[blparent] Beware those sharp little eyes!

Wed Nov 9 20:33:44 UTC 2011

Well, I can see that point, I guess.  It's like when my mom stood in the 
doorway once and watched me hide the wrapper from a cupcake I wasn't 
supposed to have.  I felt tricked, not just upset because I got caught, but 
tricked because if I could see, I wouldn't have taken the wrapper out of my 
pocket and hidden it when someone was standing there.  Over the years, I got 
to where I can almost always tell when someone is nearby, trying to be very 
quiet.

Jo Elizabeth

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, 
compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of 
the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will have been all of 
these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American scientist

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From: "Marla Wertman" <marla.wertman at verizon.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 12:49 PM
To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Beware those sharp little eyes!

> I think as blind adults though we need to be careful about this.  I know
> it is just something as simple is buying a birthday present with blind
> child right there, and it's easy to get away with because they can't see
> it, but I see it is taking advantage of the fact that they can't see. To
> me that is close to lying.Maybe I'm not explaining this right, but my
> parents never did things like this to me.  I was treated just like my
> sighted brother, because they wanted me to grow up as normal is possible.
> On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:43:36 -0700
> "Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh, let me tell you that I was an observant little thing but my mom new 
>> just
>> the ways to distract me to keep my mind off what was going in the cart 
>> when
>> I was young enough.  It probably helped a ton that I have always been 
>> super
>> sociable and chatting with her and others in the store was way more fun 
>> than
>> items being pulled off the shelves.  Obviously this was easier than if I 
>> had
>> sight and could see exactly what was going into the cart.
>>
>> Erin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 12:25 PM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Beware those sharp little eyes!
>>
>> Thank you for this.
>> I may disagree with you that a child who is blind would be unaware of 
>> stuff
>> longer, that sure didn't work with me from what my parents tell me That 
>> may
>> depend on the child/person though, some of us just like to observe and 
>> pay
>> attention and there are many ways to do this without being obvious about 
>> it.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Erin Rumer
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:18 PM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Beware those sharp little eyes!
>>
>> Rebecca, I totally agree with what you're saying but please let me 
>> clarify
>> since we're talking about two different things.  I'm referring to parents
>> cutting corners with kids young enough to be totally unaware of what's 
>> going
>> on.  Naturally, this would last a little longer with a blind child 
>> because
>> the parent has the advantage of the kid not being able to see what's in 
>> the
>> cart.  I guess why it really didn't bother me was because I didn't know 
>> it
>> was happening since I was young enough and didn't find out that my folks
>> were doing this until I was much older.  My folks didn't do this with me 
>> as
>> an older child and I think that's where the difference lies.  It's like
>> getting something for your baby because they're a baby and don't know the
>> difference and no one would think any different about cutting that corner
>> and that's all I mean.  If you're old enough to be aware of it happening 
>> and
>> parents are still doing it then that is wrong for sure.  When it came to
>> wrapping the gifts my mom had me help her with wrapping everyone's gifts 
>> for
>> years before I even thought about my own gifts being placed into my own
>> little paws which was always a very special privilege that the other kids
>> didn't get.  When I was getting older and came across one that I felt 
>> might
>> be mine my mom would say, "You don't want to spoil your fun for Christmas 
>> do
>> you?" and I smiled sheepishly and continued wrapping since it was such a 
>> fun
>> thing to share with mom and didn't bother me.  If my mom saw at all that 
>> I
>> was bothered by this and felt taken advantage of then she would have 
>> stopped
>> for sure.  Every kid's different as we all know and some things bother 
>> one
>> that don't bother another and that's where it's important to be receptive
>> parents and treat each kid as an individuals.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Erin
>>
>> As far as kids finding gifts in hidden places goes, I'd just do what my
>> parents would do which was tell me that Santa can't store everything for 
>> all
>> the children in the world at the North Pole and so they have parents 
>> store
>> some gifts ahead of time to help him out.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 11:38 AM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Beware those sharp little eyes!
>>
>> It matters if it hurts the person who is having the corners cut.
>> I don't recall my parents doing this, they went to great lengths to keep
>> stuff a surprise which I do appreciate.
>> Cutting corners is say, skipping a bath or having PB&J for supper every 
>> now
>> and then.
>> Would you feel this way if somebody planned a party for you and said 
>> "f***
>> it, I didn't decorate because I knew you couldn't see it"? Or "I could 
>> have
>> gotten you a really neat kick with something you love on it, but since 
>> you
>> can't see it, I just picked one up at Giant?"
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Erin Rumer
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 1:07 PM
>> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Beware those sharp little eyes!
>>
>> My parents got my gifts with me there at the store as well and I've got 
>> to
>> say I don't blame them.  It's enough work to try and shop and organize
>> holiday details so why not cut corners where you can.  Heck, I'd do it if 
>> my
>> kid was blind! SMILING  My mom would even have me wrap some of my gifts 
>> if
>> they were in unidentifiable boxes which killed me and made me laugh all 
>> at
>> the same time.  With Dawson I'm going to take a trick from my 
>> mother-in-law
>> and wrap the gifts inside other things that are totally different shapes
>> from the actual gifts.  For example, taking a old blanket that's not 
>> being
>> used and wrapping something smaller inside of that or hiding a gift 
>> inside a
>> big ball of newspaper.  It doesn't have to be pretty, just has to do the
>> trick.
>>
>> Erin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Lisamaria Martinez
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 10:30 AM
>> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Beware those sharp little eyes!
>>
>> You know, my parents wrapped my gifts in front of me too. In fact, they'd
>> shop for them in front of me. I thought it was rude and totally unfair to 
>> do
>> that just because I couldn't see.
>>
>> LM
>>
>> On 11/9/11, Jo Elizabeth Pinto <jopinto at msn.com> wrote:
>> > Hi.  For any of you moms who have little ones starting to run around
>> > and get into things, I thought I'd warn you about something I just
>> > learned the hard way.  *Smile.*  They'll see everything, especially
>> > what you don't want them to, and they'll remember.  They're smarter
>> > than
>> we give them credit for.
>> >
>> > I bought Sarah the Little People school bus because she's really into
>> > buses and planes and the like right now.  The package came from Amazon
>> > while she was at preschool about a month ago, and I threw the boxes in
>> > the recycling bin and hid the toy at the top of my closet, thinking I
>> > was
>> pretty slick.
>> > Well, she saw part of a picture on one box sticking out of the bin.
>> > She asked about it, and I glossed over it.  We moved on, and I thought
>> > she'd forgotten about the bus.
>> >
>> > So this morning, I went to get a shirt from the closet, and Sarah
>> > wandered in behind me.  All at once, she started jumping up and down,
>> > saying, "I see it!  Up there!  The bus toy really is here!  I want
>> > that
>> bus toy!"
>> >
>> > I guess I didn't hide it well enough.  She saw the box peeking out
>> > from under a blanket on a high shelf and remembered the picture from
>> > the recycling bin.  She had a bit of a meltdown because she knew the
>> > toy was there, but I wouldn't get it off the shelf for her.  I
>> > couldn't really explain why, either.  Now Santa Claus can't bring that
>> > toy to her, either, because it'll blow his cover.  I'll have to give
>> > it to her from Mom and Dad, or maybe from her brother Stephen.
>> > Anyway, my point is, when I was a kid, my family could (and did) wrap
>> > my presents right in front of me.  But obviously, blind parents of
>> > sighted kids have to be very careful about these things.
>> >
>> > Jo Elizabeth
>> >
>> > "How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young,
>> > compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and
>> > tolerant of the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will
>> > have been all of these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943,
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