wrong with 
this situation, and I hope it gets resolved either way.

Tammy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: [blparent] need urgent help

> They still have to follow procedures.  Blind parents have had their 
> children taken away for much less.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn" <tcl189 at rogers.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 8:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] need urgent help
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> If it were against the law they wouldn't have taken the baby, and they 
>> obviously have, so they obviously have their reasons however misguided. 
>> This whole thing doesn't sound right to me, like somebody's not being 
>> told everything.  It doesn't make sense for a nurse to call cps just 
>> because the baby was having trouble breathing or having trouble breast 
>> feeding. Most nurses go in to super support mode if a mother's having 
>> trouble, and definitely if a baby is.  They're there to help parents, and 
>> unless she saw something wrong like the mother having trouble coping, or 
>> if the parents were perceived to be aggressive toward the baby, the 
>> hospital staff, or the social workers as is often the case when blind 
>> people are questioned about their abilities, she wouldn't have a reason 
>> to even call a social worker.  I know that most hospitals have a social 
>> worker on staf who talks to every new mother before they are released 
>> from the hospital, just to make sure they have proper supports in place 
>> when they go home, and they can go to cps and the hospital and recommend 
>> the child be placed in a foster home until the parents are checked out. 
>> but something isn't right here.  The parents should seek legal advice 
>> right now!  If they wait they'll be asked why they've delayed getting 
>> legal help and the case could very well go against them because they'll 
>> be perceived not to care whether the child is with them or not.
>>
>> I hope they get the help they need, and are able to get their baby back.
>>
>> Tammy
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 6:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] need urgent help
>>
>>
>>> Against the law, get all the information contact Gary Wunder ASAP and 
>>> the National Office.
>>>
>>> And babies something breathe slower when breast feeding because they are 
>>> very close to the body, maybe she was holding the baby to close, someone 
>>> should have just suggested that she has someone in the hospital come and 
>>> watch her breast feed like someone from Leche which is a group that 
>>> helps with Breast feeding.
>>>
>>> Not to take away the baby.
>>>
>>> Cheryl Echevarria
>>> Independent Travel Consultant
>>> C10-10646
>>>
>>> http://Echevarriatravel.com
>>> 1-866-580-5574
>>>
>>> http://blog.echevarriatravel.com
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>>> CST-1018299-10
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Pipi" <blahblahblah0822 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:45 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] need urgent help
>>>
>>>
>>>> Thank you I have added Scott to the list of resources I will be giving 
>>>> the
>>>> mom in the morning.
>>>> >From what the mom has told me, she contacted the nurse because she 
>>>> >noticed
>>>> the baby having problems breathing while her first time breast feeding. 
>>>> This
>>>> nurse reported them. The social worker said they have concerns because 
>>>> both
>>>> parents are blind. she asked questions like what would they do if baby 
>>>> is
>>>> sick and how would they know if she had a fever. The mom answered  by 
>>>> saying
>>>> take a cab or ambulance depending on urgency to doctor or hospital. and 
>>>> that
>>>> there are talking thermomenters. the social worker said that she still
>>>> didn't think they had a plan and she didn't feel comfortable releasing 
>>>> baby
>>>> to them unless they had 24/7 help for the first 2 weeks. This isn't an
>>>> option for them, so the last I heard from the mom around noon was that 
>>>> their
>>>> baby was being discharged into protective custody this afternoon.
>>>> If i had the means, I'd be there as this supposed 24/7 support that is
>>>> needed just so they could bring their baby home from the hospital like 
>>>> they
>>>> should have been able to do.
>>>> Any help is greatly appreciated. And thank you everyone.
>>>> pipi
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 1:36 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] need urgent help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > They of course have rights, what state is she in and contact your NFB
>>>> > President in that state for help.  She should Scott LaBarre who is
>>>> > president of the Lawyer Division of the NFB for help.
>>>> >
>>>> > What reason are they giving these parents for wanting to take away 
>>>> > there
>>>> > children.
>>>> >
>>>> > President: Scott LaBarre
>>>> > 1660 South Albion Street, Suite 918
>>>> > Denver, Colorado 80222-4046
>>>> > Work: 303-504-5979
>>>> > Fax: 303-757-3640
>>>> > E-mail: slabarre at labarrelaw.com
>>>> > Cheryl Echevarria
>>>> > Independent Travel Consultant
>>>> > C10-10646
>>>> >
>>>> > http://Echevarriatravel.com
>>>> > 1-866-580-5574
>>>> >
>>>> > http://blog.echevarriatravel.com
>>>> > Reservations at echevarriatravel.com
>>>> > Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel
>>>> > CST-1018299-10
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> > From: "Pipi" <blahblahblah0822 at gmail.com>
>>>> > To: <blindparenting at googlegroups.com>; <blv-moms at googlegroups.com>;
>>>> > <singleblindparents at googlegroups.com>; "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing 
>>>> > List"
>>>> > <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> > Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 2:30 PM
>>>> > Subject: [blparent] need urgent help
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >> Hey y'all,
>>>> >> I have a friend who very recently gave birth. Her and her partner 
>>>> >> are
>>>> >> both
>>>> >> blind. They are having problems with cps. I don't want to go into 
>>>> >> all of
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> details, but she is being told one thing by the social worker and 
>>>> >> the
>>>> >> social
>>>> >> worker is telling her family other things. They are saying that 
>>>> >> unless
>>>> >> they
>>>> >> have 24/7 help, their child will be released into protective 
>>>> >> custody. Do
>>>> >> they have this right? What rights do the parents have? They are 
>>>> >> first
>>>> >> time
>>>> >> parents and not sure what to do. They just want their baby home with
>>>> >> them.
>>>> >> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>>>> >> pipi
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
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