[blparent] update on our lives.
Jo Elizabeth Pinto
jopinto at msn.com
Thu Jan 31 19:21:21 UTC 2013
Don't start that again. Just don't. I'm working right now, proofreading a
novel for a braille production house out of Philadelphia. You have no way
to know what I do or don't do, so keep your remarks about my personal life
to yourself, please.
Jo Elizabeth
Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may
kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at
evening.--Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
-----Original Message-----
From: Gabe Vega
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 12:17 PM
To: Blind Parents Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blparent] update on our lives.
now lets be honest here dear, you don't work.
Gabe Vega
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On Jan 31, 2013, at 12:13 PM, "Jo Elizabeth Pinto" <jopinto at msn.com> wrote:
> Of course not. That's a stupid comment. I work and raise my daughter,
> I've changed plenty of nasty diapers and cleaned up my body weight in
> barf. Shannon never said she denied her son anything. She just said it
> was unsavory, which I'm sure it is. Most people will deal with body
> fluids and solids as they have to, but I don't know anybody who likes it.
> And you can't say she's complained about every little thing when she
> hasn't even posted for eons.
>
> Jo Elizabeth
>
> Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay, you may
> kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at
> evening.--Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
> -----Original Message----- From: Gabe Vega
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:58 AM
> To: Blind Parents Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [blparent] update on our lives.
>
> not it at all. its just that those of us who live life, while working and
> raising our kids, some times even as a single parent. don't sit here and
> complain about the littlest things. there is nothing wrong with changing
> your own kids no matter how big they get. 2 months or 4 years. if they
> need changing and they can't do it themselves, who are we as parents to
> deny them the help? so if your daughter/son, threw up all over you when
> they had the flue, would you get mad at them? make them clean up their own
> Barf?
> Gabe Vega
> CEO
> Commtech LLC
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> Phone: (623) 565-9357
>
> On Jan 31, 2013, at 11:35 AM, "Dianna Alley" <dianna24 at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Well it is disgusting I mean we love our kids but as they get older it
>> gets harder to change and nastier that does not mean she has an issue
>> with her child or his body. He should be trained by now accept for maybe
>> an accident or two. I think some of you all just like to find issue with
>> people.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gabe Vega" <theblindtech at gmail.com>
>> To: "Blind Parents Mailing List" <blparent at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 12:19 PM
>> Subject: Re: [blparent] update on our lives.
>>
>>
>>> I'll be honest, I kind of scratched my head in wonder about that
>>> statement as well, about her not liking changing her son. yes, I
>>> understand he's big, and yes I understand the potential underlining
>>> issues, but, just weird to here a mother say that. thats all.
>>> Gabe Vega
>>> CEO
>>> Commtech LLC
>>> Web: http://commtechusa.net
>>> FaceBook: http://facebook.com/commtechllc
>>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/commtechllc
>>> Email: info at commtechusa.net
>>> Phone: (623) 565-9357
>>>
>>> On Jan 31, 2013, at 8:09 AM, "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)"
>>> <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Shannon,
>>>> I'm concerned when you say you are disgusted by your son's diapers.
>>>> You're his mother and of all people his body shouldn't disgust you.
>>>> I get that you wish he'd be potty trained already. I get that he's
>>>> probably produced some nasty poops. What I don't get is continual
>>>> disgust. I would understand if you said "Wow that diaper sure was
>>>> gross" or "that poop should go into the toxic waste disposal system"
>>>> but not continual disgust.
>>>>
>>>> I'm wondering if some of your disgust is due to other issues, or if you
>>>> haven't learned techniques to deal with his diapers effectively. You
>>>> say your vision is very limited. I'm wondering if you thought "My kid
>>>> will be out of diapers, I don't need to even think about how to change
>>>> a diaper and not see while I do it".
>>>> You have many other issues in your post. Your sitter needs to go if
>>>> she's not behaving appropriately. Don't excuse her behavior. Your son
>>>> will learn boundaries, though his boundaries may not be boundaries you
>>>> like. That's ok, he's his own person. Convey to him that he can always
>>>> tell somebody to stop what they are doing, and that you will always
>>>> have his back. You won't convey this if you view his body as a
>>>> disgusting thing that you shouldn't have to deal with.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Jennifer Jackson
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 12:10 AM
>>>> To: 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
>>>> Subject: Re: [blparent] update on our lives.
