[Cabs-talk] Reality is not a rumor
Bruce Sexton Jr.
bjsexton at comcast.net
Tue Aug 11 18:35:58 UTC 2009
Dear Tina and List,
I cannot speak for Deepa, but last year CABS did have a nominating
committee. I strongly suspect that Deepa will appoint one this year as
well. I think everyone is correct, the finger pointing is not helping.
Emotions get high sometimes and things get a little out of hand. A truths
has been made between Mike and myself. He and I have spoken privately and
things between us are copasetic. I have the upmost respect for Michael and
Terra.
Thanks to all of you who are CABS supporters and who are looking out for its
best interest! The well-being of students, who need our help and support,
are the most important to CABS, and our focus needs to be with them! I am
pleased with the way in which Angela has dealt with this, and I know, that
she will be an excellent candidate for any position for which she may choose
to run.
Sincerely Yours,
B.J. Sexton
----- Original Message -----
From: "tina thomas " <tinadt at sbcglobal.net>
To: "'California Association of Blind Students Mailing List'"
<cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
> Hello Angela- I agree with you. Let's stop all of the bickering and finger
> pointing and do the work that I know that CABS is capable of. Also, I
> would
> like to make a suggestion concerning the election. I think that with all
> of
> the issues surrounding CABS upcoming election that CABS should consider
> having A nominating committee. I just don't want to see CABS go through
> the
> same problems with the election process as NABS did at our national
> convention. NABS might have been better off if they did have a nominating
> committee. Just some food for thought. Tina
> Senior CABS member
>
>
> "Trust your own instinct. Your mistakes might as well be your own instead
> of
> someone else's."
> - Billy Wilder
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cabs-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:cabs-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Angela fowler
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 10:21 PM
> To: 'California Association of Blind Students Mailing List'
> Subject: Re: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>
> Darien's right, we have made a lot of progress. We are coming off a river
> rafting trip which was a smashing success. We had a couple of fund raisers
> at national convention which brought some much-needed revenue into the
> organization. The current leadership is doing a tremendous job mentoring
> and
> preparing those who would potentially succeed them. CABS has come a long
> way
> just in the few months I've been involved, and we've just begun. We've
> only
> just scratched the surface of the things we're capable of if all the good
> folks in this division combine our effort and our determination, our
> skills
> and our talents, our drive and ambition, our ideas and our vision, all for
> one purpose, bettering the lives of blind students in California! That is
> what we're here for, when you get right down to it. Come on folks! Let's
> stop this squabbling and get to work on the things which are really
> important! I don't need to tell you what the Braille literacy rate is.
> Programs effecting blind students are being drastically altered do to the
> budget crisis in this state. More importantly however, there is still the
> prevailing ignorance among blind and sighted people alike of our true
> capabilities; that ever-pervasive prejudice which says "you can't see,
> therefore you can't,"... Fill in the blank. My friends, these things must
> be
> changed! The California Association of Blind Students has work to do! Its
> time we put our internal differences aside and started getting it done!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cabs-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:cabs-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On
> Behalf Of Darian Smith
> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 9:58 PM
> To: California Association of Blind Students Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>
> It seems as if we're not all perfect, yet, but that's alright. It
> sounds as if cabs has made great progress over the past five years and
> the idea, the hope is that the division continues to do so. in the
> next few months, I hope that we all prepare for whatever changes may come
> about in whatever way we have to. It's not a bad idea to look at where we
> have fallen short, butn it sounds to me as if we have alot to look foward
> to.
>
> I'm a little excited
>
> On 8/10/09, Michael Peterson <its_mike at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> Thanks Bruce. Regarding missing meetings if your speaking of
>> Terra she may have missed one not certain that's something she could
>> discuss if she chose.
>> Iregardless handing large amounts of cash rather than just switching
>> banksand having someone keep the money in a safe from october until
>> February when the money order was sent isn't responsible.
>> I know she went to the bank several times but they wouldn't accept the
>> account until certain paperwork was compleeted they included the
>> minutes and maybe the constitution this stuff should have been
>> submitted much sooner. The hold up is it required the signatures of
>> certain specific officers.
>>
>> I don't recall anyone suggesting you specifically ask Terra to forge
>> anything and so far as I know you did not.
>> If you didn't do it most likely you wouldn't be a party to the
> suggestion.
>> I having spent time with you don't think you would ever ask anyone to
>> forge a signature.
>>
>> I know of at least a couple of times meetings were called and at the
>> last minute canceled because something came up so maybe between the
>> canceled ones and the one Terra may have missedthat means she wasn't
>> at a lot of meetings. Apparently Deepa canceled those meetings
>> because people couldn't be there, but the sunday meetings weren't
>> delayed or anything to acomodate Terra's needs.
>> Unfortunately sometimes she is way to soft sspoken.
