[blparent] Where to purchase soothers

[Jo Elizabeth Pinto]

A friend of mine had a soother called Ocean Wonders Aquarium by Fisher 
Price, which I borrowed and liked a lot.  The picture on the screen had fish 
and sea creatures, and there were nice water sounds.  The music was a little 
annoying and repetitive, and the thing tended to eat batteries, but aside 
from that, it was nice.

Jo Elizabeth

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, 
compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of 
the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will have been all of 
these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American scientist

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From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 3:08 PM
To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blparent] Where to purchase soothers

> Erin,
>
> This sounds interesting. Do you have any brands to suggest, and info on
> where to buy these products? I'd appreciate it.
>
> Sincerely,
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Read my blog at:
> http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>
> "History is not what happened; history is what was written down."
> The Expected One- Kathleen McGowan
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 22:52:53 -0700
> From: "Tay Laurie" <j.t.laurie at gmail.com>
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Explaining vision loss to children
> Message-ID: <96F32579247D4FAD85E595518401EECD at user86d09ba0cd>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
>
> Well, everoyne here at the apt complex thinks it's "cute" how my husband
> and
> I are able to manage fairly well, even when navigating. Because I have
> the
> most sight out of both of us, he gives me his longest cane, and then he
> pushes my wheelchair down the hall, sidewalk, etc. Granted, on
> unfamiliar
> paths we run into snags such as unexpected hills, ruts, and dropoffs,
> but
> that's ok. Or, how if I'm asking him to find something, I can give him a
>
> general "this is where it is" or, when he's handing me something, I snap
> my
> fingers or pat or knock the desk where I want it put. He does the same
> thing. I sometimes forget he's blind until I nod  or shrug and he's not
> sure
> I heard me, or I kid and use facial expressions to convey it. I used to
> have
> sight, so for me it's a rather odd cross.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:19:54 -0600
> From: Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blparent] Thinking about the future
> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP421A79AB96D596F8C2410CDC46C0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> We had my sister live with us for a year when she was 17, and let me
> tell you, I'm tempted to send my kids away once they become teens. LOL
> It was quite the experience. Not that all teens are like this, but we
> had to deal with random friends coming over, coming in at all hours
> despite giving her a liberal curfew and even sneaking out one night, at
> least one night I know of. Obviously with my own children I will have
> the opportunity to instill my own values and ideas, but kids will be
> kids, and they will turn out the way they turn out. Yeah, a little
> scary.
>
> Sincerely,
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Read my blog at: http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>
> "History is not what happened; history is what was written down." The
> Expected One- Kathleen McGowan
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 02:55:59 -0700
> From: Vanessa and violet vega <babybuffalovanessuevega at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Thinking about the future
> Message-ID: <d6fc36df-34d8-4737-ab58-1200f9c202b8 at email.android.com>
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>
> It sounds scary that is why i i dont think of it much.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:26:52 -0600
> From: Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blparent] Blind babies and mobiles
> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP32968F2FFA26F1CAB246F7FC46C0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Sure, why not? If they play music, a blind baby could still enjoy the
> sounds. And if the whirring sound of the mechanics were loud enough, it
> may help the baby sleep.
>
> Sincerely,
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Read my blog at: http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>
> "History is not what happened; history is what was written down." The
> Expected One- Kathleen McGowan
>
> Message: 27
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:21:02 +0000
> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List' <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Explaining vision loss to children
> Message-ID: <AAE38548E198F64B8E345439B68CCC7832F98D4B at TSEAMB02>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Now I'm wondering if babies who are blind get mobiles??
> Anybody know?
> I remember my daughter being very frustrated when her mobile would run
> down after a few minutes because she was looking at it.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:34:25 -0600
> From: Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP3967580F9BC67DA5EEEAC8AC46C0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> I completely agree with what you say here, and it back-ups what I
> posted. I believe people learn best from us when we show through actions
> rather than words, though words are important as well. Can it be
> tiresome at times, sure, but if we stop "educating" society, nothing
> changes. We live our lives, go about our business, and by doing this, we
> show the world what blind people can do.
