[blparent] safety at parks and playgrounds

Mon Apr 9 15:13:05 UTC 2012

Well, it's been so long, and the records are very hard to get ahold of. And, 
honestly, no grounds for a lawsuit, so it wouldn't really do much good.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2012 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: [blparent] safety at parks and playgrounds


>        Maybe I'm missing something but wouldn't evidence of injury still 
> exist? Just because "they" refused, doesn't mean you have to accept that 
> answer.
> It's your body and your history, you owe it to find out as much as you 
> need to.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Tay Laurie
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 8:58 PM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] safety at parks and playgrounds
>
> Ouch, mine wasn't just l2, but they refuse to find out how many other
> injuries I have.  I landed on my  feet, so there's no clue how bad it 
> really
> is. The reason I fell? Nobody told the school I had seizures and the five
> person bellay team dropped me.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com>
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 4:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] safety at parks and playgrounds
>
>
>> OOOOOOO, your injury sounds horrible as well.  I was probably about 8 
>> feet
>> in the air when the chain broke on the swing.
>>
>> Erin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Tay Laurie
>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:21 AM
>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: [blparent] safety at parks and playgrounds
>>
>> Eight bones in your back? Ow ow ow ow ow ow! How high was that off the
>> ground? When I hit the ground from my swing fall, I only skidded about 
>> ten
>> or so feet and permanently messed up the skin on my palms. Now, when I
>> took
>> a twenty foot fall off of a rock wall, that was when I busted l2 and now
>> because of broken hardware have a partial SCI.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com>
>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:16 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] inflatable tub bumpers but now changing subject
>> topark safety
>>
>>
>>> Okay, this is an interesting topic but we need to change the subject
>>> line because we've gotten far away from talking about tub bumpers.
>>>
>>> On the topic of safety at parks and such though there is a huge
>>> difference between being an attentive and conscious parent and being a
>>> helicopter parent.  It is one thing to do all we can as parents to
>>> keep our children safe, be involved in what they're doing and try and
>>> avoid unnecessary injury, and it's another thing to hover over them at
>>> all moments and constantly intercede with each and everything they do.
>>> Getting hurt is definitely part of being a kid and learning but it's a
>>> balancing act of helping them learn and keeping them truly safe.  We
>>> aren't going to let our toddler touch the stove to learn about hot
>>> things but touching our hot coffee cup will teach them about hot
>>> things without actually hurting them.
>>> At parks it is very important to inspect the equipment before our kids
>>> or we ourselves get on it because some parks maintain their equipment
>>> better than others.  There a lot more injuries that happen every year
>>> than you ever hear about and I'm an example of that.  I have always
>>> loved parks and all the fun they provide but back in 2003 I was
>>> swinging with my husband at a park on a beautiful spring day and one
>>> of the chains of my swing was rusted through near the top and it
>>> broke.  I fell onto the solid ground because the park didn't extend
>>> the sand far enough and I broke eight bones in my back, rotated my
>>> right hip and tore a ton of muscle in my right shoulder.  It's an
>>> absolute miracle I didn't get a spinal cord injury.  My physical
>>> therapist in the hospital told me that I was one out of three adult
>>> patients in the hospital at that time he was treating for swing
>>> related injuries.  Pretty stunning huh!!  We didn't want to sue at all
>>> and I don't recommend for anyone to go through a suit unless they
>>> truly have to but in this case the park district wouldn't take care of
>>> my medical bills which is all I was asking for and the worst thing is
>>> they weren't willing to take care of the equipment at the park.  Three
>>> years later we won a suit against the park district and the equipment
>>> was replaced and my bills were paid.  Our lawyer told us that a lot of
>>> times these big dogs don't do anything until an actual suit is made
>>> which is nuts but sometimes what has to happen.  It's such a waste of
>>> time, money and energy for everyone involved.  Thank God today I just
>>> deal with some chronic pane but nothing else from that horrible
>>> accident.  I was worried that getting pregnant was going to make my
>>> chronic pane much worse but praise the Lord I had a pretty pane free
>>> pregnancy.
>>>
>>> Erin
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Tay Laurie
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 7:14 AM
>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] inflatable tub bumpers
>>>
>>> That's another thing, the winning/losing. They don't want the kids to
>>> experience losing. They don't want to trample on their self-esteem.
>>> Pardon me, but I played plenty of win-lose games, still do, actually,
>>> and it doesn't crush me if I lose. I don't think it crushes very many,
>>> if any, kids if they win or lose, once they understand it's not the
>>> end of the world.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Peggy" <pshald at neb.rr.com>
>>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 6:52 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] inflatable tub bumpers
