[blparent] safety at parks and playgrounds

Mon Apr 9 15:03:41 UTC 2012

        Maybe I'm missing something but wouldn't evidence of injury still exist? Just because "they" refused, doesn't mean you have to accept that answer.
It's your body and your history, you owe it to find out as much as you need to.

-----Original Message-----
From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tay Laurie
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 8:58 PM
To: Blind Parents Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blparent] safety at parks and playgrounds

Ouch, mine wasn't just l2, but they refuse to find out how many other
injuries I have.  I landed on my  feet, so there's no clue how bad it really
is. The reason I fell? Nobody told the school I had seizures and the five
person bellay team dropped me.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com>
To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 4:06 PM
Subject: Re: [blparent] safety at parks and playgrounds

> OOOOOOO, your injury sounds horrible as well.  I was probably about 8 feet
> in the air when the chain broke on the swing.
>
> Erin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Tay Laurie
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:21 AM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: [blparent] safety at parks and playgrounds
>
> Eight bones in your back? Ow ow ow ow ow ow! How high was that off the
> ground? When I hit the ground from my swing fall, I only skidded about ten
> or so feet and permanently messed up the skin on my palms. Now, when I
> took
> a twenty foot fall off of a rock wall, that was when I busted l2 and now
> because of broken hardware have a partial SCI.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com>
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] inflatable tub bumpers but now changing subject
> topark safety
>
>
>> Okay, this is an interesting topic but we need to change the subject
>> line because we've gotten far away from talking about tub bumpers.
>>
>> On the topic of safety at parks and such though there is a huge
>> difference between being an attentive and conscious parent and being a
>> helicopter parent.  It is one thing to do all we can as parents to
>> keep our children safe, be involved in what they're doing and try and
>> avoid unnecessary injury, and it's another thing to hover over them at
>> all moments and constantly intercede with each and everything they do.
>> Getting hurt is definitely part of being a kid and learning but it's a
>> balancing act of helping them learn and keeping them truly safe.  We
>> aren't going to let our toddler touch the stove to learn about hot
>> things but touching our hot coffee cup will teach them about hot
>> things without actually hurting them.
>> At parks it is very important to inspect the equipment before our kids
>> or we ourselves get on it because some parks maintain their equipment
>> better than others.  There a lot more injuries that happen every year
>> than you ever hear about and I'm an example of that.  I have always
>> loved parks and all the fun they provide but back in 2003 I was
>> swinging with my husband at a park on a beautiful spring day and one
>> of the chains of my swing was rusted through near the top and it
>> broke.  I fell onto the solid ground because the park didn't extend
>> the sand far enough and I broke eight bones in my back, rotated my
>> right hip and tore a ton of muscle in my right shoulder.  It's an
>> absolute miracle I didn't get a spinal cord injury.  My physical
>> therapist in the hospital told me that I was one out of three adult
>> patients in the hospital at that time he was treating for swing
>> related injuries.  Pretty stunning huh!!  We didn't want to sue at all
>> and I don't recommend for anyone to go through a suit unless they
>> truly have to but in this case the park district wouldn't take care of
>> my medical bills which is all I was asking for and the worst thing is
>> they weren't willing to take care of the equipment at the park.  Three
>> years later we won a suit against the park district and the equipment
>> was replaced and my bills were paid.  Our lawyer told us that a lot of
>> times these big dogs don't do anything until an actual suit is made
>> which is nuts but sometimes what has to happen.  It's such a waste of
>> time, money and energy for everyone involved.  Thank God today I just
>> deal with some chronic pane but nothing else from that horrible
>> accident.  I was worried that getting pregnant was going to make my
>> chronic pane much worse but praise the Lord I had a pretty pane free
>> pregnancy.
>>
>> Erin
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Tay Laurie
>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:14 AM
>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] inflatable tub bumpers
>>
>> That's another thing, the winning/losing. They don't want the kids to
>> experience losing. They don't want to trample on their self-esteem.
>> Pardon me, but I played plenty of win-lose games, still do, actually,
>> and it doesn't crush me if I lose. I don't think it crushes very many,
>> if any, kids if they win or lose, once they understand it's not the
>> end of the world.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Peggy" <pshald at neb.rr.com>
>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 6:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] inflatable tub bumpers