>
> Sincerely,
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Read my blog at: http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>
> "History is not what happened; history is what was written down." The
> Expected One- Kathleen McGowan
>
> Message: 37
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 09:46:18 -0700
> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Taking advantage of parenting classes
> Message-ID: <007b01ccf7ca$d39fa010$7adee030$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Bridget, we live each day learning and educating.  Each day we step out
> of our home, we educate the public of what we can or cannot do as a
> blind individual. Each and every time I walk my daughter to the corner,
> I am educating others of how I use my cane, how I don't fall into cracks
> along the edge of the road or how I know when to cross.  I am educating
> them on how I, a blind mom, keeps my child safe. On the otherhand I am
> learning each and everytime I take a step, whether it is in my own home
> or out in public.  I am learning what to do when the dog darts  in front
> of me, I am learning how to solve problems that might arise during a
> given minut.  I am learning when I walk out the door. It is crazy for
> anyone to say, that educating and learning is not important.
>
> Educating/learning, whether in a classroom, online or experiencing life
> is necessary. Some of the things we learn, should be common sense, but
> what is that?  An idea of what should be, some of us, just don't think
> that way.  We need someone to put the idea, the flame on the candle to
> start it burning. Sorry about that. I just hate when peeps say that we
> shouldn'tlearn and are tired of educating others. V
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:34:38 -0500
> From: "Samara Raine" <samararaine at gmail.com>
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Thinking about the future
> Message-ID: <EAAB5E95B77F4F058416B0E5CE3A99E7 at delljl5li312a0>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> All I can say is I hope that if I have a daughter, she doesn't turn out
> like
> me. At least, what I was like as a teenager. Granted, there were
> horrific
> circumstances surrounding my teen years, but man was I difficult.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- Samara
>
>
> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 1:19 PM
> Subject: [blparent] Thinking about the future
>
>
>> We had my sister live with us for a year when she was 17, and let me
>> tell you, I'm tempted to send my kids away once they become teens. LOL
>
>> It was quite the experience. Not that all teens are like this, but we
>> had to deal with random friends coming over, coming in at all hours
>> despite giving her a liberal curfew and even sneaking out one night,
>> at least one night I know of. Obviously with my own children I will
>> have the opportunity to instill my own values and ideas, but kids will
>
>> be kids, and they will turn out the way they turn out. Yeah, a little
>> scary.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>> Read my blog at: http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>>
>> "History is not what happened; history is what was written down." The
>> Expected One- Kathleen McGowan
>>
>> Message: 23
>> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 02:55:59 -0700
>> From: Vanessa and violet vega <babybuffalovanessuevega at gmail.com>
>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Thinking about the future
>> Message-ID: <d6fc36df-34d8-4737-ab58-1200f9c202b8 at email.android.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> It sounds scary that is why i i dont think of it much.
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 11:34:50 -0700
> From: "Tay Laurie" <j.t.laurie at gmail.com>
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Blind babies and mobiles
> Message-ID: <ABE39576171B43AAA36387CDA9A04E4A at user86d09ba0cd>
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>
> I use a white noise machine set to the   hearrrrtbeat..... Sometimes it
> helps with my anxiety, don't know why. But mobiles are cute, anyway.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:26 AM
> Subject: [blparent] Blind babies and mobiles
>
>
>> Sure, why not? If they play music, a blind baby could still enjoy the
>> sounds. And if the whirring sound of the mechanics were loud enough,
>> it may help the baby sleep.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>> Read my blog at: http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>>
>> "History is not what happened; history is what was written down." The
>> Expected One- Kathleen McGowan
>>
>> Message: 27
>> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:21:02 +0000
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List' <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Explaining vision loss to children
>> Message-ID: <AAE38548E198F64B8E345439B68CCC7832F98D4B at TSEAMB02>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Now I'm wondering if babies who are blind get mobiles?? Anybody know?
>> I remember my daughter being very frustrated when her mobile would run
>> down after a few minutes because she was looking at it.
>>
>>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:37:59 -0600
> From: Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blparent] Stroller edicket  for blind couples
> Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP4208C36D0DA9B62D1B8BE8CC46C0 at phx.gbl>
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>
> Chris,
>
> You pull the stroller behind you. They now make strollers with flip
> handles so the stroller, and baby, are still facing you, and you can
> hold onto the handle while pulling it. It's pretty simple, and my
> husband and I go out and about a lot and haven't had problems with this
> method.
