[blparent] Knitting Baby Booties

Sat Sep 8 03:11:39 UTC 2012

There is a Blind Krafters group that provides instruction via teleconference 
calls.  I'm told it works really well.  There are knitters, people doing 
crochet, quilters, and more.

Debbie

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kate McEachern" <kflsouth at gmail.com>
To: "'Blind Parents Mailing List'" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: [blparent] Knitting Baby Booties

>I tried to crochet once but instead of a square I got a circle.  Don't know
> what I did wrong.  Would like to try again. Hay Gabe maybe we can take one
> of those knit with your partner classes, what do you think?  Because 
> between
> the two of us we got a lot of kids, um, but if you want more we would have
> to do some research.  Not going in to it.  But don't you think our 
> charming
> personalities would be just the thing for a knitting class filled with 
> lovey
> dovey new in love couples?
>
> And we would have ossem kids, with our personalities and all, and they 
> would
> be so pretty.
>
> What a good idea, for real why did I get a circle instead of a square?
>
> Katie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Gabe Vega
> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 9:16 PM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: [blparent] Knitting Baby Booties
>
> When I was younger, my grand mother use to nit all day. quilts, slippers,
> and even end table doilies. she was highly skilled at what she did. can 
> some
> one explain to me how I can do this and learn the basics so, maybe the 
> next
> baby I have. with Katie maybe I can knit my own baby booties.
> Gabe Vega - Sent from my MacbookAir
> Blog: http://thebt.net
> iMessage/Email: theblindtech at gmail.com
> Phone: (623) 565-9357
>
> On Sep 7, 2012, at 6:06 PM, "Kate McEachern" <kflsouth at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> HERE'S AN IDEA, STOP BICKERING WITH SOME ONE WHO DOESN'T GIVE A DAM IF 
>> YOU
>> LIKE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY!!  You know what I shouldn't have to yells at
> an
>> adult this crap is why I left before, not because of Gabe but because of 
>> a
>> bunch of women who just won't stop till they think they have the last
> word.
>> There now, I'm done. Now don't waist time commenting to this because I am
>> done with topic.  Some one please asks how to nit baby booties or
> something
>> that can't be turned in to a cat fight or an attack Gabe section.
>>
>> Grow the hell up!
>> Katie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jo Elizabeth Pinto
>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 8:28 PM
>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Whose rules should take precedence?
>>
>> This list should be a safe and open forum where blind parents can discuss
>> things that are important to them, not a kindergarten class where people
>> have to be repeatedly asked not to call each other names.  Therefore, I
>> shouldn't have anything that I have to get over after a week, or at all.
>>
>> Jo Elizabeth
>>
>> I am somehow less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's
>> brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived
> and
>> died in cotton fields and sweatshops.--Stephen Jay Gould
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Kate McEachern
>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 6:24 PM
>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Whose rules should take precedence?
>>
>> He just mentioned that she was responding to old messages, I don't see
> that
>> as starting something.  Maybe she didn't know they were a week old. Oh,
> and
>> seriously after a week you can't get over big Barny tuff girl?  A little
>> thin skinned are we?  This time he didn't start anything I see. Get over
> it.
>> Katie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Jo Elizabeth Pinto
>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 7:24 PM
>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Whose rules should take precedence?
>>
>> I'm not quite over "big barny tough girl" or "cowers from confrontation"
>> yet.  Sorry.  If you insist on personally attacking fellow list members,
> you
>>
>> have to realize it will take time for the hard feelings to wear off.
>> Veronica was asking for common courtesy, which never goes out of style.
>> I've said all I'm going to.
>>
>> Jo Elizabeth
>>
>> I am somehow less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein's
>> brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived
> and
>> died in cotton fields and sweatshops.--Stephen Jay Gould
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S
>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 4:59 PM
>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Cc: Blind Parents Mailing List
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Whose rules should take precedence?
>>
>> Seriously? Joe Elizabeth? You want to start again? You really can't leave
> it
>>
>> alone? Must you get the last word?
>>
>> Gabe Vega
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> (623) 565-9357
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2012, at 3:44 PM, "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Frankly, her remarks are still very applicable.  Thank you, Veronica.
>>>
>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>
>>> I am somehow less interested in the weight and convolutions of 
>>> Einstein's
>>> brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived
>>> and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.--Stephen Jay Gould
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S
>>> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 4:05 PM
>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Cc: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Whose rules should take precedence?
>>>
>>> Veronica, you are responding to seven day old messages. You are
> responding
>>
>>> to old messages that are over and done with. Please check the date of 
>>> the
>>> messages you're responding to, I think you're thinking I sent is 
>>> recently
>>> but these were sent a week ago
>>>
>>> Gabe Vega
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> (623) 565-9357
>>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2012, at 2:39 PM, "Veronica Smith" <madison_tewe at spinn.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gabe, there you go again being hateful.  Keep those unkind remarks to
>>>> yourself and stick with the topic.  I, for one, do not think it is off
>>>> topic as we are talking parenting here.  And if I recall correctly, we
>>>> all are blind parents. Right?
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
>>
>>>> Behalf Of Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 10:12 PM
>>>> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>> Cc: Blind Parents Mailing List
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Whose rules should take precedence?
>>>>
