[blparent] need urgent help

Wed May 26 22:31:25 UTC 2010

None of what we fight for is nonsense. Neither is anything we fight against.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn" <tcl189 at rogers.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [blparent] need urgent help


> Hi,
>
> I wish all states had this bill passed.  It seems a more sensible thing to 
> fight for than a lot of the nonsense the nfb fights for and against!
>
> Tammy
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Deborah Kent Stein" <dkent5817 at att.net>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 3:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] need urgent help
>
>
>>
>>
>> Dear Rebecca,
>>
>> In 2009 the NFB of Maryland helped get a bill passed in that state which 
>> makes it illegal to use blindness as a reason to remove a child from its 
>> parents' custody.  In other words, blindness alone cannot be used in 
>> custody disputes around divorce or in cases brought to the attention of 
>> CPS. Illinois is currently drafting a similar piece of legislation, and I 
>> believe there are initiatives in other states as well.  One issue we face 
>> is the difficulty getting information about discrimination cases when 
>> they occur. Due to confidentiality concerns it is hard to gather 
>> information. Many parents choose not to go public with their stories 
>> because the whole experience is so traumatic and humiliating that they 
>> want to put it behind them.
>>
>> Debbie
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] need urgent help
>>
>>
>>> Sorry guys.
>>> Elizabeth, I do have trouble understanding your posts, and was referring
>>> to the putting the crib on lay away as being a bit rude, it doesn't help
>>> them now. Plus lay away has its risks too, mainly that if the store goes
>>> out of business, you loose the money.
>>> I'm sorry too about your involvement with CPS which does bring up a
>>> question of what if anything NFB is dong. Seems to me like this is
>>> similar to the thing in the 1980's where blind people couldn't fly
>>> alone. That problem got licked, the CPS one from what you guys are
>>> saying hasn't. So, why not? Anybody ina leadership role care to explain?
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:05 AM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] need urgent help
>>>
>>> Me neither. It still doesn't sound right to me.
>>> And did you see Elizabeth's post saying her obgyn called CPS in? Again,
>>> nobody is ever going to say on this list something isn't right. And I
>>> can barely understand anything Elizabeth Cooks is trying to convey. She
>>> comes off as abrasive and that's only when I *do* understand her. Not
>>> sure if her husband is blind or not.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Robert Shelton
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:36 PM
>>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] need urgent help
>>>
>>> OK, forget my last post about the family.  This makes the situation a
>>> little
>>> clearer, but I still don't understand why the family and parents would
>>> hear
>>> different information from CPS.
>>>
>>> "A strong nation, like a strong person, can afford to be gentle, firm,
>>> thoughtful, and restrained. It can afford to extend a helping hand to
>>> others. It is a weak nation, like a weak person, that must behave with
>>> bluster and boasting and rashness and other signs of insecurity."
>>> --Jimmy Carter
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Pipi [mailto:blahblahblah0822 at gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:46 PM
>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] need urgent help
>>>
>>> Thank you I have added Scott to the list of resources I will be giving
>>> the
>>> mom in the morning.
>>>>From what the mom has told me, she contacted the nurse because she
>>> noticed
>>> the baby having problems breathing while her first time breast feeding.
>>> This
>>>
>>> nurse reported them. The social worker said they have concerns because
>>> both
>>> parents are blind. she asked questions like what would they do if baby
>>> is
>>> sick and how would they know if she had a fever. The mom answered  by
>>> saying
>>>
>>> take a cab or ambulance depending on urgency to doctor or hospital. and
>>> that
>>>
>>> there are talking thermomenters. the social worker said that she still
>>> didn't think they had a plan and she didn't feel comfortable releasing
>>> baby
>>> to them unless they had 24/7 help for the first 2 weeks. This isn't an
>>> option for them, so the last I heard from the mom around noon was that
>>> their
>>>
>>> baby was being discharged into protective custody this afternoon.
>>> If i had the means, I'd be there as this supposed 24/7 support that is
>>> needed just so they could bring their baby home from the hospital like
>>> they
>>> should have been able to do.
>>> Any help is greatly appreciated. And thank you everyone.
>>> pipi
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 1:36 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] need urgent help
>>>
>>>
>>>> They of course have rights, what state is she in and contact your NFB
>>>> President in that state for help.  She should Scott LaBarre who is
>>>> president of the Lawyer Division of the NFB for help.
>>>>
>>>> What reason are they giving these parents for wanting to take away
>>> there
>>>> children.
>>>>
>>>> President: Scott LaBarre
>>>> 1660 South Albion Street, Suite 918
>>>> Denver, Colorado 80222-4046
>>>> Work: 303-504-5979
>>>> Fax: 303-757-3640
>>>> E-mail: slabarre at labarrelaw.com
>>>> Cheryl Echevarria
>>>> Independent Travel Consultant
>>>> C10-10646
>>>>
>>>> http://Echevarriatravel.com
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Pipi" <blahblahblah0822 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: <blindparenting at googlegroups.com>; <blv-moms at googlegroups.com>;
>>>> <singleblindparents at googlegroups.com>; "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing
>>> List"
>>>
>>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 2:30 PM
>>>> Subject: [blparent] need urgent help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hey y'all,
>>>>> I have a friend who very recently gave birth. Her and her partner are
>>>
>>>>> both
>>>>> blind. They are having problems with cps. I don't want to go into all
>>> of
>>>>> the
>>>>> details, but she is being told one thing by the social worker and the
>>>
>>>>> social
>>>>> worker is telling her family other things. They are saying that
>>> unless
>>>>> they
>>>>> have 24/7 help, their child will be released into protective custody.
>>> Do
>>>>> they have this right? What rights do the parents have? They are first
>>>
>>>>> time
>>>>> parents and not sure what to do. They just want their baby home with
>>>>> them.
>>>>> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>>>>> pipi
>>>>>
>>>>>
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