>
> Sincerely,
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Read my blog at:
> http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>
> "History is not what happened; history is what was written down."
> The Expected One- Kathleen McGowan
>
> Message: 39
> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:16:58 -0500
> From: Chris R <chrisr at myfairpoint.net>
> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blparent] stroller edicket for blind couples
> Message-ID: d23d94d2-e413-4493-8005-f8188f7cc228 at samobile.net
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
>
> Hello all:
> My name is christopher Reagan and my partner have a question about how
> to handle a stroller if we both need to go somewhere and need to take
> the baby out.  I know that they eventually grow out of the pouches and
> packs for babies so I'd like to know how blind couples handle strollers
> with canes and guide dogs?
> thanks and take care
> Chris Reagan
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 11:55:56 -0700
> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com>
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Explaining vision loss to children
> Message-ID: <SNT116-DS13B288BD8CF856FC09167CAC6C0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
>
> I think I had a bird that made noise.  But nobody knew I was blind till
> I
> was five or six months old and not reaching for things.  So I might have
>
> been given a regular mobile.  I was in an incubator till I was a few
> months
> old.
>
> Jo Elizabeth
>
> "How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young,
> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant
> of
> the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will have been all
> of
> these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American scientist
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Tay Laurie" <j.t.laurie at gmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:47 AM
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Explaining vision loss to children
>
>> I had one in the hospital for my surgeries, when I was about three or
>> four, but they lowered it down where I could touch it.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 7:21 AM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Explaining vision loss to children
>>
>>
>>> Now I'm wondering if babies who are blind get mobiles??
>>> Anybody know?
>>> I remember my daughter being very frustrated when her mobile would
> run
>>> down after a few minutes because she was looking at it.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Sheila Leigland
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 12:38 AM
>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Explaining vision loss to children
>>>
>>> Wow that is a really interesting story and I can see why you would be
>
>>> jealous knowing what you believed.
>>>
>>> Sheila Leigland
>>>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:58:12 -0500
> From: "Samara Raine" <samararaine at gmail.com>
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Stroller edicket  for blind couples
> Message-ID: <0751DFEA70384FB9BC9AEBC7775CFA57 at delljl5li312a0>
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>
> Bridgit, I'm sorry to head back into a discussion I'm pretty sure was
> just
> recently had, but which flip-handle stroller do you use?
>
> Sam
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 1:37 PM
> Subject: [blparent] Stroller edicket for blind couples
>
>
>> Chris,
>>
>> You pull the stroller behind you. They now make strollers with flip
>> handles so the stroller, and baby, are still facing you, and you can
>> hold onto the handle while pulling it. It's pretty simple, and my
>> husband and I go out and about a lot and haven't had problems with
> this
>> method.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>> Read my blog at:
>> http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>>
>> "History is not what happened; history is what was written down."
>> The Expected One- Kathleen McGowan
>>
>> Message: 39
>> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:16:58 -0500
>> From: Chris R <chrisr at myfairpoint.net>
>> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [blparent] stroller edicket for blind couples
>> Message-ID: d23d94d2-e413-4493-8005-f8188f7cc228 at samobile.net
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
>>
>> Hello all:
>> My name is christopher Reagan and my partner have a question about how
>> to handle a stroller if we both need to go somewhere and need to take
>> the baby out.  I know that they eventually grow out of the pouches and
>> packs for babies so I'd like to know how blind couples handle
> strollers
>> with canes and guide dogs?
>> thanks and take care
>> Chris Reagan
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> blparent mailing list
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:06:44 -0700
> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com>
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
> Message-ID: <SNT116-DS8BAC73FC74CED49C0FE18AC6C0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Well, apparently we have a long way to go.  Sorry for the sour grapes,
> but
> I'm really exasperated.  I took cupcakes to my daughter's preschool for
> her
> fourth birthday this morning.  Besides the fact that I had to reject the
>
> cupcakes I had ordered and scramble at the last minute to get some from
> another store because the first store had peanut oil in theirs, even
> though
> I had asked them twice if they used any peanut products and they said
> no--but that's another story--I won't ever shop the Target bakery again.