>>
>>
>>> Oh I think a lot of parents are over protective and also sue happy,
>>> as mentioned on this list.  A lot of the playground equipment is
>>> being taken down because it's a safety hazzard.  Games can't be
>>> played because of safety reasons or because someone wins or loses.
>>> We have a trampoline in our backyard and a couple summers ago our
>>> little neighbor boy fell off and broke his arm and I thought surely
>>> she'll sue but she didn't, she believes like I do, accidents happen
>>> and kids will get hurt.  They want them to have the physical
>>> activities because they're overweight but so many things are taken
>>> away, what are they
>> supposed to do?
>>>
>>> When Dylan started taking baths on his own, until he could sit up I
>>> took a bath with him.  I bought a seat that has suction cups and it's
>>> round that sits in the bottom of the tub, bath ring, I think they're
>>> called, he liked that and it worked well.  Before that I always
>>> bathed with my kids because once when my daughter was tiny she turned
>>> her head so quick when I went to get shampoo or something and almost
>>> drowned and that scared me so bad because they're so quick, I always
>>> bathed with them until they were old enough to sit up.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Kate McEachern
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:26 PM
>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] inflatable tub bumpers
>>>
>>> Its a millyen daller indestry to keep kids safe.  And the more
>>> products to keep kids safe, the more activities of childhood are lost.
>>> I've heard of parks not alowing slides, kids getting time out for
>>> running in a tot lot, and Ash once got sent home with a note because
>>> when she was saposed to stand still she was bouncing on her heals and
>>> according to the school this was a hazerd to all.  There's a fine
>>> line between what keeps kids safe and hellacopter parenting.  But I
>>> have seen some parents starting to relax if even just a bit.  Not
>>> saying kids shouldn't be wotched its just I know parents that I think
>>> forgot how to blink with their levels of vidgulence.
>>>
>>> Kate
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com>
>>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:08 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] inflatable tub bumpers
>>>
>>>
>>>> If a child is going to hit his head, I don't think it would be on
>>>> the inside of the tub.  Imagining the way a fall would go, the head
>>>> would be more likely to hit a flat or protruding surface, like the
>>>> flat edge of the tub, or the wall, or the faucet.  So I'd question
>>>> whether the bumpers would be necessary, especially since you
>>>> wouldn't want to leave a toddler in the tub for even a few seconds
>>>> by himself.  If the bumpers make you feel safer to have, then by all
> means, get them.
>>>> But I would guess that a bath mat or a towel to prevent falls would
>>>> do just as well.  Sometimes I think the baby industry really tries
>>>> to see how much money they can get new parents to spend.
>>>>
>>>> On a similar subject, I got one of those inflatable faucet covers at
>>>> my baby shower from the church, and I found the silly thing
>>>> downright useless. There was no way to secure it to the faucet, so
>>>> it was always falling off, or getting pulled off, and it spent more
>>>> time in the water than it ever did covering the spout.
>>>>
>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>>
>>>> "How far you go in life depends
>>>> on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged,
>>>> sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of the weak and the strong.
>>>> Because someday in life you will have been all of these."--George
>>>> Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American scientist
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:00 PM
>>>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] inflatable tub bumpers
>>>>
>>>>> I believe the bumpers go all the way around the three sides, not
>>>>> including the faucet side, so it wouldn't be easy for a toddler to
>>>>> remove in the way you're talking.  After the toddler years one
>>>>> wouldn't need this type of thing in the tub and that's when I could
>>>>> see older kids getting creative with the bumpers. GRIN
>>>>>
>>>>> Erin
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Kate McEachern
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 6:21 PM
>>>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] inflatable tub bumpers
>>>>>
>>>>> This just sounds like a bad idea. I have images of it being used as
>>>>> a flote.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kate
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NFB blind parent listserv" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 7:42 PM
>>>>> Subject: [blparent] inflatable tub bumpers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am considering getting those inflatable bumpers for the regular
>>>>>> tub that suction cup to the sides.  They come in Sesame Street and
>>>>>> other fun designs.
>>>>>> My only worry is that they might not stick like they should but
>>>>>> I'd love to put something on the tub walls to make the big tub a
>>>>>> safer place for our
>>>>>> 17
>>>>>> month old.  Have any of you used this product?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Erin
>>>>>>
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