[blparent] Where to purchase soothers

Sat Mar 3 22:08:14 UTC 2012

Erin,

This sounds interesting. Do you have any brands to suggest, and info on
where to buy these products? I'd appreciate it.

Sincerely,
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Read my blog at:
http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/

"History is not what happened; history is what was written down."
The Expected One- Kathleen McGowan

Message: 22
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 22:52:53 -0700
From: "Tay Laurie" <j.t.laurie at gmail.com>
To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Explaining vision loss to children
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Well, everoyne here at the apt complex thinks it's "cute" how my husband
and 
I are able to manage fairly well, even when navigating. Because I have
the 
most sight out of both of us, he gives me his longest cane, and then he 
pushes my wheelchair down the hall, sidewalk, etc. Granted, on
unfamiliar 
paths we run into snags such as unexpected hills, ruts, and dropoffs,
but 
that's ok. Or, how if I'm asking him to find something, I can give him a

general "this is where it is" or, when he's handing me something, I snap
my 
fingers or pat or knock the desk where I want it put. He does the same 
thing. I sometimes forget he's blind until I nod  or shrug and he's not
sure 
I heard me, or I kid and use facial expressions to convey it. I used to
have 
sight, so for me it's a rather odd cross.

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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:19:54 -0600
From: Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blparent] Thinking about the future
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We had my sister live with us for a year when she was 17, and let me
tell you, I'm tempted to send my kids away once they become teens. LOL
It was quite the experience. Not that all teens are like this, but we
had to deal with random friends coming over, coming in at all hours
despite giving her a liberal curfew and even sneaking out one night, at
least one night I know of. Obviously with my own children I will have
the opportunity to instill my own values and ideas, but kids will be
kids, and they will turn out the way they turn out. Yeah, a little
scary.

Sincerely,
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Read my blog at: http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/

"History is not what happened; history is what was written down." The
Expected One- Kathleen McGowan

Message: 23
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 02:55:59 -0700
From: Vanessa and violet vega <babybuffalovanessuevega at gmail.com>
To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Thinking about the future
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It sounds scary that is why i i dont think of it much.

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:26:52 -0600
From: Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blparent] Blind babies and mobiles
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Sure, why not? If they play music, a blind baby could still enjoy the
sounds. And if the whirring sound of the mechanics were loud enough, it
may help the baby sleep.

Sincerely,
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Read my blog at: http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/

"History is not what happened; history is what was written down." The
Expected One- Kathleen McGowan

Message: 27
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:21:02 +0000
From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List' <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Explaining vision loss to children
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Now I'm wondering if babies who are blind get mobiles??
Anybody know?
I remember my daughter being very frustrated when her mobile would run
down after a few minutes because she was looking at it.

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:34:25 -0600
From: Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP3967580F9BC67DA5EEEAC8AC46C0 at phx.gbl>
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I completely agree with what you say here, and it back-ups what I
posted. I believe people learn best from us when we show through actions
rather than words, though words are important as well. Can it be
tiresome at times, sure, but if we stop "educating" society, nothing
changes. We live our lives, go about our business, and by doing this, we
show the world what blind people can do.

Sincerely,
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Read my blog at: http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/

"History is not what happened; history is what was written down." The
Expected One- Kathleen McGowan

Message: 37
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 09:46:18 -0700
From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Taking advantage of parenting classes
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Bridget, we live each day learning and educating.  Each day we step out
of our home, we educate the public of what we can or cannot do as a
blind individual. Each and every time I walk my daughter to the corner,
I am educating others of how I use my cane, how I don't fall into cracks
along the edge of the road or how I know when to cross.  I am educating
them on how I, a blind mom, keeps my child safe. On the otherhand I am
learning each and everytime I take a step, whether it is in my own home
or out in public.  I am learning what to do when the dog darts  in front
of me, I am learning how to solve problems that might arise during a
given minut.  I am learning when I walk out the door. It is crazy for
anyone to say, that educating and learning is not important.

Educating/learning, whether in a classroom, online or experiencing life
is necessary. Some of the things we learn, should be common sense, but
what is that?  An idea of what should be, some of us, just don't think
that way.  We need someone to put the idea, the flame on the candle to
start it burning. Sorry about that. I just hate when peeps say that we
shouldn'tlearn and are tired of educating others. V

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:34:38 -0500
From: "Samara Raine" <samararaine at gmail.com>
To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Thinking about the future
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All I can say is I hope that if I have a daughter, she doesn't turn out
like 
me. At least, what I was like as a teenager. Granted, there were
horrific 
circumstances surrounding my teen years, but man was I difficult.