>
> But anyway, we got to the school, and Sarah was proudly showing me "all
> the
> beautiful things" in her classroom, those were her words, like the toy
> kitchen and the library and the carpet where you had to sit if you
> didn't
> behave.  She introduced me to a couple of the kids, and then she went up
> to
> the teacher's aide and said, "Miss Laurie, this is my mom."  And Miss
> Laurie
> said, "No, honey, that must be your aunt or something."  Sarah
> reaffirmed
> that I was indeed her mom, and Miss Laurie said, "But you can't see."  I
>
> wanted to tell her that when it came right down to babymaking, my eyes
> didn't have a whole hell of a lot to do with it.  But there were kids
> around, so I just said, "No, I can't.  That's why I have a white cane."
> Grrrr!
>
> Jo Elizabeth
>
> "How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young,
> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant
> of
> the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will have been all
> of
> these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American scientist
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:34 AM
> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
>
>> I completely agree with what you say here, and it back-ups what I
>> posted. I believe people learn best from us when we show through
> actions
>> rather than words, though words are important as well. Can it be
>> tiresome at times, sure, but if we stop "educating" society, nothing
>> changes. We live our lives, go about our business, and by doing this,
> we
>> show the world what blind people can do.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>> Read my blog at:
>> http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>>
>> "History is not what happened; history is what was written down."
>> The Expected One- Kathleen McGowan
>>
>> Message: 37
>> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 09:46:18 -0700
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Taking advantage of parenting classes
>> Message-ID: <007b01ccf7ca$d39fa010$7adee030$@net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Bridget, we live each day learning and educating.  Each day we step
> out
>> of our home, we educate the public of what we can or cannot do as a
>> blind individual. Each and every time I walk my daughter to the
> corner,
>> I am educating others of how I use my cane, how I don't fall into
> cracks
>> along the edge of the road or how I know when to cross.  I am
> educating
>> them on how I, a blind mom, keeps my child safe. On the otherhand I am
>> learning each and everytime I take a step, whether it is in my own
> home
>> or out in public.  I am learning what to do when the dog darts  in
> front
>> of me, I am learning how to solve problems that might arise during a
>> given minut.  I am learning when I walk out the door. It is crazy for
>> anyone to say, that educating and learning is not important.
>>
>> Educating/learning, whether in a classroom, online or experiencing
> life
>> is necessary. Some of the things we learn, should be common sense, but
>> what is that?  An idea of what should be, some of us, just don't think
>> that way.  We need someone to put the idea, the flame on the candle to
>> start it burning. Sorry about that. I just hate when peeps say that we
>> shouldn'tlearn and are tired of educating others. V
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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>
> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:10:24 -0700
> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com>
> To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blparent] When Our Kids Do Us Proud
> Message-ID: <SNT116-DS2485B112AFAABEFD595F99AC6C0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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> Hi.  We've had a lot of discussions on this list about behavior we don't
> want in our kids, but once in a while they really shine.  I was so proud
> of Sarah last night, I just had to brag.  We were at a Village Inn
> restaurant where we go often, and we know one of the waitresses whose
> name is Jenny.  Sarah told Jenny it was her birthday, and then invited
> her to the party we're having on Sunday.  Jenny said she would love to
> come but she had to work that day.  Sarah thought about it for a second
> and then said, "Um, excuse me?  Jenny?  Why don't you take my pie home
> then, since you can't come to the party?"  She'd just gotten a piece of
> her favorite lemon pie.  I was floored.  I told her how nice that was of
> her to offer, and so did Jenny.  Parenting can sometimes be hard, and
> sometimes tedious from day to day, but Dad and I must be doing something
> right!
>
> Jo Elizabeth
>
> "How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young,
> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant
> of the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will have been
> all of these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American scientist
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:33:33 -0800
> From: Lisamaria Martinez <lmartinez217 at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
> Message-ID:
>
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I think this is why this list is so great. We all understand how we
> are educating the public every time we step outside our door. However,
> I'm sure we also understand that the burden of educating every day,
> all the time, gets tiring, and sometimes, we just have to stop being
> worried about being educators and just be okay with being human.
