[blparent] Leashes (was resource list)

Erin Rumer erinrumer at gmail.com
Tue May 29 17:07:21 UTC 2012 

Dianne, I totally agree with what you're saying about not judging each
other's parenting stiles, especially when it comes to things like leashes
that don't even begin to bring-up a moral or ethical issue.  Just so you
know though, if it's a decent harness and leash, there is no way the child
can take it off of themselves or the parent.  My son has a harness that has
a leash that attaches to his back so he can't get to it to take it off.  The
end of the leash loops around my wrist so he's not getting that off of me
either unless I'm knocked-out cold. SMILING  Sometimes I need the use of
both hands and that's where the leash can come in handy as well.  I totally
respect if someone doesn't prefer the leash for themselves but like you
said, it's important that we use ideas that we feel we can off this list as
parents who are blind and simply disregard those that don't.

Erin

-----Original Message-----
From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Dianna Alley
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:31 AM
To: Blind Parents Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blparent] Leashes (was resource list)

I personally think that we should not judge each other's parenting skills
what works for you may not work for someone else for example holding your
child's hand may work for you as well as me but it may not work for other
parents some kids are hard to control by just holding their hand and all the
leash does is keep them hook to you.  Most kids can take them off when they
wish to anyway all they have to do is unhook it from their mom or dad's arm.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com>
To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [blparent] Leashes (was resource list)


> You apologized--thank you--but in the next sentence you repeated the 
> same thing you said before, which you had just apologized for.
>
> I am not
>> saying you are not good parents, but as good parents we should be 
>> able to find better ways of keeping our kids in tow besides using 
>> products made for animals.
>
> As good parents, many of us have used leashes to help keep our 
> toddlers close to us and out of dangerous situations.  The leashes, 
> contrary to what you said, are not made for animals.  They are made 
> for small children. Typically, the child wears a backpack that looks 
> like a dog or a monkey, or some other cuddly stuffed animal.  A short, 
> soft leash hooks onto the backpack, and you hold the other end on your 
> wrist or in your hand.  That way, the child can learn to walk with you 
> and still have his hands free.  As your fourteen-month-old gets more 
> mobile, and wanting more freedom, and as the safety concerns mount 
> when he can run from you--and they all try it, believe me--you may 
> understand why many of us, precisely because we are good parents, chose to
use leashes.
>
> If you never use a leash, I'm fine with that.  I don't know you, nor 
> do I know what your plans are to keep your son safe as he begins to 
> walk, run, climb, and show no fear or judgment.  Actually, I would be 
> very interested in hearing about your non-leash strategies to this 
> situation.  What I do have a problem with is that you apologize in one 
> sentence, and in the next you're already saying, yet again, that good 
> parents should be able to find different options.  So those of us who 
> chose not to find different options--and again, I'm eager to hear what 
> you think those options might be--are not good parents.
>
> Thank you,
> Jo Elizabeth
>
> "A bird doesn't sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has 
> a song."  Maya Angelou
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Amanda Matheny" <mommyzhuuraan at gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 10:09 AM
> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Leashes (was resource list)
>
>> That did not come across as it sounded. I do apologize. I am not 
>> saying you are not good parents, but as good parents we should be 
>> able to find better ways of keeping our kids in tow besides using 
>> products made for animals. Just my opinion. I apologize if I am not a 
>> master of stating things tactfully and came across as rude or 
>> anything. That was not my intention and my friends know that, while I 
>> am very opinionated, I never mean any offense. Since you guys just 
>> barely met me, you have no way of knowing what I'm like, but I assure 
>> you I am not the type of offensive person I may have come across as 
>> on here. To each his own really, I just personally have a serious 
>> aversion to the things, but whatever. Not trying to be nasty though. 
>> I hope I can be forgiven and will try harder to hold my tongue, or in 
>> this case fingers, when talking to a bunch of strangers.
>>
>> On 5/29/12, Jo Elizabeth Pinto <jopinto at msn.com> wrote:
>>> So then you're coming on this list as a new member and saying that 
>>> the vast
>>>
>>> majority of us, who have raised children through toddlerhood to 
>>> school age and beyond, and who used leashes either regularly or 
>>> occasionally as situations arose, are not good parents.  Step 
>>> carefully, my dear.
>>>
>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>
>>> "A bird doesn't sing because it has an answer, it sings because it 
>>> has a song."  Maya Angelou
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Amanda Matheny" <mommyzhuuraan at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:44 AM
>>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] resource list
>>>
>>>> I will never think a leash is okay for a child. A good parent will 
>>>> find better ways to keep their kid under control besides 
>>>> restraining them wih something like that. Leashes are for animals, not
children!
>>>>
>>>> On 5/29/12, Jo Elizabeth Pinto <jopinto at msn.com> wrote:
>>>>> Sorry, but you may think it's less cruel as your kid gets older 
>>>>> and wants more freedom.  The leash isn't to make your child into a 
>>>>> dog, it's to help your child stay near you without holding on his 
>>>>> hand every second, while he's young and easily distracted.  
>>>>> Believe me, the leash is far less cruel than having your kid run 
>>>>> off into the street or into some other dangerous situation, or 
>>>>> having to keep him glued to your hand when he wants some room
>>>>>
>>>>> to explore.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>>>
>>>>> "A bird doesn't sing because it has an answer, it sings because it 
>>>>> has a song."  Maya Angelou
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>> From: "Amanda Matheny" <mommyzhuuraan at gmail.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:26 AM
>>>>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] resource list
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ewww, leashes! I hate when people put their kids on a leash like 
>>>>>> an animal! Sorry, but that's just WRONG!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just saw that in the list and had to comment. I'm not usually so 
>>>>>> bitter about something, but I've seen it before and happen to 
>>>>>> think it's cruel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/29/12, jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> OK,
>>>>>>> I think I'll start keeping these messages in a file so that  
>>>>>>> when people ask about leashes or harnesses or child locators or 
>>>>>>> bells or squeezy spoons, I'll have a listing for them.
>>>>>>> It probably won't be as fancy as someone else's and honestly, it 
>>>>>>> would be a good idea to start having such resources on hand: 
>>>>>>> (maybe at the nfb website) for blind parents.
>>>>>>> But, until that happens, a good text resource list is a good idea.
>>>>>>> But, before I start: has anyone already done this?????
>>>>>>>
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