----- Original Message ----- Samara

From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 1:19 PM
Subject: [blparent] Thinking about the future

> We had my sister live with us for a year when she was 17, and let me 
> tell you, I'm tempted to send my kids away once they become teens. LOL

> It was quite the experience. Not that all teens are like this, but we 
> had to deal with random friends coming over, coming in at all hours 
> despite giving her a liberal curfew and even sneaking out one night, 
> at least one night I know of. Obviously with my own children I will 
> have the opportunity to instill my own values and ideas, but kids will

> be kids, and they will turn out the way they turn out. Yeah, a little 
> scary.
>
> Sincerely,
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Read my blog at: http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>
> "History is not what happened; history is what was written down." The 
> Expected One- Kathleen McGowan
>
> Message: 23
> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 02:55:59 -0700
> From: Vanessa and violet vega <babybuffalovanessuevega at gmail.com>
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Thinking about the future
> Message-ID: <d6fc36df-34d8-4737-ab58-1200f9c202b8 at email.android.com>
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>
> It sounds scary that is why i i dont think of it much.
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 11:34:50 -0700
From: "Tay Laurie" <j.t.laurie at gmail.com>
To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Blind babies and mobiles
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I use a white noise machine set to the   hearrrrtbeat..... Sometimes it 
helps with my anxiety, don't know why. But mobiles are cute, anyway.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:26 AM
Subject: [blparent] Blind babies and mobiles

> Sure, why not? If they play music, a blind baby could still enjoy the 
> sounds. And if the whirring sound of the mechanics were loud enough, 
> it may help the baby sleep.
>
> Sincerely,
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Read my blog at: http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>
> "History is not what happened; history is what was written down." The 
> Expected One- Kathleen McGowan
>
> Message: 27
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 14:21:02 +0000
> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List' <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Explaining vision loss to children
> Message-ID: <AAE38548E198F64B8E345439B68CCC7832F98D4B at TSEAMB02>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Now I'm wondering if babies who are blind get mobiles?? Anybody know?
> I remember my daughter being very frustrated when her mobile would run
> down after a few minutes because she was looking at it.
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:37:59 -0600
From: Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blparent] Stroller edicket  for blind couples
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Chris,

You pull the stroller behind you. They now make strollers with flip
handles so the stroller, and baby, are still facing you, and you can
hold onto the handle while pulling it. It's pretty simple, and my
husband and I go out and about a lot and haven't had problems with this
method.

Sincerely,
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Read my blog at:
http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/

"History is not what happened; history is what was written down."
The Expected One- Kathleen McGowan

Message: 39
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:16:58 -0500
From: Chris R <chrisr at myfairpoint.net>
To: blparent at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blparent] stroller edicket for blind couples
Message-ID: d23d94d2-e413-4493-8005-f8188f7cc228 at samobile.net
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Hello all:
My name is christopher Reagan and my partner have a question about how 
to handle a stroller if we both need to go somewhere and need to take 
the baby out.  I know that they eventually grow out of the pouches and 
packs for babies so I'd like to know how blind couples handle strollers 
with canes and guide dogs?
thanks and take care
Chris Reagan

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 11:55:56 -0700
From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com>
To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Explaining vision loss to children
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I think I had a bird that made noise.  But nobody knew I was blind till
I 
was five or six months old and not reaching for things.  So I might have

been given a regular mobile.  I was in an incubator till I was a few
months 
old.

Jo Elizabeth

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, 
compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant
of 
the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will have been all
of 
these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American scientist

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From: "Tay Laurie" <j.t.laurie at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 8:47 AM
To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Explaining vision loss to children

> I had one in the hospital for my surgeries, when I was about three or 
> four, but they lowered it down where I could touch it.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 7:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Explaining vision loss to children
>
>
>> Now I'm wondering if babies who are blind get mobiles??
>> Anybody know?
>> I remember my daughter being very frustrated when her mobile would
run 
>> down after a few minutes because she was looking at it.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Sheila Leigland
>> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 12:38 AM
>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Explaining vision loss to children
>>
>> Wow that is a really interesting story and I can see why you would be

>> jealous knowing what you believed.
>>
>> Sheila Leigland
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:58:12 -0500
From: "Samara Raine" <samararaine at gmail.com>
To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Stroller edicket  for blind couples
Message-ID: <0751DFEA70384FB9BC9AEBC7775CFA57 at delljl5li312a0>
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Bridgit, I'm sorry to head back into a discussion I'm pretty sure was
just 
recently had, but which flip-handle stroller do you use?

