[blparent] Knitting Baby Booties

Kate McEachern kflsouth at gmail.com
Sat Sep 8 01:41:19 UTC 2012 

I tried to crochet once but instead of a square I got a circle.  Don't know
what I did wrong.  Would like to try again. Hay Gabe maybe we can take one
of those knit with your partner classes, what do you think?  Because between
the two of us we got a lot of kids, um, but if you want more we would have
to do some research.  Not going in to it.  But don't you think our charming
personalities would be just the thing for a knitting class filled with lovey
dovey new in love couples?

And we would have ossem kids, with our personalities and all, and they would
be so pretty.

What a good idea, for real why did I get a circle instead of a square?

Katie

-----Original Message-----
From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Gabe Vega
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 9:16 PM
To: Blind Parents Mailing List
Subject: [blparent] Knitting Baby Booties

When I was younger, my grand mother use to nit all day. quilts, slippers,
and even end table doilies. she was highly skilled at what she did. can some
one explain to me how I can do this and learn the basics so, maybe the next
baby I have. with Katie maybe I can knit my own baby booties.
Gabe Vega - Sent from my MacbookAir
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Phone: (623) 565-9357

On Sep 7, 2012, at 6:06 PM, "Kate McEachern" <kflsouth at gmail.com> wrote:

> HERE'S AN IDEA, STOP BICKERING WITH SOME ONE WHO DOESN'T GIVE A DAM IF YOU
> LIKE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY!!  You know what I shouldn't have to yells at
an
> adult this crap is why I left before, not because of Gabe but because of a
> bunch of women who just won't stop till they think they have the last
word.
> There now, I'm done. Now don't waist time commenting to this because I am
> done with topic.  Some one please asks how to nit baby booties or
something
> that can't be turned in to a cat fight or an attack Gabe section.
> 
> Grow the hell up!
> Katie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Jo Elizabeth Pinto
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:28 PM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Whose rules should take precedence?
> 
> This list should be a safe and open forum where blind parents can discuss 
> things that are important to them, not a kindergarten class where people 
> have to be repeatedly asked not to call each other names.  Therefore, I 
> shouldn't have anything that I have to get over after a week, or at all.
> 
> Jo Elizabeth
> 
> I am somehow less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's 
> brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived
and 
> died in cotton fields and sweatshops.--Stephen Jay Gould
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Kate McEachern
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 6:24 PM
> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Whose rules should take precedence?
> 
> He just mentioned that she was responding to old messages, I don't see
that
> as starting something.  Maybe she didn't know they were a week old. Oh,
and
> seriously after a week you can't get over big Barny tuff girl?  A little
> thin skinned are we?  This time he didn't start anything I see. Get over
it.
> Katie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Jo Elizabeth Pinto
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 7:24 PM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Whose rules should take precedence?
> 
> I'm not quite over "big barny tough girl" or "cowers from confrontation"
> yet.  Sorry.  If you insist on personally attacking fellow list members,
you
> 
> have to realize it will take time for the hard feelings to wear off.
> Veronica was asking for common courtesy, which never goes out of style.
> I've said all I'm going to.
> 
> Jo Elizabeth
> 
> I am somehow less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's
> brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived
and
> died in cotton fields and sweatshops.--Stephen Jay Gould
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 4:59 PM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> Cc: Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] Whose rules should take precedence?
> 
> Seriously? Joe Elizabeth? You want to start again? You really can't leave
it
> 
> alone? Must you get the last word?
> 
> Gabe Vega
> Sent from my iPhone
> (623) 565-9357
> 
> On Sep 7, 2012, at 3:44 PM, "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com> wrote:
> 
>> Frankly, her remarks are still very applicable.  Thank you, Veronica.
>> 
>> Jo Elizabeth
>> 
>> I am somehow less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's
>> brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived
>> and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.--Stephen Jay Gould
>> -----Original Message----- From: Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S
>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 4:05 PM
>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Cc: Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Whose rules should take precedence?
>> 
>> Veronica, you are responding to seven day old messages. You are
responding
> 
>> to old messages that are over and done with. Please check the date of the
>> messages you're responding to, I think you're thinking I sent is recently
>> but these were sent a week ago
>> 
>> Gabe Vega
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> (623) 565-9357
>> 
>> On Sep 7, 2012, at 2:39 PM, "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Gabe, there you go again being hateful.  Keep those unkind remarks to
>>> yourself and stick with the topic.  I, for one, do not think it is off
>>> topic as we are talking parenting here.  And if I recall correctly, we
>>> all are blind parents. Right?
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
On
> 
>>> Behalf Of Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 10:12 PM
>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Cc: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Whose rules should take precedence?
