[blparent] Leashes (was resource list)

Tue May 29 20:23:11 UTC 2012

I have never in the nine months that my daughter was inside my body, or in 
the four years and three months that she has been growing up under my care 
and supervision, treated her like an animal.  I find your post to be highly 
offensive.  Again, I would like to hear about the "other options" of which 
you speak.  The tether gave my daughter more freedom in a lot of instances, 
not less, because it allowed her to move independently around me without 
holding my hand at all times.  In any case, you're throwing around some 
pretty heavy accusations, saying that parents who use leashes or tethers are 
treating their children like animals.

Jo Elizabeth

"A bird doesn't sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has a 
song."  Maya Angelou

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From: "Christopher Reagan" <chrisr at myfairpoint.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:07 PM
To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [blparent] Leashes (was resource list)

> I'm in disagreement here.  I believe that leashes are for dogs not for
> children.  I don't believe that a child should be treated like an animal
> which is what a leash is really for.  There has to be other ways to keep
> watch of our children other than leashing them.  I hope people are 
> exploring
> these options before using a leash or tether.
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Jennifer Jackson
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 2:21 PM
> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Leashes (was resource list)
>
> Amanda, like Jo Elizabeth, I am also interested in how "good parents" find
> other ways to manage their children. I have a BS in child development, 
> along
> with raising 3 boys. I think I have said before that my youngest probably
> could have been just fine if I never used a leash. I still think he 
> enjoyed
> a lot more freedom of movement on the   leash along with the other 
> benefits
> I mentioned before. Also, I just feel a lot more dignified standing up
> straight next to a child who has sat himself down on the ground and is
> refusing to move than I am having to crouch over him to keep hold of his
> hand. My experience is also that a child in the midst of such a rebellion 
> is
> going to be twisting his hand around and trying to jerk his own little 
> hand
> out of yours. With a leash I am able to allow a small distance between us
> while I wait for my child to either accept that he is not going to get his
> way, or for him to recover his own self control and dignity.
>
> Leashes have  been used with children for centuries. There are paintings
> from the early middle ages of royals and nobles on what were then called
> leading strings. My point here is that leashes are not training tools 
> meant
> for dogs.
>
> I am not trying to convince you to use a leash. I do not care if you use 
> one
> or not. I am trying to explain how one is used in the hope that you will
> grasp that those of us who do choose to use leashes are still good 
> parents.
>
>
> Jennifer
>
>
> Jennifer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Amanda Matheny
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 11:09 AM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Leashes (was resource list)
>
> That did not come across as it sounded. I do apologize. I am not saying 
> you
> are not good parents, but as good parents we should be able to find better
> ways of keeping our kids in tow besides using products made for animals.
> Just my opinion. I apologize if I am not a master of stating things
> tactfully and came across as rude or anything. That was not my intention 
> and
> my friends know that, while I am very opinionated, I never mean any 
> offense.
> Since you guys just barely met me, you have no way of knowing what I'm 
> like,
> but I assure you I am not the type of offensive person I may have come
> across as on here. To each his own really, I just personally have a 
> serious
> aversion to the things, but whatever. Not trying to be nasty though. I 
> hope
> I can be forgiven and will try harder to hold my tongue, or in this case
> fingers, when talking to a bunch of strangers.
>
> On 5/29/12, Jo Elizabeth Pinto <jopinto at msn.com> wrote:
>> So then you're coming on this list as a new member and saying that the
> vast
>>
>> majority of us, who have raised children through toddlerhood to school
>> age and beyond, and who used leashes either regularly or occasionally
>> as situations arose, are not good parents.  Step carefully, my dear.
>>
>> Jo Elizabeth
>>
>> "A bird doesn't sing because it has an answer, it sings because it has
>> a song."  Maya Angelou
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Amanda Matheny" <mommyzhuuraan at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:44 AM
>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] resource list
>>
>>> I will never think a leash is okay for a child. A good parent will
>>> find better ways to keep their kid under control besides restraining
>>> them wih something like that. Leashes are for animals, not children!
>>>
>>> On 5/29/12, Jo Elizabeth Pinto <jopinto at msn.com> wrote:
>>>> Sorry, but you may think it's less cruel as your kid gets older and
>>>> wants more freedom.  The leash isn't to make your child into a dog,
>>>> it's to help your child stay near you without holding on his hand
>>>> every second, while he's young and easily distracted.  Believe me,
>>>> the leash is far less cruel than having your kid run off into the
>>>> street or into some other dangerous situation, or having to keep him
>>>> glued to your hand when he wants some room
>>>>
>>>> to explore.
>>>>
>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>>
>>>> "A bird doesn't sing because it has an answer, it sings because it
>>>> has a song."  Maya Angelou
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Amanda Matheny" <mommyzhuuraan at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:26 AM
>>>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] resource list
>>>>
>>>>> Ewww, leashes! I hate when people put their kids on a leash like an
>>>>> animal! Sorry, but that's just WRONG!
>>>>>
>>>>> Just saw that in the list and had to comment. I'm not usually so
>>>>> bitter about something, but I've seen it before and happen to think
>>>>> it's cruel.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/29/12, jan wright <jan.wrightfamily5 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> OK,
>>>>>> I think I'll start keeping these messages in a file so that  when
>>>>>> people ask about leashes or harnesses or child locators or bells
>>>>>> or squeezy spoons, I'll have a listing for them.
>>>>>> It probably won't be as fancy as someone else's and honestly, it
>>>>>> would be a good idea to start having such resources on hand:
>>>>>> (maybe at the nfb website) for blind parents.
>>>>>> But, until that happens, a good text resource list is a good idea.
>>>>>> But, before I start: has anyone already done this?????
>>>>>>
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