>
> I've had my days when I snapped at the person who tried to put my
> son's shoes on for me because he kicked them off for the umteenth time
> and I didn't see it happen. I've also had my days where I've just
> smiled at the person who sat down next to me on BART and said that I
> was such a strong woman for being a blind mom. Sometimes, I follow
> that smile up with a joke about how I'm not any different than any
> other working mom or how stay-at-home moms are even braver than I
> because they have their child 24-7.
>
> Anyhow, life is but a stage and we are all actors ... but even actors
> get to have intermission.
>
> On 3/1/12, Jo Elizabeth Pinto <jopinto at msn.com> wrote:
>> Well, apparently we have a long way to go.  Sorry for the sour grapes,
> but
>> I'm really exasperated.  I took cupcakes to my daughter's preschool
> for her
>> fourth birthday this morning.  Besides the fact that I had to reject
> the
>> cupcakes I had ordered and scramble at the last minute to get some
> from
>> another store because the first store had peanut oil in theirs, even
> though
>> I had asked them twice if they used any peanut products and they said
>> no--but that's another story--I won't ever shop the Target bakery
> again.
>> But anyway, we got to the school, and Sarah was proudly showing me
> "all the
>> beautiful things" in her classroom, those were her words, like the toy
>> kitchen and the library and the carpet where you had to sit if you
> didn't
>> behave.  She introduced me to a couple of the kids, and then she went
> up to
>> the teacher's aide and said, "Miss Laurie, this is my mom."  And Miss
> Laurie
>> said, "No, honey, that must be your aunt or something."  Sarah
> reaffirmed
>> that I was indeed her mom, and Miss Laurie said, "But you can't see."
> I
>> wanted to tell her that when it came right down to babymaking, my eyes
>> didn't have a whole hell of a lot to do with it.  But there were kids
>> around, so I just said, "No, I can't.  That's why I have a white
> cane."
>> Grrrr!
>>
>> Jo Elizabeth
>>
>> "How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young,
>> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and
> tolerant of
>> the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will have been
> all of
>> these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American scientist
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:34 AM
>> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
>>
>>> I completely agree with what you say here, and it back-ups what I
>>> posted. I believe people learn best from us when we show through
> actions
>>> rather than words, though words are important as well. Can it be
>>> tiresome at times, sure, but if we stop "educating" society, nothing
>>> changes. We live our lives, go about our business, and by doing this,
> we
>>> show the world what blind people can do.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>>> Read my blog at:
>>> http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>>>
>>> "History is not what happened; history is what was written down."
>>> The Expected One- Kathleen McGowan
>>>
>>> Message: 37
>>> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 09:46:18 -0700
>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Taking advantage of parenting classes
>>> Message-ID: <007b01ccf7ca$d39fa010$7adee030$@net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Bridget, we live each day learning and educating.  Each day we step
> out
>>> of our home, we educate the public of what we can or cannot do as a
>>> blind individual. Each and every time I walk my daughter to the
> corner,
>>> I am educating others of how I use my cane, how I don't fall into
> cracks
>>> along the edge of the road or how I know when to cross.  I am
> educating
>>> them on how I, a blind mom, keeps my child safe. On the otherhand I
> am
>>> learning each and everytime I take a step, whether it is in my own
> home
>>> or out in public.  I am learning what to do when the dog darts  in
> front
>>> of me, I am learning how to solve problems that might arise during a
>>> given minut.  I am learning when I walk out the door. It is crazy for
>>> anyone to say, that educating and learning is not important.
>>>
>>> Educating/learning, whether in a classroom, online or experiencing
> life
>>> is necessary. Some of the things we learn, should be common sense,
> but
>>> what is that?  An idea of what should be, some of us, just don't
> think
>>> that way.  We need someone to put the idea, the flame on the candle
> to
>>> start it burning. Sorry about that. I just hate when peeps say that
> we
>>> shouldn'tlearn and are tired of educating others. V
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blparent mailing list
>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
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>>> blparent:
>>>
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>>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:56:57 -0800
> From: Lisamaria Martinez <lmartinez217 at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
> Message-ID:
>
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On 3/1/12, Lisamaria Martinez <lmartinez217 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> I think this is why this list is so great. We all understand how we
>> are educating the public every time we step outside our door. However,
>> I'm sure we also understand that the burden of educating every day,
>> all the time, gets tiring, and sometimes, we just have to stop being
>> worried about being educators and just be okay with being human.