>>> 
>>> grandmas house, grandmas rules. dont like it, dont go back. simple as
>>> that. and its still off topic. and blindies only get mistreated if they
>>> allow it. its funny how joe thinks she is a big barny tough girl on
list,
> 
>>> but in real life, she just like the rest who use this act. and cowars
>>> from confrontation because it on an email list and partially annonymous.
>>> :-)
>>> 
>>> Gabe Vega
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> (623) 565-9357
>>> 
>>> On Sep 2, 2012, at 8:55 PM, "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Actually, Gabe's text is at the bottom of the post. He said that
>>>> grandma's rules should apply.
>>>> 
>>>> Sorry, no one but me gets to decide what my kid eats, unless I'm not
>>>> around and that person has responsibility for my child. It was very
>>>> disrespectful of this woman to try to interpose herself in the
>>>> parent-child relationship.
>>>> 
>>>> And I do think this is blindness-related, because people tend to
>>>> infantilize blind adults. I wonder if this woman would have done the
>>>> same thing to a sighted parent.
>>>> 
>>>> As for what you can do now, you could calmly explain to her that you
>>>> make the rules for Sarah, and if she can respect that, then her
informal
> 
>>>> grandmother-type relationship can continue.
>>>> 
>>>> Best of luck.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate McEachern"
>>>> <kflsouth at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 11:37 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Whose rules should take precedence?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Gabe nothing is written here.
>>>>> Katie
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S"
>>>>> <theblindtech at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 11:31 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Whose rules should take precedence?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gabe Vega
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> (623) 565-9357
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 2, 2012, at 8:14 PM, "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I know this may not sound blindness related, but it kind of is in a
>>>>>>> way because my daughter's adopted Nanna tends to take over a lot
>>>>>>> instead of letting me be the mom.  She's been there all of my
>>>>>>> daughter's life, knitted her a blanket, kept her overnight, all the
>>>>>>> things a grandma loves to do.  I love her dearly.  But, frankly,
> she's
>>>>>>> pushy.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There was a situation that happened today while we were at her house
>>>>>>> for a barbecue.  A bunch of us from church had contributed food.My
>>>>>>> daughter had eaten a fairly balanced meal, so I wasn't worried about
>>>>>>> her nutrition.  When it came time for dessert, she chose to have a
>>>>>>> piece of carrot cake, which she promptly ate the frosting off of and
>>>>>>> then lost interest in.  Par for the course.  Then she asked Nanna
for
> 
>>>>>>> some lemon cake.  Lots of us were just having little smidges of each
>>>>>>> kind, so I was surprised when Nanna said no, there was still cake on
>>>>>>> her plate.  I could see it if she hadn't eaten dinner first, but she
>>>>>>> had, so I thought that was ridiculous.  Trying to keep the mood
>>>>>>> light, I reached over and took the cake off my daughter's dish, then
>>>>>>> said, "Okay, tell Nanna your plate's clean."  Nanna still refused to
>>>>>>> give her the lemon cake.  My daughter started to pitch a fit in true
>>>>>>> four-year-old fashion, screeching and waving her arms around.  Nanna
>>>>>>> told her to go sit on the stairs till she was ready to be fit
>>>>>>> company. I said no, she's my daughter and I'm in charge here.  Nanna
>>>>>>> told me, raising her voice, that we were in her house, so her rules
>>>>>>> came first. I said I didn't appreciate her yelling at me, and that
if
> 
>>>>>>> she wouldn't serve my daughter a slice of lemon cake, I would do it
>>>>>>> myself.  I guess Nanna's husband had gotten his fill by that time
>>>>>>> because he cut my daughter a slice of cake and gave it to her
without
> 
>>>>>>> saying anything.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I know that situation should ideally not have happened in front of
my
> 
>>>>>>> daughter, but it did.  I'm not looking for anybody to get on my
case,
> 
>>>>>>> but I'm interested in some answers from other blind parents.  Whose
>>>>>>> rules should have taken precedence?  Is there anything I can do
about
> 
>>>>>>> it now?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am somehow less interested in the weight and convolutions of
>>>>>>> Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal
>>>>>>> talent have lived and died in cotton fields and
>>>>>>> sweatshops.--Stephen Jay Gould
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>>>>>>> Grandma's house, grandma's rules. Yes I know she's your daughter,
and
> 
>>>>>>> if this was another strangers house your rules would stand. But in a
>>>>>>> normal house, with a grandma parent relationship grandmas house
>>>>>>> trumps all. It is her house, her roles, sorry you feel that way. Now
>>>>>>> you may always choose never to return to grandmas house, if you
don't
> 
>>>>>>> like the way grandma runs her house. But again, that is up to you.
>>>>>>> But this situation is all about respect, her grandma issued her
>>>>>>> decree, and you chose to try and overcome per. This is very
>>>>>>> disrespectful no matter what culture you're in, this will not stand
>>>>>>> in my house, and my daughters grandma would always overcut me as a
>>>>>>> sign of respect. Right or wrong. So please, take it for what it is
>>>>>>> take your losses and make a decision, you either like the other
>>>>>>> situations you have been with grandma, and this is a small think you
>>>>>>> could get over. Or you could choose to not like it, her, or any
>>>>>>> future situation, and just never return to her house. Very simple,
if
> 
>>>>>>> you ask me.
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