[blparent] need urgent help

Tammy, Paul and Colyn tcl189 at rogers.com
Thu May 27 02:19:45 UTC 2010 

Hi,

You have your opinions and I have mine.

Tammy
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Elizabeth Cooks" <elizabethcooks at comcast.net>
To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: [blparent] need urgent help


> None of what we fight for is nonsense. Neither is anything we fight 
> against.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tammy, Paul and Colyn" <tcl189 at rogers.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 2:15 PM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] need urgent help
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I wish all states had this bill passed.  It seems a more sensible thing 
>> to fight for than a lot of the nonsense the nfb fights for and against!
>>
>> Tammy
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Deborah Kent Stein" <dkent5817 at att.net>
>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 3:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] need urgent help
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear Rebecca,
>>>
>>> In 2009 the NFB of Maryland helped get a bill passed in that state which 
>>> makes it illegal to use blindness as a reason to remove a child from its 
>>> parents' custody.  In other words, blindness alone cannot be used in 
>>> custody disputes around divorce or in cases brought to the attention of 
>>> CPS. Illinois is currently drafting a similar piece of legislation, and 
>>> I believe there are initiatives in other states as well.  One issue we 
>>> face is the difficulty getting information about discrimination cases 
>>> when they occur. Due to confidentiality concerns it is hard to gather 
>>> information. Many parents choose not to go public with their stories 
>>> because the whole experience is so traumatic and humiliating that they 
>>> want to put it behind them.
>>>
>>> Debbie
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 10:09 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] need urgent help
>>>
>>>
>>>> Sorry guys.
>>>> Elizabeth, I do have trouble understanding your posts, and was 
>>>> referring
>>>> to the putting the crib on lay away as being a bit rude, it doesn't 
>>>> help
>>>> them now. Plus lay away has its risks too, mainly that if the store 
>>>> goes
>>>> out of business, you loose the money.
>>>> I'm sorry too about your involvement with CPS which does bring up a
>>>> question of what if anything NFB is dong. Seems to me like this is
>>>> similar to the thing in the 1980's where blind people couldn't fly
>>>> alone. That problem got licked, the CPS one from what you guys are
>>>> saying hasn't. So, why not? Anybody ina leadership role care to 
>>>> explain?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:05 AM
>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] need urgent help
>>>>
>>>> Me neither. It still doesn't sound right to me.
>>>> And did you see Elizabeth's post saying her obgyn called CPS in? Again,
>>>> nobody is ever going to say on this list something isn't right. And I
>>>> can barely understand anything Elizabeth Cooks is trying to convey. She
>>>> comes off as abrasive and that's only when I *do* understand her. Not
>>>> sure if her husband is blind or not.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Robert Shelton
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2010 12:36 PM
>>>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] need urgent help
>>>>
>>>> OK, forget my last post about the family.  This makes the situation a
>>>> little
>>>> clearer, but I still don't understand why the family and parents would
>>>> hear
>>>> different information from CPS.
>>>>
>>>> "A strong nation, like a strong person, can afford to be gentle, firm,
>>>> thoughtful, and restrained. It can afford to extend a helping hand to
>>>> others. It is a weak nation, like a weak person, that must behave with
>>>> bluster and boasting and rashness and other signs of insecurity."
>>>> --Jimmy Carter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Pipi [mailto:blahblahblah0822 at gmail.com]
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:46 PM
>>>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] need urgent help
>>>>
>>>> Thank you I have added Scott to the list of resources I will be giving
>>>> the
>>>> mom in the morning.
>>>>>From what the mom has told me, she contacted the nurse because she
>>>> noticed
>>>> the baby having problems breathing while her first time breast feeding.
>>>> This
>>>>
>>>> nurse reported them. The social worker said they have concerns because
>>>> both
>>>> parents are blind. she asked questions like what would they do if baby
>>>> is
>>>> sick and how would they know if she had a fever. The mom answered  by
>>>> saying
>>>>
>>>> take a cab or ambulance depending on urgency to doctor or hospital. and
>>>> that
>>>>
>>>> there are talking thermomenters. the social worker said that she still
>>>> didn't think they had a plan and she didn't feel comfortable releasing
>>>> baby
>>>> to them unless they had 24/7 help for the first 2 weeks. This isn't an
>>>> option for them, so the last I heard from the mom around noon was that
>>>> their
>>>>
>>>> baby was being discharged into protective custody this afternoon.
>>>> If i had the means, I'd be there as this supposed 24/7 support that is
>>>> needed just so they could bring their baby home from the hospital like
>>>> they
>>>> should have been able to do.
>>>> Any help is greatly appreciated. And thank you everyone.
>>>> pipi
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>>>> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 1:36 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] need urgent help
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> They of course have rights, what state is she in and contact your NFB
>>>>> President in that state for help.  She should Scott LaBarre who is
>>>>> president of the Lawyer Division of the NFB for help.
>>>>>
>>>>> What reason are they giving these parents for wanting to take away
>>>> there
>>>>> children.
>>>>>
>>>>> President: Scott LaBarre
>>>>> 1660 South Albion Street, Suite 918
>>>>> Denver, Colorado 80222-4046
>>>>> Work: 303-504-5979
>>>>> Fax: 303-757-3640
>>>>> E-mail: slabarre at labarrelaw.com
>>>>> Cheryl Echevarria
>>>>> Independent Travel Consultant
>>>>> C10-10646
>>>>>
>>>>> http://Echevarriatravel.com
>>>>> 1-866-580-5574
>>>>>
>>>>> http://blog.echevarriatravel.com
>>>>> Reservations at echevarriatravel.com
>>>>> Affiliated as an Independent Contractor with Montrose Travel
>>>>> CST-1018299-10
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Pipi" <blahblahblah0822 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: <blindparenting at googlegroups.com>; <blv-moms at googlegroups.com>;
>>>>> <singleblindparents at googlegroups.com>; "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing
>>>> List"
>>>>
>>>>> <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 2:30 PM
>>>>> Subject: [blparent] need urgent help
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey y'all,
>>>>>> I have a friend who very recently gave birth. Her and her partner are
>>>>
>>>>>> both
>>>>>> blind. They are having problems with cps. I don't want to go into all
>>>> of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> details, but she is being told one thing by the social worker and the
>>>>
>>>>>> social
>>>>>> worker is telling her family other things. They are saying that
>>>> unless
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> have 24/7 help, their child will be released into protective custody.
>>>> Do
>>>>>> they have this right? What rights do the parents have? They are first
>>>>
>>>>>> time
>>>>>> parents and not sure what to do. They just want their baby home with
>>>>>> them.
>>>>>> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>> pipi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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