[blparent] New guide Dog.

Judy Jones jtj1 at cableone.net
Tue Oct 21 01:29:25 UTC 2014 

Very well put.

I remember coming home with my second guide dog.  Our eldest was only 2 
then, and shortly after we got home in mid-winter, she decided that this was 
the perfect time window for potty training.

My new dog had lived in Phoenix Arizona, so was obviously not used to the 2 
feet of snow on the ground at that time.  I spent three months, more or 
less, placing my 2-year-old on the potty, and she was asking quite a bit. 
But also, needing to take new puppy to relieve outside and get used to leash 
relieving in snow, another form of potty training, you might say.

After placing my daughter on her potty, would take New-Dog out to relieve, 
as many times both needed simultaneous attention.

But after a minute, I would tie New-Dog down temporarily outside.  Go inside 
and check on my daughter, then back outside to check on New-Dog, then bring 
her in.

Like I say, this simultaneous time window was only maybe about three months, 
but lots of back and forth during inclement weather.

Judy

-----Original Message----- 
From: Star Gazer via blparent
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 8:43 AM
To: 'Briley O'Connor' ; 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blparent] New guide Dog.

One of the hardest parts of having a guide dog is the window when the baby 
is mobile but cannot understand language. They don't have a clue what you're 
telling them to do. So things like "touch gently" or "come towards me" are 
ignored. You can of course show the baby what you mean. That takes time and 
it doesn't help if you are trying to put something in the oven and the baby 
is interacting with the dog in a way that is inappropriate or unacceptable.
You also have to figure out how you'll balance things like the baby needs to 
be rocked but the dog needs to go out. Or you've finally gotten to sleep 
after being up a good chunk of the night and the dog needs to go out.
I got one of the worst colds of my life after my first daughter was born 
trying to manage this aspect. The birth was vaginal and that matters because 
I didn't take proper care of myself. After all, babies have been coming out 
that way forever and that's how Mother Nature designed it.

You'll need to think of what you'll do with your dog if you attend story 
time and other baby events where babies are encouraged to crawl around 
freely.
You'll need to decide if you want to expose your children to access issues 
that you just don't get with a cane. Yes is an ok answer, I chose to answer 
that with a no.

You can certainly get a guide dog and be successful. You just need to 
understand that it isn't a cane only better.

I appreciate that this question was asked and everyone’s insights. I, too, 
am a guide dog user and he’s likely going to retire in the next 2 years. I 
love using a dog but wasn’t sure how people handled baby and a new dog. I 
imagined though it would be a challenge and see the wisdom in waiting a few 
years.

Briley
On Oct 19, 2014, at 4:46 PM, Judy Jones via blparent <blparent at nfbnet.org> 
wrote:

Very good insight.

I have had four guide dogs, and all during our kids growing years.  The 
intensity in  changes in bringing New Dog home and everyone getting 
acclimated are not unlike thos faced by bringing a new baby home.  Both take 
time, forethought and planning.  To be able to accurately answer this 
question, it would be helpful to kknow what is driving this train.

Judy


-----Original Message----- From: Star Gazer via blparent
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 2:37 PM
To: 'Kaila Allen' ; 'Blind Parents Mailing List'
Subject: Re: [blparent] New guide Dog.

What exactly are you thinking about?
I've used two dogs and I use a cane now. There are pros and cons and you 
need to be aware of them.
It's my belief and experience that the guide dog model is a very masculine 
model. It doesn't account for the demands of pregnancy, newborns and young 
children. You can work around this, just as you can work around anything.
You'll have to decide if that's what you want, what impact it will have on 
your family and if that's how you and your family want to spend time money 
and energy.
I've told many people that having a new baby is way easier then adjusting to 
a guide dog. People "get" babies even if they differ on the best way to 
handle them. Very few people "get" guide dogs. They expect perfection and 
that expectation is based on them and what they think they know and has very 
little to do with reality.


-----Original Message-----
From: blparent [mailto:blparent-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kaila Allen 
via blparent
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 7:51 PM
To: Shelby Young; Blind Parents Mailing List
Subject: Re: [blparent] New guide Dog.

I have been thinking about getting a guy dog can you guys give me a couple 
of the pros and cons to having a guy dog with children my kids are four and 
six thank you guys

Princess Kaila
The true meaning of life is to plant trees under whose shade you do not 
expect to sit Nelson G Henderson


> On Sep 10, 2014, at 4:39 PM, Shelby Young via blparent
<blparent at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Good luck with your next dog! It is so nice having her.
> Shelby
>
>
>> On Sep 10, 2014, at 3:53 PM, Jo Elizabeth Pinto <jopinto at msn.com> wrote:
>>
>> Good luck and happy travels.  I leave Sunday for GDB in Oregon, where
>> I
will train with my third guide dog.  I have a six-year-old who isn't looking 
forward to my leaving, but she can't wait to meet my new guide dog when I 
return.
>>
>> Jo Elizabeth
>>
>> Truth is tough. It will not break, like a bubble, at a touch; nay,
>> you
may kick it about all day like a football, and it will be round and full at 
evening.--Oliver Wendell Holmes, Sr.
>> -----Original Message----- From: Shelby Young via blparent
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 2:14 PM
>> To: Blind
>> Subject: [blparent] New guide Dog.
>>
>> Hello all,
>> I recently returned from Leader Dogs for the Blind with my first dog.
>> Her
name is Jackie and she is a 17 month old black lab golden cross.
>> Things are going pretty well. Jackie and Jaxcen already love each other.
Jaxcen is two years old and thinks she should play with whatever he has. :)
>> Right now I put him in my Ergo on my back and we go. If any of you
>> have
different siggestions of how to travel with a toddler and a guide dog please 
let me know.
>> Best regards
>> Shelby
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