Sam

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 1:37 PM
Subject: [blparent] Stroller edicket for blind couples

> Chris,
>
> You pull the stroller behind you. They now make strollers with flip
> handles so the stroller, and baby, are still facing you, and you can
> hold onto the handle while pulling it. It's pretty simple, and my
> husband and I go out and about a lot and haven't had problems with
this
> method.
>
> Sincerely,
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Read my blog at:
> http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>
> "History is not what happened; history is what was written down."
> The Expected One- Kathleen McGowan
>
> Message: 39
> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:16:58 -0500
> From: Chris R <chrisr at myfairpoint.net>
> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [blparent] stroller edicket for blind couples
> Message-ID: d23d94d2-e413-4493-8005-f8188f7cc228 at samobile.net
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed"
>
> Hello all:
> My name is christopher Reagan and my partner have a question about how
> to handle a stroller if we both need to go somewhere and need to take
> the baby out.  I know that they eventually grow out of the pouches and
> packs for babies so I'd like to know how blind couples handle
strollers
> with canes and guide dogs?
> thanks and take care
> Chris Reagan
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:06:44 -0700
From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com>
To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
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Well, apparently we have a long way to go.  Sorry for the sour grapes,
but 
I'm really exasperated.  I took cupcakes to my daughter's preschool for
her 
fourth birthday this morning.  Besides the fact that I had to reject the

cupcakes I had ordered and scramble at the last minute to get some from 
another store because the first store had peanut oil in theirs, even
though 
I had asked them twice if they used any peanut products and they said 
no--but that's another story--I won't ever shop the Target bakery again.

But anyway, we got to the school, and Sarah was proudly showing me "all
the 
beautiful things" in her classroom, those were her words, like the toy 
kitchen and the library and the carpet where you had to sit if you
didn't 
behave.  She introduced me to a couple of the kids, and then she went up
to 
the teacher's aide and said, "Miss Laurie, this is my mom."  And Miss
Laurie 
said, "No, honey, that must be your aunt or something."  Sarah
reaffirmed 
that I was indeed her mom, and Miss Laurie said, "But you can't see."  I

wanted to tell her that when it came right down to babymaking, my eyes 
didn't have a whole hell of a lot to do with it.  But there were kids 
around, so I just said, "No, I can't.  That's why I have a white cane." 
Grrrr!

Jo Elizabeth

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, 
compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant
of 
the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will have been all
of 
these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American scientist

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From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:34 AM
To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blparent] Educating society about blindness

> I completely agree with what you say here, and it back-ups what I
> posted. I believe people learn best from us when we show through
actions
> rather than words, though words are important as well. Can it be
> tiresome at times, sure, but if we stop "educating" society, nothing
> changes. We live our lives, go about our business, and by doing this,
we
> show the world what blind people can do.
>
> Sincerely,
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Read my blog at:
> http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>
> "History is not what happened; history is what was written down."
> The Expected One- Kathleen McGowan
>
> Message: 37
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 09:46:18 -0700
> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Taking advantage of parenting classes
> Message-ID: <007b01ccf7ca$d39fa010$7adee030$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Bridget, we live each day learning and educating.  Each day we step
out
> of our home, we educate the public of what we can or cannot do as a
> blind individual. Each and every time I walk my daughter to the
corner,
> I am educating others of how I use my cane, how I don't fall into
cracks
> along the edge of the road or how I know when to cross.  I am
educating
> them on how I, a blind mom, keeps my child safe. On the otherhand I am
> learning each and everytime I take a step, whether it is in my own
home
> or out in public.  I am learning what to do when the dog darts  in
front
> of me, I am learning how to solve problems that might arise during a
> given minut.  I am learning when I walk out the door. It is crazy for
> anyone to say, that educating and learning is not important.
>
> Educating/learning, whether in a classroom, online or experiencing
life
> is necessary. Some of the things we learn, should be common sense, but
> what is that?  An idea of what should be, some of us, just don't think
> that way.  We need someone to put the idea, the flame on the candle to
> start it burning. Sorry about that. I just hate when peeps say that we
> shouldn'tlearn and are tired of educating others. V
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 12:10:24 -0700
From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com>
To: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: [blparent] When Our Kids Do Us Proud
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Hi.  We've had a lot of discussions on this list about behavior we don't
want in our kids, but once in a while they really shine.  I was so proud
of Sarah last night, I just had to brag.  We were at a Village Inn
restaurant where we go often, and we know one of the waitresses whose
name is Jenny.  Sarah told Jenny it was her birthday, and then invited
her to the party we're having on Sunday.  Jenny said she would love to
come but she had to work that day.  Sarah thought about it for a second
and then said, "Um, excuse me?  Jenny?  Why don't you take my pie home
then, since you can't come to the party?"  She'd just gotten a piece of
her favorite lemon pie.  I was floored.  I told her how nice that was of
her to offer, and so did Jenny.  Parenting can sometimes be hard, and
sometimes tedious from day to day, but Dad and I must be doing something
right!