>>
>> I've had my days when I snapped at the person who tried to put my
>> son's shoes on for me because he kicked them off for the umteenth time
>> and I didn't see it happen. I've also had my days where I've just
>> smiled at the person who sat down next to me on BART and said that I
>> was such a strong woman for being a blind mom. Sometimes, I follow
>> that smile up with a joke about how I'm not any different than any
>> other working mom or how stay-at-home moms are even braver than I
>> because they have their child 24-7.
>>
>> Anyhow, life is but a stage and we are all actors ... but even actors
>> get to have intermission.
>>
>> On 3/1/12, Jo Elizabeth Pinto <jopinto at msn.com> wrote:
>>> Well, apparently we have a long way to go.  Sorry for the sour
> grapes,
>>> but
>>> I'm really exasperated.  I took cupcakes to my daughter's preschool
> for
>>> her
>>> fourth birthday this morning.  Besides the fact that I had to reject
> the
>>> cupcakes I had ordered and scramble at the last minute to get some
> from
>>> another store because the first store had peanut oil in theirs, even
>>> though
>>> I had asked them twice if they used any peanut products and they said
>>> no--but that's another story--I won't ever shop the Target bakery
> again.
>>> But anyway, we got to the school, and Sarah was proudly showing me
> "all
>>> the
>>> beautiful things" in her classroom, those were her words, like the
> toy
>>> kitchen and the library and the carpet where you had to sit if you
> didn't
>>> behave.  She introduced me to a couple of the kids, and then she went
> up
>>> to
>>> the teacher's aide and said, "Miss Laurie, this is my mom."  And Miss
>>> Laurie
>>> said, "No, honey, that must be your aunt or something."  Sarah
> reaffirmed
>>> that I was indeed her mom, and Miss Laurie said, "But you can't see."
> I
>>> wanted to tell her that when it came right down to babymaking, my
> eyes
>>> didn't have a whole hell of a lot to do with it.  But there were kids
>>> around, so I just said, "No, I can't.  That's why I have a white
> cane."
>>> Grrrr!
>>>
>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>
>>> "How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young,
>>> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and
> tolerant
>>> of
>>> the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will have been
> all
>>> of
>>> these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American scientist
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:34 AM
>>> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
>>>
>>>> I completely agree with what you say here, and it back-ups what I
>>>> posted. I believe people learn best from us when we show through
> actions
>>>> rather than words, though words are important as well. Can it be
>>>> tiresome at times, sure, but if we stop "educating" society, nothing
>>>> changes. We live our lives, go about our business, and by doing
> this, we
>>>> show the world what blind people can do.
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>>>> Read my blog at:
>>>> http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>>>>
>>>> "History is not what happened; history is what was written down."
>>>> The Expected One- Kathleen McGowan
>>>>
>>>> Message: 37
>>>> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 09:46:18 -0700
>>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Taking advantage of parenting classes
>>>> Message-ID: <007b01ccf7ca$d39fa010$7adee030$@net>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>
>>>> Bridget, we live each day learning and educating.  Each day we step
> out
>>>> of our home, we educate the public of what we can or cannot do as a
>>>> blind individual. Each and every time I walk my daughter to the
> corner,
>>>> I am educating others of how I use my cane, how I don't fall into
> cracks
>>>> along the edge of the road or how I know when to cross.  I am
> educating
>>>> them on how I, a blind mom, keeps my child safe. On the otherhand I
> am
>>>> learning each and everytime I take a step, whether it is in my own
> home
>>>> or out in public.  I am learning what to do when the dog darts  in
> front
>>>> of me, I am learning how to solve problems that might arise during a
>>>> given minut.  I am learning when I walk out the door. It is crazy
> for
>>>> anyone to say, that educating and learning is not important.