>>>>
>>>> I think it is time to get a doctor involved. The toileting thing by
>>>> itself
>>>> should be addressed because something is wrong. You can not move
>>>> forward
>>>> with any kind of training or addressing it from an emotional or
>>>> psychological stand point until you rule out some kind of physical
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> Please also talk to your doctor about getting a developmental
>>>> evaluation for
>>>> your son. I know my youngest son's audiologist has been using the
>>>> blocks in
>>>> the bucket with his testing since he was about two. I do not want to
>>>> worry
>>>> you, but you should move forward on this right away. Developmental
>>>> problems
>>>> are most easy to address with younger children.
>>>>
>>>> I do have a thought on making living with the current toileting
>>>> situation
>>>> easier to live with though. Perhaps you could routinely spend some time
>>>> with
>>>> him just sitting on the toilet several times a day. Maybe singing or
>>>> listening to music to entertain him? If he goes in the toilet that is
>>>> an
>>>> extra blessing because it is one less mess for someone else to clean
>>>> up. A
>>>> little time learning to relax on the toilet may also encourage him to
>>>> physically relax and be able to go. My thought is that whatever the
>>>> problem
>>>> is that is keeping him from becoming trained, this kind of routine will
>>>> aid
>>>> the situation. If you know what time he normally goes in his pull up
>>>> then
>>>> try to do this around that same time with the idea of perhaps
>>>> preventing
>>>> having to clean it yourself.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jennifer
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>> Shannan
>>>> Zinck
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2013 5:50 PM
>>>> To: blparent at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [blparent] update on our lives.
>>>>
>>>> Hi all, it's been a long time. due to the condition with my eye (which
>>>> is
>>>> still ongoing) I have had to really limit my computer time as I use
>>>> large
>>>> print and not screen readers though if this goes on much longer I may
>>>> have
>>>> to consider that possibility just to keep in touch. Anyway a couple
>>>> questions.
>>>>
>>>> I'm wondering if anyone has struggled with a much older child with
>>>> potty
>>>> training. Myles just turned 4 yesterday and is still not trained. We
>>>> thought originally that he might just be stubborn but, now I'm not so
>>>> sure.
>>>> Though he is strong willed he does listen pretty good to us. He can be
>>>> playing along like nothing is happening and all of a sudden he'll tell
>>>> me
>>>> he peed but, that's only when his pullup is full and I mean leaking and
>>>> running down his leg full. He can have several pees and not even notice
>>>> and
>>>> same with BM's he doesn't stop for those either. He knows how to use
>>>> the
>>>> toilet and even goes in by himself quite often but, really it's hit and
>>>> miss even with a half hourly schedule. He says he can't tell if he
>>>> needs to
>>>> go or not and up until today I didn't believe him but, When he lies he
>>>> changes his story constantly so he's easy to catch. He maintains the
>>>> same
>>>> story when it comes to knowing when he needs to go or not and say he
>>>> doesn't know. I never know when he's going in his pants and he is a
>>>> major
>>>> people person so is in my space all the time so he is rarely in a
>>>> different
>>>> room then either his father or myself. We've been working on potty
>>>> training
>>>> for over 2 years now and recently even have been making him change his
>>>> own
>>>> pullup when wet. We thought this tactic would encourage him to try
>>>> harder
>>>> but no dice. # 2 he has never tried on the toilet and no future
>>>> prospect
>>>> is in sight for that. I'm beginning to get quite concerned given his
>>>> age. I
>>>> know physically he is a bit behind due to the drugs in his system at
>>>> birth
>>>> but, not enough to cause concern. He always catches up. However at his
>>>> age
>>>> we are getting to the place where babysitters are pretty much
>>>> impossible to
>>>> get because he is huge to begin with and no one wants to change a kid
>>>> that
>>>> age and size. He's 4 like I said and is over 3 feet tall weighing well
>>>> over
>>>> 40lbs. I can't stand changing him and I'm his mom so I can just imagine
>>>> how