Jo Elizabeth

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young,
compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant
of the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will have been
all of these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American scientist

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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:33:33 -0800
From: Lisamaria Martinez <lmartinez217 at gmail.com>
To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
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Hi Everyone,

I think this is why this list is so great. We all understand how we
are educating the public every time we step outside our door. However,
I'm sure we also understand that the burden of educating every day,
all the time, gets tiring, and sometimes, we just have to stop being
worried about being educators and just be okay with being human.

I've had my days when I snapped at the person who tried to put my
son's shoes on for me because he kicked them off for the umteenth time
and I didn't see it happen. I've also had my days where I've just
smiled at the person who sat down next to me on BART and said that I
was such a strong woman for being a blind mom. Sometimes, I follow
that smile up with a joke about how I'm not any different than any
other working mom or how stay-at-home moms are even braver than I
because they have their child 24-7.

Anyhow, life is but a stage and we are all actors ... but even actors
get to have intermission.

On 3/1/12, Jo Elizabeth Pinto <jopinto at msn.com> wrote:
> Well, apparently we have a long way to go.  Sorry for the sour grapes,
but
> I'm really exasperated.  I took cupcakes to my daughter's preschool
for her
> fourth birthday this morning.  Besides the fact that I had to reject
the
> cupcakes I had ordered and scramble at the last minute to get some
from
> another store because the first store had peanut oil in theirs, even
though
> I had asked them twice if they used any peanut products and they said
> no--but that's another story--I won't ever shop the Target bakery
again.
> But anyway, we got to the school, and Sarah was proudly showing me
"all the
> beautiful things" in her classroom, those were her words, like the toy
> kitchen and the library and the carpet where you had to sit if you
didn't
> behave.  She introduced me to a couple of the kids, and then she went
up to
> the teacher's aide and said, "Miss Laurie, this is my mom."  And Miss
Laurie
> said, "No, honey, that must be your aunt or something."  Sarah
reaffirmed
> that I was indeed her mom, and Miss Laurie said, "But you can't see."
I
> wanted to tell her that when it came right down to babymaking, my eyes
> didn't have a whole hell of a lot to do with it.  But there were kids
> around, so I just said, "No, I can't.  That's why I have a white
cane."
> Grrrr!
>
> Jo Elizabeth
>
> "How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young,
> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and
tolerant of
> the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will have been
all of
> these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American scientist
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:34 AM
> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
>
>> I completely agree with what you say here, and it back-ups what I
>> posted. I believe people learn best from us when we show through
actions
>> rather than words, though words are important as well. Can it be
>> tiresome at times, sure, but if we stop "educating" society, nothing
>> changes. We live our lives, go about our business, and by doing this,
we
>> show the world what blind people can do.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>> Read my blog at:
>> http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>>
>> "History is not what happened; history is what was written down."
>> The Expected One- Kathleen McGowan
>>
>> Message: 37
>> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 09:46:18 -0700
>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Taking advantage of parenting classes
>> Message-ID: <007b01ccf7ca$d39fa010$7adee030$@net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Bridget, we live each day learning and educating.  Each day we step
out
>> of our home, we educate the public of what we can or cannot do as a
>> blind individual. Each and every time I walk my daughter to the
corner,
>> I am educating others of how I use my cane, how I don't fall into
cracks
>> along the edge of the road or how I know when to cross.  I am
educating
>> them on how I, a blind mom, keeps my child safe. On the otherhand I
am
>> learning each and everytime I take a step, whether it is in my own
home
>> or out in public.  I am learning what to do when the dog darts  in
front
>> of me, I am learning how to solve problems that might arise during a
>> given minut.  I am learning when I walk out the door. It is crazy for
>> anyone to say, that educating and learning is not important.
>>
>> Educating/learning, whether in a classroom, online or experiencing
life
>> is necessary. Some of the things we learn, should be common sense,
but
>> what is that?  An idea of what should be, some of us, just don't
think
>> that way.  We need someone to put the idea, the flame on the candle
to
>> start it burning. Sorry about that. I just hate when peeps say that
we
>> shouldn'tlearn and are tired of educating others. V
>>
>>
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 13:56:57 -0800
From: Lisamaria Martinez <lmartinez217 at gmail.com>