>>>>
>>>> Educating/learning, whether in a classroom, online or experiencing
> life
>>>> is necessary. Some of the things we learn, should be common sense,
> but
>>>> what is that?  An idea of what should be, some of us, just don't
> think
>>>> that way.  We need someone to put the idea, the flame on the candle
> to
>>>> start it burning. Sorry about that. I just hate when peeps say that
> we
>>>> shouldn'tlearn and are tired of educating others. V
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> blparent mailing list
>>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent_nfbnet.org
>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
> for
>>>> blparent:
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 15:19:19 -0700
> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
> Message-ID: <auto-000053870125 at fe-3.cluster1.bresnan.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi jo elizabeth that is so frustrating. I don't think I will understand
> ever why because we are blind so much less is expected of us. Like my
> husband says five year old kids have more sense. When Mark was in the
> first grade we gave a presentation to his class and his teacher had a
> fit about me using a knife. I'm sorry but it is rather difficult to cook
> without using a knife and god forbid getting close to the heat on a
> stove. You can't cook without heat or slicing or cutting food.
>
> Sheila Leigland
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 15:20:38 -0700
> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] When Our Kids Do Us Proud
> Message-ID: <auto-000035431816 at fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> I love that.
>
> Sheila Leigland
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 17
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:28:43 -0500
> From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Still using visual gestures with other blind
> people
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Bridgit,
>
> I am the same way. I love when I talk with my hands for the first time
> with
> a person, who of course knows I am totally blind, they usually don't
> know
> what to do with me. Its very funny to hear there reactions.
>
> Marsha
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Bridgit Pollpeter
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 1:16 PM
> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blparent] Still using visual gestures with other blind people
>
> Both my husband and I are blind, though he has some useable vision, but
> he can't see everything especially in the dark. We both use to be fully
> sighted, though he has RP so he knew he would eventually start
> experiencing vision loss, but I had no reason to think I would be blind
> someday. Anyway, I'm still a very visual person and always use visual
> gestures. I will do this with Ross, my husband, and get annoyed when he
> doesn't respond correctly before realizing oh, right, he can't see me
> either, grin! I will also give those conspiratorial looks across the
> room or at someone sitting a couple of chairs away from me or something,
> and again, when it's Ross or other blind people, I have a moment where I
> forget they can't see me. LOL
>
> When you learn and pick up visual gestures and behaviors, they stick
> with you even if you lose your sight. It's just second nature to do this
> even among other blind people.
>
> Sincerely,
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Read my blog at:
> http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>
> "History is not what happened; history is what was written down."
> The Expected One- Kathleen McGowan
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 22:52:53 -0700
> From: "Tay Laurie" <j.t.laurie at gmail.com>
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Explaining vision loss to children
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> reply-type=response
>
> Well, everoyne here at the apt complex thinks it's "cute" how my husband
> and
> I are able to manage fairly well, even when navigating. Because I have
> the
> most sight out of both of us, he gives me his longest cane, and then he
> pushes my wheelchair down the hall, sidewalk, etc. Granted, on
> unfamiliar
> paths we run into snags such as unexpected hills, ruts, and dropoffs,
> but
> that's ok. Or, how if I'm asking him to find something, I can give him a
>
> general "this is where it is" or, when he's handing me something, I snap
> my
> fingers or pat or knock the desk where I want it put. He does the same
> thing. I sometimes forget he's blind until I nod  or shrug and he's not
> sure
> I heard me, or I kid and use facial expressions to convey it. I used to
> have
> sight, so for me it's a rather odd cross.
>
>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 16:42:08 -0700
> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com>
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
> Message-ID: <SNT116-DS219139E770D8A0D87B2367AC6C0 at phx.gbl>
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>
> Wow, I guess we could all go back to cave man days--wait, no, they had
> fire.
> We might get burned.  I cut my finger opening a package of hot dogs once
>
> with a knife, and someone remarked about how hard it must be to use
> knives
> when you were blind.  I just said, what, you never cut yourself before?
> That ended the conversation.
