[blparent] Beware those sharp little eyes!

Marla Wertman marla.wertman at verizon.net
Wed Nov 9 20:55:04 UTC 2011


Your husband is a grown adult, coffee with or without caffeen is legal.
I find that a bit controling, but to each their own.  I would not be
happy as an adult if someone was putting something in to my food.
On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:31:21 -0700
"Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com> wrote:

> I think we need to be careful not to read too much into these kinds of
> things.  My parents could get away with certain things with my sighted
> siblings that they couldn't with me and my sighted siblings aren't bitter
> with them for that at all.  We were all treated equally but my parents were
> smart and new what things they could do with each of us as individuals.  For
> example, my sighted younger sister is not very observant so my mom new she
> could sneak veggies into the meatloaf right in front of her because she
> probably wouldn't even be paying attention.  With me however, I could smell
> the veggies from a mile away and new right away my mom was using them in the
> meat loaf which I loved, but you get the point.  Heck, there's things I do
> in front of my sighted husband that he's unaware of, like give him decaf
> coffee instead of the real stuff because I know it's better for him and he's
> addicted to having too much caffeine at night.  It's a win-win because he
> feels more awake since he thinks he got the leaded stuff and I know I'm
> helping his health.
> 
> Erin
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Marla Wertman
> Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 12:50 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Beware those sharp little eyes!
> 
> I think as blind adults though we need to be careful about this.  I know it
> is just something as simple is buying a birthday present with blind child
> right there, and it's easy to get away with because they can't see it, but I
> see it is taking advantage of the fact that they can't see. To me that is
> close to lying.Maybe I'm not explaining this right, but my parents never did
> things like this to me.  I was treated just like my sighted brother, because
> they wanted me to grow up as normal is possible.
> On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 12:43:36 -0700
> "Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Oh, let me tell you that I was an observant little thing but my mom 
> > new just the ways to distract me to keep my mind off what was going in 
> > the cart when I was young enough.  It probably helped a ton that I 
> > have always been super sociable and chatting with her and others in 
> > the store was way more fun than items being pulled off the shelves.  
> > Obviously this was easier than if I had sight and could see exactly what
> was going into the cart.
> > 
> > Erin
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> > On Behalf Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 12:25 PM
> > To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
> > Subject: Re: [blparent] Beware those sharp little eyes!
> > 
> > Thank you for this.
> > I may disagree with you that a child who is blind would be unaware of 
> > stuff longer, that sure didn't work with me from what my parents tell 
> > me That may depend on the child/person though, some of us just like to 
> > observe and pay attention and there are many ways to do this without being
> obvious about it.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> > On Behalf Of Erin Rumer
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:18 PM
> > To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
> > Subject: Re: [blparent] Beware those sharp little eyes!
> > 
> > Rebecca, I totally agree with what you're saying but please let me 
> > clarify since we're talking about two different things.  I'm referring 
> > to parents cutting corners with kids young enough to be totally 
> > unaware of what's going on.  Naturally, this would last a little 
> > longer with a blind child because the parent has the advantage of the 
> > kid not being able to see what's in the cart.  I guess why it really 
> > didn't bother me was because I didn't know it was happening since I 
> > was young enough and didn't find out that my folks were doing this 
> > until I was much older.  My folks didn't do this with me as an older 
> > child and I think that's where the difference lies.  It's like getting 
> > something for your baby because they're a baby and don't know the 
> > difference and no one would think any different about cutting that 
> > corner and that's all I mean.  If you're old enough to be aware of it 
> > happening and parents are still doing it then that is wrong for sure.  
> > When it came to wrapping the gifts my mom had me help her with 
> > wrapping everyone's gifts for years before I even thought about my own 
> > gifts being placed into my own little paws which was always a very 
> > special privilege that the other kids didn't get.  When I was getting 
> > older and came across one that I felt might be mine my mom would say, 
> > "You don't want to spoil your fun for Christmas do you?" and I smiled 
> > sheepishly and continued wrapping since it was such a fun thing to 
> > share with mom and didn't bother me.  If my mom saw at all that I was 