To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
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On 3/1/12, Lisamaria Martinez <lmartinez217 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> I think this is why this list is so great. We all understand how we
> are educating the public every time we step outside our door. However,
> I'm sure we also understand that the burden of educating every day,
> all the time, gets tiring, and sometimes, we just have to stop being
> worried about being educators and just be okay with being human.
>
> I've had my days when I snapped at the person who tried to put my
> son's shoes on for me because he kicked them off for the umteenth time
> and I didn't see it happen. I've also had my days where I've just
> smiled at the person who sat down next to me on BART and said that I
> was such a strong woman for being a blind mom. Sometimes, I follow
> that smile up with a joke about how I'm not any different than any
> other working mom or how stay-at-home moms are even braver than I
> because they have their child 24-7.
>
> Anyhow, life is but a stage and we are all actors ... but even actors
> get to have intermission.
>
> On 3/1/12, Jo Elizabeth Pinto <jopinto at msn.com> wrote:
>> Well, apparently we have a long way to go.  Sorry for the sour
grapes,
>> but
>> I'm really exasperated.  I took cupcakes to my daughter's preschool
for
>> her
>> fourth birthday this morning.  Besides the fact that I had to reject
the
>> cupcakes I had ordered and scramble at the last minute to get some
from
>> another store because the first store had peanut oil in theirs, even
>> though
>> I had asked them twice if they used any peanut products and they said
>> no--but that's another story--I won't ever shop the Target bakery
again.
>> But anyway, we got to the school, and Sarah was proudly showing me
"all
>> the
>> beautiful things" in her classroom, those were her words, like the
toy
>> kitchen and the library and the carpet where you had to sit if you
didn't
>> behave.  She introduced me to a couple of the kids, and then she went
up
>> to
>> the teacher's aide and said, "Miss Laurie, this is my mom."  And Miss
>> Laurie
>> said, "No, honey, that must be your aunt or something."  Sarah
reaffirmed
>> that I was indeed her mom, and Miss Laurie said, "But you can't see."
I
>> wanted to tell her that when it came right down to babymaking, my
eyes
>> didn't have a whole hell of a lot to do with it.  But there were kids
>> around, so I just said, "No, I can't.  That's why I have a white
cane."
>> Grrrr!
>>
>> Jo Elizabeth
>>
>> "How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young,
>> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and
tolerant
>> of
>> the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will have been
all
>> of
>> these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American scientist
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:34 AM
>> To: <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
>>
>>> I completely agree with what you say here, and it back-ups what I
>>> posted. I believe people learn best from us when we show through
actions
>>> rather than words, though words are important as well. Can it be
>>> tiresome at times, sure, but if we stop "educating" society, nothing
>>> changes. We live our lives, go about our business, and by doing
this, we
>>> show the world what blind people can do.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>>> Read my blog at:
>>> http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/
>>>
>>> "History is not what happened; history is what was written down."
>>> The Expected One- Kathleen McGowan
>>>
>>> Message: 37
>>> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 09:46:18 -0700
>>> From: "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>> To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Taking advantage of parenting classes
>>> Message-ID: <007b01ccf7ca$d39fa010$7adee030$@net>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> Bridget, we live each day learning and educating.  Each day we step
out
>>> of our home, we educate the public of what we can or cannot do as a
>>> blind individual. Each and every time I walk my daughter to the
corner,
>>> I am educating others of how I use my cane, how I don't fall into
cracks
>>> along the edge of the road or how I know when to cross.  I am
educating
>>> them on how I, a blind mom, keeps my child safe. On the otherhand I
am
>>> learning each and everytime I take a step, whether it is in my own
home
>>> or out in public.  I am learning what to do when the dog darts  in
front
>>> of me, I am learning how to solve problems that might arise during a
>>> given minut.  I am learning when I walk out the door. It is crazy
for
>>> anyone to say, that educating and learning is not important.
>>>
>>> Educating/learning, whether in a classroom, online or experiencing
life
>>> is necessary. Some of the things we learn, should be common sense,
but
>>> what is that?  An idea of what should be, some of us, just don't
think
>>> that way.  We need someone to put the idea, the flame on the candle
to
>>> start it burning. Sorry about that. I just hate when peeps say that
we
>>> shouldn'tlearn and are tired of educating others. V
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> blparent mailing list
>>> blparent at nfbnet.org
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/blparent_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
for
>>> blparent:
>>>
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>>
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>