>
> Jo Elizabeth
>
> "How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young,
> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant
> of
> the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will have been all
> of
> these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American scientist
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Sheila Leigland" <sleigland at bresnan.net>
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:19 PM
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
>
>> Hi jo elizabeth that is so frustrating. I don't think I will
> understand
>> ever why because we are blind so much less is expected of us. Like my
>> husband says five year old kids have more sense. When Mark was in the
>> first grade we gave a presentation to his class and his teacher had a
> fit
>> about me using a knife. I'm sorry but it is rather difficult to cook
>> without using a knife and god forbid getting close to the heat on a
> stove.
>> You can't cook without heat or slicing or cutting food.
>>
>> Sheila Leigland
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> blparent mailing list
>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent_nfbnet.org
>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>> blparent:
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>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 19
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 17:54:45 -0600
> From: "Deborah Kent Stein" <dkent5817 at att.net>
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
> Message-ID: <004101ccf806$aea7b360$d70aa8c0 at Debbie>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=response
>
>
>
> I sometimes point out how busy emergency rooms are twenty-four hours a
> day,
> handling people who have had every sort of accident, imagineable and
> unimagineable - and almost all of those accident victims are sighted.
> Go
> figure.
>
> Debbie
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com>
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 5:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
>
>
>> Wow, I guess we could all go back to cave man days--wait, no, they had
>
>> fire. We might get burned.  I cut my finger opening a package of hot
> dogs
>> once with a knife, and someone remarked about how hard it must be to
> use
>> knives when you were blind.  I just said, what, you never cut yourself
>
>> before? That ended the conversation.
>>
>> Jo Elizabeth
>>
>> "How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young,
>> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and
> tolerant
>> of the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will have
> been
>> all of these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American
> scientist
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Sheila Leigland" <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:19 PM
>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
>>
>>> Hi jo elizabeth that is so frustrating. I don't think I will
> understand
>>> ever why because we are blind so much less is expected of us. Like my
>
>>> husband says five year old kids have more sense. When Mark was in the
>
>>> first grade we gave a presentation to his class and his teacher had a
> fit
>>> about me using a knife. I'm sorry but it is rather difficult to cook
>>> without using a knife and god forbid getting close to the heat on a
>>> stove. You can't cook without heat or slicing or cutting food.
>>>
>>> Sheila Leigland
>>>
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> Message: 20
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 17:44:04 -0700
> From: "Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com>
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] O.T. hair dye
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> This goes for massages as well and it's great!
>
> Erin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Veronica Smith
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:29 AM
> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blparent] O.T. hair dye
>
> If you want to save money and still have your hair colored, check out
> the
> beauty colleges.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Kate McEachern
> Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 4:21 AM
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> Subject: [blparent] O.T. hair dye
>
> Hey,  have any of you women who are Blind dyed your hair at home.  I
> would
> like to save some money.  If so, how did you do it and did it come out
> good?
>
> Thanks.
> Kate
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> Message: 21
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 17:51:43 -0700
> From: "Tay Laurie" <j.t.laurie at gmail.com>
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
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> They expect blind folks to use either a microwave or delivery. nuff
> said.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Sheila Leigland" <sleigland at bresnan.net>
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
>
>
>> Hi jo elizabeth that is so frustrating. I don't think I will
> understand
>> ever why because we are blind so much less is expected of us. Like my
>> husband says five year old kids have more sense. When Mark was in the
>> first grade we gave a presentation to his class and his teacher had a
> fit
>> about me using a knife. I'm sorry but it is rather difficult to cook
>> without using a knife and god forbid getting close to the heat on a
> stove.
>> You can't cook without heat or slicing or cutting food.
>>
>> Sheila Leigland
>>
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> Message: 22
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 17:52:31 -0700
> From: "Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com>
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Explaining vision loss to children
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> I know of blind baby's whose parents got mobiles for them but even more
> so I
> know parents of blind and sighted children who are going with the
> soothers
> like I got for my son.  It hooks to the side of the crib and is much
> sturdier than a mobile and less likely to break down.  They not only
> play
> music and lots of times offer a variety of songs and nature sounds, but
> there is also a picture that moves on a screen for babies to look at.
> The
> great thing is that on a lot of the soothers you can have a choice of 5
> minutes all the way up to 20 minutes or longer.
>
> Erin
>
>
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