>>>
>>>
>>>> Oh I think a lot of parents are over protective and also sue happy,
>>>> as mentioned on this list.  A lot of the playground equipment is
>>>> being taken down because it's a safety hazzard.  Games can't be
>>>> played because of safety reasons or because someone wins or loses.
>>>> We have a trampoline in our backyard and a couple summers ago our
>>>> little neighbor boy fell off and broke his arm and I thought surely
>>>> she'll sue but she didn't, she believes like I do, accidents happen
>>>> and kids will get hurt.  They want them to have the physical
>>>> activities because they're overweight but so many things are taken
>>>> away, what are they
>>> supposed to do?
>>>>
>>>> When Dylan started taking baths on his own, until he could sit up I
>>>> took a bath with him.  I bought a seat that has suction cups and it's
>>>> round that sits in the bottom of the tub, bath ring, I think they're
>>>> called, he liked that and it worked well.  Before that I always
>>>> bathed with my kids because once when my daughter was tiny she turned
>>>> her head so quick when I went to get shampoo or something and almost
>>>> drowned and that scared me so bad because they're so quick, I always
>>>> bathed with them until they were old enough to sit up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Kate McEachern
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 9:26 PM
>>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] inflatable tub bumpers
>>>>
>>>> Its a millyen daller indestry to keep kids safe.  And the more
>>>> products to keep kids safe, the more activities of childhood are lost.
>>>> I've heard of parks not alowing slides, kids getting time out for
>>>> running in a tot lot, and Ash once got sent home with a note because
>>>> when she was saposed to stand still she was bouncing on her heals and
>>>> according to the school this was a hazerd to all.  There's a fine
>>>> line between what keeps kids safe and hellacopter parenting.  But I
>>>> have seen some parents starting to relax if even just a bit.  Not
>>>> saying kids shouldn't be wotched its just I know parents that I think
>>>> forgot how to blink with their levels of vidgulence.
>>>>
>>>> Kate
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com>
>>>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 10:08 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] inflatable tub bumpers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> If a child is going to hit his head, I don't think it would be on
>>>>> the inside of the tub.  Imagining the way a fall would go, the head
>>>>> would be more likely to hit a flat or protruding surface, like the
>>>>> flat edge of the tub, or the wall, or the faucet.  So I'd question
>>>>> whether the bumpers would be necessary, especially since you
>>>>> wouldn't want to leave a toddler in the tub for even a few seconds
>>>>> by himself.  If the bumpers make you feel safer to have, then by all
>> means, get them.
>>>>> But I would guess that a bath mat or a towel to prevent falls would
>>>>> do just as well.  Sometimes I think the baby industry really tries
>>>>> to see how much money they can get new parents to spend.
>>>>>
>>>>> On a similar subject, I got one of those inflatable faucet covers at
>>>>> my baby shower from the church, and I found the silly thing
>>>>> downright useless. There was no way to secure it to the faucet, so
>>>>> it was always falling off, or getting pulled off, and it spent more
>>>>> time in the water than it ever did covering the spout.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>>>
>>>>> "How far you go in life depends
>>>>> on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged,
>>>>> sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of the weak and the 
>>>>> strong.
>>>>> Because someday in life you will have been all of these."--George
>>>>> Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American scientist
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 8:00 PM
>>>>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] inflatable tub bumpers
>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe the bumpers go all the way around the three sides, not
>>>>>> including the faucet side, so it wouldn't be easy for a toddler to
>>>>>> remove in the way you're talking.  After the toddler years one
>>>>>> wouldn't need this type of thing in the tub and that's when I could
>>>>>> see older kids getting creative with the bumpers. GRIN
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Erin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Kate McEachern
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 6:21 PM
>>>>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] inflatable tub bumpers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This just sounds like a bad idea. I have images of it being used as
>>>>>> a flote.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kate
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NFB blind parent listserv" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 7:42 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [blparent] inflatable tub bumpers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello list,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am considering getting those inflatable bumpers for the regular
>>>>>>> tub that suction cup to the sides.  They come in Sesame Street and
>>>>>>> other fun designs.
>>>>>>> My only worry is that they might not stick like they should but
>>>>>>> I'd love to put something on the tub walls to make the big tub a
>>>>>>> safer place for our
>>>>>>> 17
>>>>>>> month old.  Have any of you used this product?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Erin
>>>>>>>
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