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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 15:19:19 -0700
From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
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Hi jo elizabeth that is so frustrating. I don't think I will understand
ever why because we are blind so much less is expected of us. Like my
husband says five year old kids have more sense. When Mark was in the
first grade we gave a presentation to his class and his teacher had a
fit about me using a knife. I'm sorry but it is rather difficult to cook
without using a knife and god forbid getting close to the heat on a
stove. You can't cook without heat or slicing or cutting food.

Sheila Leigland

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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 15:20:38 -0700
From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
To: Blind Parents Mailing List <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] When Our Kids Do Us Proud
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I love that.

Sheila Leigland

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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 18:28:43 -0500
From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Still using visual gestures with other blind
	people
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Bridgit,

I am the same way. I love when I talk with my hands for the first time
with
a person, who of course knows I am totally blind, they usually don't
know
what to do with me. Its very funny to hear there reactions. 

Marsha 

-----Original Message-----
From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On
Behalf Of Bridgit Pollpeter
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 1:16 PM
To: blparent at nfbnet.org
Subject: [blparent] Still using visual gestures with other blind people

Both my husband and I are blind, though he has some useable vision, but
he can't see everything especially in the dark. We both use to be fully
sighted, though he has RP so he knew he would eventually start
experiencing vision loss, but I had no reason to think I would be blind
someday. Anyway, I'm still a very visual person and always use visual
gestures. I will do this with Ross, my husband, and get annoyed when he
doesn't respond correctly before realizing oh, right, he can't see me
either, grin! I will also give those conspiratorial looks across the
room or at someone sitting a couple of chairs away from me or something,
and again, when it's Ross or other blind people, I have a moment where I
forget they can't see me. LOL

When you learn and pick up visual gestures and behaviors, they stick
with you even if you lose your sight. It's just second nature to do this
even among other blind people.

Sincerely,
Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
Read my blog at:
http://blogs.livewellnebraska.com/author/bpollpeter/

"History is not what happened; history is what was written down."
The Expected One- Kathleen McGowan

Message: 22
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 22:52:53 -0700
From: "Tay Laurie" <j.t.laurie at gmail.com>
To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Explaining vision loss to children
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Well, everoyne here at the apt complex thinks it's "cute" how my husband
and 
I are able to manage fairly well, even when navigating. Because I have
the 
most sight out of both of us, he gives me his longest cane, and then he 
pushes my wheelchair down the hall, sidewalk, etc. Granted, on
unfamiliar 
paths we run into snags such as unexpected hills, ruts, and dropoffs,
but 
that's ok. Or, how if I'm asking him to find something, I can give him a

general "this is where it is" or, when he's handing me something, I snap
my 
fingers or pat or knock the desk where I want it put. He does the same 
thing. I sometimes forget he's blind until I nod  or shrug and he's not
sure 
I heard me, or I kid and use facial expressions to convey it. I used to
have 
sight, so for me it's a rather odd cross.

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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 16:42:08 -0700
From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com>
To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
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Wow, I guess we could all go back to cave man days--wait, no, they had
fire. 
We might get burned.  I cut my finger opening a package of hot dogs once

with a knife, and someone remarked about how hard it must be to use
knives 
when you were blind.  I just said, what, you never cut yourself before? 
That ended the conversation.