> > bothered by this and felt taken advantage of then she would have 
> > stopped for sure.  Every kid's different as we all know and some things
> bother one that don't bother another and that's where it's important to be
> receptive parents and treat each kid as an individuals.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Erin
> > 
> > As far as kids finding gifts in hidden places goes, I'd just do what 
> > my parents would do which was tell me that Santa can't store 
> > everything for all the children in the world at the North Pole and so 
> > they have parents store some gifts ahead of time to help him out.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> > On Behalf Of Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 11:38 AM
> > To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
> > Subject: Re: [blparent] Beware those sharp little eyes!
> > 
> > It matters if it hurts the person who is having the corners cut.
> > I don't recall my parents doing this, they went to great lengths to 
> > keep stuff a surprise which I do appreciate.
> > Cutting corners is say, skipping a bath or having PB&J for supper 
> > every now and then.
> > Would you feel this way if somebody planned a party for you and said 
> > "f*** it, I didn't decorate because I knew you couldn't see it"? Or "I 
> > could have gotten you a really neat kick with something you love on 
> > it, but since you can't see it, I just picked one up at Giant?"
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> > On Behalf Of Erin Rumer
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 1:07 PM
> > To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
> > Subject: Re: [blparent] Beware those sharp little eyes!
> > 
> > My parents got my gifts with me there at the store as well and I've 
> > got to say I don't blame them.  It's enough work to try and shop and 
> > organize holiday details so why not cut corners where you can.  Heck, 
> > I'd do it if my kid was blind! SMILING  My mom would even have me wrap 
> > some of my gifts if they were in unidentifiable boxes which killed me 
> > and made me laugh all at the same time.  With Dawson I'm going to take 
> > a trick from my mother-in-law and wrap the gifts inside other things 
> > that are totally different shapes from the actual gifts.  For example, 
> > taking a old blanket that's not being used and wrapping something 
> > smaller inside of that or hiding a gift inside a big ball of 
> > newspaper.  It doesn't have to be pretty, just has to do the trick.
> > 
> > Erin
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> > On Behalf Of Lisamaria Martinez
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2011 10:30 AM
> > To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [blparent] Beware those sharp little eyes!
> > 
> > You know, my parents wrapped my gifts in front of me too. In fact, 
> > they'd shop for them in front of me. I thought it was rude and totally 
> > unfair to do that just because I couldn't see.
> > 
> > LM
> > 
> > On 11/9/11, Jo Elizabeth Pinto <jopinto at msn.com> wrote:
> > > Hi.  For any of you moms who have little ones starting to run around 
> > > and get into things, I thought I'd warn you about something I just 
> > > learned the hard way.  *Smile.*  They'll see everything, especially 
> > > what you don't want them to, and they'll remember.  They're smarter 
> > > than
> > we give them credit for.
> > >
> > > I bought Sarah the Little People school bus because she's really 
> > > into buses and planes and the like right now.  The package came from 
> > > Amazon while she was at preschool about a month ago, and I threw the 
> > > boxes in the recycling bin and hid the toy at the top of my closet, 
> > > thinking I was
> > pretty slick.
> > > Well, she saw part of a picture on one box sticking out of the bin.
> > > She asked about it, and I glossed over it.  We moved on, and I 
> > > thought she'd forgotten about the bus.
> > >
> > > So this morning, I went to get a shirt from the closet, and Sarah 
> > > wandered in behind me.  All at once, she started jumping up and 
> > > down, saying, "I see it!  Up there!  The bus toy really is here!  I 
> > > want that
> > bus toy!"
> > >
> > > I guess I didn't hide it well enough.  She saw the box peeking out 
> > > from under a blanket on a high shelf and remembered the picture from 
> > > the recycling bin.  She had a bit of a meltdown because she knew the 
> > > toy was there, but I wouldn't get it off the shelf for her.  I 
> > > couldn't really explain why, either.  Now Santa Claus can't bring 
> > > that toy to her, either, because it'll blow his cover.  I'll have to 
> > > give it to her from Mom and Dad, or maybe from her brother Stephen.
> > > Anyway, my point is, when I was a kid, my family could (and did) 
> > > wrap my presents right in front of me.  But obviously, blind parents 
> > > of sighted kids have to be very careful about these things.
> > >
> > > Jo Elizabeth
> > >
> > > "How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, 
> > > compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and 
> > > tolerant of the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you 
> > > will have been all of these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, 
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