>>>> a sitter would feel. When there is a medical issue it's easy to explain
>>>> it
>>>> but, when there's such a gray area to what could be wrong it's not so
>>>> simple. I'm just plain discouraged and confused. I'm wondering if it's
>>>> time
>>>> to get a doctor involved or just wait it out and see if the slow
>>>> development is the problem. I'd hate to push the issue only to find out
>>>> later that there was something wrong but, if it's just laziness on his
>>>> part
>>>> fd hat to let it go. He can't even get involved in group activities yet
>>>> because he's not trained, it's down right embarrassing. You know it's
>>>> funny
>>>> that before I had kids of my own I swore I'd never have a child who
>>>> wasn't
>>>> trained by the time they were 2 and now look at us. For all the parents
>>>> who
>>>> struggle with or have struggled with this issue I apologize whole
>>>> heartedly. I realize now that you can't choose what life will bring you
>>>> all
>>>> you can do is work through it. Part of this is because with my eye
>>>> problems
>>>> as bad as they have been we decided for a short while to let training
>>>> go
>>>> because I am so limited in what I can do right now but, that lovely
>>>> issue
>>>> has been going on so long almost 2 years now that we can no longer just
>>>> leave it alone. This past year has been a strange one for sure.
>>>> Also today we discovered that he seems to struggle with putting 2 and 2
>>>> together. figuring out simple concepts so we wonder if that has
>>>> something
>>>> to do with potty training as well. We took him for a hearing test and
>>>> he
>>>> can hear fine however when asked to put blocks into a bucket whenever
>>>> he
>>>> heard a beep he couldn't do it for some reason. he wanted to and when I
>>>> did
>>>> it with him he did it fine but, when doing it himself he couldn't. When
>>>> the
>>>> doc asked him if he heard the beeps he said yes but, the blocks never
>>>> went
>>>> into the bucket. He knew he had to put them in the bucket and he knew
>>>> he
>>>> could hear the sounds but, he couldn't put the 2 things together unless
>>>> some one was doing it with him which isn't a true test since he was
>>>> copying
>>>> me. Now he has to go back again in a few months. I would have thought
>>>> at
>>>> his age he'd have been able to figure out how the do this. I'm
>>>> wondering
>>>> what kids at his age should know how to do. average kids that is. It's
>>>> been
>>>> a long few months though I finally have a follow up appointment for my
>>>> eye
>>>> and am hoping they will finally tell me when they will get around to
>>>> removing it. About the babysitter thing also I'm concerned about
>>>> privacy.
>>>> He is older now and though he is not trained I not so sure about how
>>>> comfortable I am with babysitters changing him. Maybe I'm being
>>>> paranoid
>>>> but, he is my son and I want to protect him. We are very careful about
>>>> who
>>>> babysits but, some people have different boundaries then others He's
>>>> getting to an age where he needs to understand boundaries and that hard
>>>> to
>>>> do when everyone who looks after him has to change his butt. One of the
>>>> only sitters we have due to his age that is willing does things that
>>>> make
>>>> me uncomfortable. She isn't intentionally doing wrong things and
>>>> nothing
>>>> alarming just concerning like the way she tickles him and things like
>>>> that.
>>>> She has little concept of proper boundaries and I'm not sure how to
>>>> deal
>>>> with this. She's the only sitter I've got yet I'm not so sure she's
>>>> good
>>>> for him. Don't get me wrong she not molesting him or anything like that
>>>> she's too childlike herself for that but, she is too touchy feely and
>>>> clingy for my liking. Just so you are aware I'm a VERY private person
>>>> overly so, so some of this could be my own paranoia as well but, I'm
>>>> having
>>>> a hard time discerning this situation. I'm not willing to have my son
>>>> put
>>>> in harms way so I am really stomped on what to do here. I've expressed
>>>> this
>>>> to my husband and he isn't sure what to do either. She is 23 but, seems
>>>> to
>>>> act like a 14 year old. not very mature at all. any ideas sorry for the
>>>> book it's been a while. I'll try to keep in touch better.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Shannan Zinck
>>>> Survival is letting GOD take over!!!
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