Jo Elizabeth

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, 
compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant
of 
the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will have been all
of 
these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American scientist

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Sheila Leigland" <sleigland at bresnan.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:19 PM
To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Educating society about blindness

> Hi jo elizabeth that is so frustrating. I don't think I will
understand 
> ever why because we are blind so much less is expected of us. Like my 
> husband says five year old kids have more sense. When Mark was in the 
> first grade we gave a presentation to his class and his teacher had a
fit 
> about me using a knife. I'm sorry but it is rather difficult to cook 
> without using a knife and god forbid getting close to the heat on a
stove. 
> You can't cook without heat or slicing or cutting food.
>
> Sheila Leigland
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 17:54:45 -0600
From: "Deborah Kent Stein" <dkent5817 at att.net>
To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
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I sometimes point out how busy emergency rooms are twenty-four hours a
day, 
handling people who have had every sort of accident, imagineable and 
unimagineable - and almost all of those accident victims are sighted.
Go 
figure.

Debbie

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com>
To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: [blparent] Educating society about blindness

> Wow, I guess we could all go back to cave man days--wait, no, they had

> fire. We might get burned.  I cut my finger opening a package of hot
dogs 
> once with a knife, and someone remarked about how hard it must be to
use 
> knives when you were blind.  I just said, what, you never cut yourself

> before? That ended the conversation.
>
> Jo Elizabeth
>
> "How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, 
> compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and
tolerant 
> of the weak and the strong.  Because someday in life you will have
been 
> all of these."--George Washington Carver, 1864-1943, American
scientist
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Sheila Leigland" <sleigland at bresnan.net>
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:19 PM
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
>
>> Hi jo elizabeth that is so frustrating. I don't think I will
understand 
>> ever why because we are blind so much less is expected of us. Like my

>> husband says five year old kids have more sense. When Mark was in the

>> first grade we gave a presentation to his class and his teacher had a
fit 
>> about me using a knife. I'm sorry but it is rather difficult to cook 
>> without using a knife and god forbid getting close to the heat on a 
>> stove. You can't cook without heat or slicing or cutting food.
>>
>> Sheila Leigland
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> blparent at nfbnet.org
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Message: 20
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 17:44:04 -0700
From: "Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com>
To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] O.T. hair dye
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This goes for massages as well and it's great!

Erin

-----Original Message-----
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On
Behalf Of Veronica Smith
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 9:29 AM
To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blparent] O.T. hair dye

If you want to save money and still have your hair colored, check out
the
beauty colleges.

-----Original Message-----
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On
Behalf Of Kate McEachern
Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 4:21 AM
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Subject: [blparent] O.T. hair dye

Hey,  have any of you women who are Blind dyed your hair at home.  I
would
like to save some money.  If so, how did you do it and did it come out
good?

Thanks.
Kate
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Message: 21
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 17:51:43 -0700
From: "Tay Laurie" <j.t.laurie at gmail.com>
To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Educating society about blindness
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They expect blind folks to use either a microwave or delivery. nuff
said.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sheila Leigland" <sleigland at bresnan.net>
To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [blparent] Educating society about blindness

> Hi jo elizabeth that is so frustrating. I don't think I will
understand 
> ever why because we are blind so much less is expected of us. Like my 
> husband says five year old kids have more sense. When Mark was in the 
> first grade we gave a presentation to his class and his teacher had a
fit 
> about me using a knife. I'm sorry but it is rather difficult to cook 
> without using a knife and god forbid getting close to the heat on a
stove. 
> You can't cook without heat or slicing or cutting food.
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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2012 17:52:31 -0700
From: "Erin Rumer" <erinrumer at gmail.com>
To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Explaining vision loss to children
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I know of blind baby's whose parents got mobiles for them but even more
so I
know parents of blind and sighted children who are going with the
soothers
like I got for my son.  It hooks to the side of the crib and is much
sturdier than a mobile and less likely to break down.  They not only
play
music and lots of times offer a variety of songs and nature sounds, but
there is also a picture that moves on a screen for babies to look at.
The
great thing is that on a lot of the soothers you can have a choice of 5
minutes all the way up to 20 minutes or longer.

Erin