[blparent] punishment

Wed Feb 1 16:54:23 UTC 2012

I hear you loud and clear.  And Dave, we have to go through the mood swings
that start occurring at this age. (11/12)

-----Original Message-----
From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Gabe Vega
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 8:45 PM
To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blparent] punishment

I got to agree, we all go through it, I got a 6 year old son next month and
we deal with the same school issues his mother and I, she's my neighbor so I
am still heavily involved wth his raising and his schooling. and my 11 year
old daughter who I raise on my own still has issues from time to time with
listening.

when you are going through it though, it sure feels like you are alone in
the world. 
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On Jan 31, 2012, at 8:38 PM, Tammy wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I completely agree with this message.  I don't think spanking is an
appropriate punishment for everything, especially if it doesn't work or has
stopped working.  You need to find out what your son really likes, and use
that as punishment.  My son likes to stay up at night on week-ends but if
he's bad he doesn't get to stay up.  During the week if he's bad he looses
his tv or goes to bed right after supper which means before his brother and
that annoys him.  I also think talking to the school is a very good idea.  I
think meds are a last resort but a resort nonetheless.  I hope you find
comfort in the fact that you're not the only one who has these problems.
This age is a very tough age for children, and parents alike.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> Tammy
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Veronica Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 10:27 PM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blparent] punishment
> 
> Nikki, what is he substituting for the Wii.  It will get boring doing
nothing but sitting.  It works for other children, but tough love is usually
what it takes.  You could turn to meds, they settle children down, but at
what expense.  Some of those kids walk around like zombies because they are
doped up.  Spanking is reserved here for serious crimes like darting into
the traffic breaking items that could possibly be harmful.
> Sometimes, just sometimes, if you show that it is okay to hit (spank) then
a child thinks it's okay to hit.
> I do recommend talking to the school counselor and see what they 
> recommend for changing this behavior. V
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of Nikki
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 7:39 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] punishment
> 
>   Taking things away from him isn't solving the problem. He likes Mario
Kart Wii a lot. He hasn't been able to play it since the stream of yellows
and few reds. It hasn't been doing much since the behavior continues. The
punishment is that if he brings home a yellow or red, no Wii. If he gets a
yellow or red on a Friday, that means the whole weekend without the Wii,
computer playing, or playing with his train.
> 
> He has been confined to his room before, but that doesn't seem to work.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Veronica Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 5:18 PM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blparent] punishment
> 
> The only way is restricting him from the things he likes and if that 
> means you have to hear him scream or throw a huge tantrum for x amount 
> of time, then be it.  My husband used to put Gab in her room when 
> she'd do what she wanted and she would scream and scream and we told 
> her she could come out when she could control herself and do as she 
> was told.  Sometimes it took a few minutes, sometimes a few hours and 
> then the next time she acted up, back into the room she went.  I know 
> that professionals say not to use their rooms as a place of 
> punishment, but that is what I did, some peeps use a rug and others 
> use a chair, but you use what works. V
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of Nikki
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 11:12 PM
> To: NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] punishment
> 
>   IDK if I could do that. I don't think he's angry with me. It has more to
do with him not listening and doing what he's told. Sunday, he and papa went
for a walk in the woods. As they were walking back to the car, my dad told
him not to pick up any snow because he didn't want his gloves to be all wet
when they got in the car. You know what? That little defiant brat did it
anyway. He doesn't listen. Two weeks ago, he got a detention for not
listening to the lunchtime supervisor and just continued playing, ignoring
the call to come line up. As far as last week and today, I don't know why he
pushed another kid, except today, he played freeze tag even after he was
told not to. So, I'm just wondering how to fix this "not listening,
ignoring, and not doing what told to do" business.
> 
> It seems his answer for everything is "I don't know." I'm ready to wash
his mouth out every time he says that. Because I know he knows.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Veronica Smith
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 11:20 PM
> To: 'NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blparent] punishment
> 
> Nikki, can you attend his class for a day or so.  Tell him that mommy 
> is going to check up on him and then stick to your words.  It might be 
> today or
> 2 days later, but perhaps you need to see what the class is doing and 
> why he is acting up.
> Is he angry at you for something?  Sometimes a child will take it out 
> on someone his own size to (in his mind) is punishing you.
> Maybe the teacher is only seeing the hitting or pushing, but not 
> seeing the whole reason for the behavior.  Perhaps, your son is  defending
himself.
> You know, there is always 2 sides to every story.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
> On Behalf Of Nikki
> Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 3:02 PM
> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blparent] punishment
> 
> Hi all. Yes I'm back again. How would you discipline a six year old 
> boy who doesn't listen and do what he's told? I haven't figured out 
> what will change his behavior. He pushed another child, in school 
> today and Friday. He lied to me last night by saying he'll be good 
> today. We even had him saying "I know I can, I know I can, said the 
> engine that did." I'm out of my witts end. The past few weeks have been
horrible. I can't understand why.
> 
> The teacher uses a sliding scale for the behavior. You come to class, 
> you start with an orange. Your behavior throughout  the day determines 
> the outcome. So you can either do great and get a green card, but you 
> can slide back to orange, which is a "ready to work" day. Ah, but 
> there's the possible yellow, which is a "behavior needs to be worked 
> on"." You could go to red, which is the worst. I almost forgot, after 
> the green is blue, "the best behavior, you're like a role model." One 
> thing, if you get a red or blue, that's it. You can't slide off.
> 
> Now, my son has been bringing home yellows and the past two days 
> including today, were red. I've made the decision to take all of his 
> toys out of his room, including stuffed animals and having him go to 
> his room after school until he fixes his behavior. For each day he 
> brings home a good report and I'm not just talking an orange, I will give
him one toy back.
> 
> I'm tired of spanking him. It doesn't seem to work for me. What do you 
> think?
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