>>>> grandmas house, grandmas rules. dont like it, dont go back. simple as
>>>> that. and its still off topic. and blindies only get mistreated if they
>>>> allow it. its funny how joe thinks she is a big barny tough girl on
> list,
>>
>>>> but in real life, she just like the rest who use this act. and cowars
>>>> from confrontation because it on an email list and partially 
>>>> annonymous.
>>>> :-)
>>>>
>>>> Gabe Vega
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> (623) 565-9357
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 2, 2012, at 8:55 PM, "Angie Matney" <angie.matney at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Actually, Gabe's text is at the bottom of the post. He said that
>>>>> grandma's rules should apply.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, no one but me gets to decide what my kid eats, unless I'm not
>>>>> around and that person has responsibility for my child. It was very
>>>>> disrespectful of this woman to try to interpose herself in the
>>>>> parent-child relationship.
>>>>>
>>>>> And I do think this is blindness-related, because people tend to
>>>>> infantilize blind adults. I wonder if this woman would have done the
>>>>> same thing to a sighted parent.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for what you can do now, you could calmly explain to her that you
>>>>> make the rules for Sarah, and if she can respect that, then her
> informal
>>
>>>>> grandmother-type relationship can continue.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best of luck.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kate McEachern"
>>>>> <kflsouth at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 11:37 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Whose rules should take precedence?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gabe nothing is written here.
>>>>>> Katie
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabe Vega Via Iphone4S"
>>>>>> <theblindtech at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: "NFBnet Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 11:31 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] Whose rules should take precedence?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gabe Vega
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> (623) 565-9357
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 2, 2012, at 8:14 PM, "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know this may not sound blindness related, but it kind of is in a
>>>>>>>> way because my daughter's adopted Nanna tends to take over a lot
>>>>>>>> instead of letting me be the mom.  She's been there all of my
>>>>>>>> daughter's life, knitted her a blanket, kept her overnight, all the
>>>>>>>> things a grandma loves to do.  I love her dearly.  But, frankly,
>> she's
>>>>>>>> pushy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There was a situation that happened today while we were at her 
>>>>>>>> house
>>>>>>>> for a barbecue.  A bunch of us from church had contributed food.My
>>>>>>>> daughter had eaten a fairly balanced meal, so I wasn't worried 
>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>> her nutrition.  When it came time for dessert, she chose to have a
>>>>>>>> piece of carrot cake, which she promptly ate the frosting off of 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> then lost interest in.  Par for the course.  Then she asked Nanna
> for
>>
>>>>>>>> some lemon cake.  Lots of us were just having little smidges of 
>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>> kind, so I was surprised when Nanna said no, there was still cake 
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> her plate.  I could see it if she hadn't eaten dinner first, but 
>>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>>> had, so I thought that was ridiculous.  Trying to keep the mood
>>>>>>>> light, I reached over and took the cake off my daughter's dish, 
>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>> said, "Okay, tell Nanna your plate's clean."  Nanna still refused 
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> give her the lemon cake.  My daughter started to pitch a fit in 
>>>>>>>> true
>>>>>>>> four-year-old fashion, screeching and waving her arms around. 
>>>>>>>> Nanna
>>>>>>>> told her to go sit on the stairs till she was ready to be fit
>>>>>>>> company. I said no, she's my daughter and I'm in charge here. 
>>>>>>>> Nanna
>>>>>>>> told me, raising her voice, that we were in her house, so her rules
>>>>>>>> came first. I said I didn't appreciate her yelling at me, and that
> if
>>
>>>>>>>> she wouldn't serve my daughter a slice of lemon cake, I would do it
>>>>>>>> myself.  I guess Nanna's husband had gotten his fill by that time
>>>>>>>> because he cut my daughter a slice of cake and gave it to her
> without
>>
>>>>>>>> saying anything.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know that situation should ideally not have happened in front of
> my
>>
>>>>>>>> daughter, but it did.  I'm not looking for anybody to get on my
> case,
>>
>>>>>>>> but I'm interested in some answers from other blind parents.  Whose
>>>>>>>> rules should have taken precedence?  Is there anything I can do
> about
>>
>>>>>>>> it now?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jo Elizabeth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am somehow less interested in the weight and convolutions of
>>>>>>>> Einstein's brain than in the near certainty that people of equal
>>>>>>>> talent have lived and died in cotton fields and
>>>>>>>> sweatshops.--Stephen Jay Gould
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>>>>>>>> Grandma's house, grandma's rules. Yes I know she's your daughter,
> and
>>
>>>>>>>> if this was another strangers house your rules would stand. But in 
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> normal house, with a grandma parent relationship grandmas house
>>>>>>>> trumps all. It is her house, her roles, sorry you feel that way. 
>>>>>>>> Now
>>>>>>>> you may always choose never to return to grandmas house, if you
> don't
>>
>>>>>>>> like the way grandma runs her house. But again, that is up to you.
>>>>>>>> But this situation is all about respect, her grandma issued her
>>>>>>>> decree, and you chose to try and overcome per. This is very
>>>>>>>> disrespectful no matter what culture you're in, this will not stand
>>>>>>>> in my house, and my daughters grandma would always overcut me as a
>>>>>>>> sign of respect. Right or wrong. So please, take it for what it is
>>>>>>>> take your losses and make a decision, you either like the other
>>>>>>>> situations you have been with grandma, and this is a small think 
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> could get over. Or you could choose to not like it, her, or any
>>>>>>>> future situation, and just never return to her house. Very simple,
> if
>>
>>>>>>>> you ask me.
>>>>>>>
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