>> you often started the meetings at 6:30 or so Sunday evening so Terra
>> couldn't be right on time because she was just getting out of church.
>> She told you this at the beginning it wasn't a surprise.
>>
>> Church ended at about 6:45 or 7:00 in fact sometimes we were even at
>> church or on the way home in our friends van when she called in.
>> So planning meetings at that time
>> would cause her to be a little late.
>>
>> As for the need for the retreats I apreciate your point of view.
>> Maybe one could be justified probably not more than that.
>> I won't get more involved in the why and the why nots as I think we
>> both will vote for the same people and basically we are both on the
>> same page.
>> I am hopeful that the candidates we both support will do an excellent
>> job and there is no one serving now I would be unhappy with despite
>> my criticisms of past events.
>> Hopefully together we can and will work to grow this division.
>> Grants are nice but holding the legislatures attention in addition
>> to grants i s even nicer especially when laws are changed and progress
>> is made in California for all blind students like books that are
>> accessible and funding for those who want to attend universities
>> instead of requiring them to start out on the junior college level
>> just because it's cheaper.
>>
>> Perhaps I should've not said anything.
>> But I did. I can promise you Terra wouldn't have.
>> again pardon the email formating it's not letting me proof.
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bruce Sexton Jr." <bjsexton at comcast.net>
>> To: "California Association of Blind Students Mailing List"
>> <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 6:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>
>>
>>> Mike,
>>>
>>> Thank you for bringing your concerns forward. I only wish you would
>>> have brought them forward earlier. I never knew that anyone was
>>> asked to forge
>>>
>>> signatures. Concerning having cash in one location outside of the
>>> bank, perhaps Deepa can better explain that, but from my point of
>>> view, there were IRS issues that CABS had to work through as well as
> banking issues.
>>> Everything was well documented in our minutes. If anyone wants to
>>> see our
>>>
>>> minutes they are welcome to them. As for retreats, we were following
>>> the NABS model who were able to get many more things accomplished in
>>> person then over the phone. Much of what was done in the retreat was
>>> internal housekeeping and paperwork kinds of issues. We created a
>>> strategic plan that helped to organize our spreadsheets, member
>>> contacts, minutes and other documents into one place. It allowed us
>>> to make plans that helped to build our organization from a simple one
>>> to a more complex one. That is, we are now prepared to present
>>> organizations with a donation request letter, we have a letter of
> introduction to CABS for recruitment purposes.
>>>
>>> We created and established our committees which have done some
>>> amazing work. In the retreat we also established a strategic plan
>>> that would guide the organization towards future generations.
>>>
>>> Spending two days on a phone would not have allowed us to accomplish
>>> these
>>>
>>> things. We only have so much time while on a conference call. While
>>> in person, we were able to spend many hours planning and organizing
>>> ourselves
>>>
>>> so that the next administration would not have to do as much to
>>> re-invent the wheel. One of the major problems that student
>>> divisions have is continuity and transition. I cannot express in
>>> enough detail what was accomplished in those retreats, but I do know
>>> that we could not have done all that we did over the phone, as we did
>>> in a short weekend. There are just some things that having folks in
> person, makes a huge difference.
>>> Otherwise, National and State conventions could be held over
>>> telecommunications or webcasts.
>>>
>>> I would be happy to talk to anyone who has concerns about how CABS
>>> was run
>>>
>>> in the past five years. It seems awfully sad to me that I am only
>>> now hearing that there were concerns as deep as yours, that which
>>> were never brought to our attention.
>>>
>>> I wish everyone well.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> B.J.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Michael Peterson" <its_mike at sbcglobal.net>
>>> To: "California Association of Blind Students Mailing List"
>>> <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 3:27 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Darian a conference call is a good idea. In order for that to
>>>> work well first an anouncement needs to be sent explaining exactly
>>>> which offices are open.
>>>> Than Someone needs to collect names of those who are interested in
>>>> each position.
>>>> The call needs to be set up at a time when all the candidates can
>>>> attend and it should be set up during a time students can attend.
>>>> I personally don't like Sunday because I have other committments and
>>>> often can't get to meetings held that day especially evening ones.
>>>> Saturday or a week night except wednesday usually works better for me.
>>>> I don't think a huge rift exists in the division although people
>>>> have opinions on how things can and should be done.
>>>> I also think though some folks say they don't want to serve with one
>>>> candidate or the other many times that too can be worked out.
>>>> Sometimes we have disagreements over things and people feel put on
>>>> the defensive. For example, and this is just my personal opinion, I
>>>> don't have any problem with Bruce Deepa or anyone else and am happy
>>>> working with them to the best of my ability.
>>>> But I do have a difference of opinion.
>>>> During the last few years the student division CABS has financed
>>>> retreats for the board members which cost significant amounts of
>>>> money to fly people arround the state.
>>>> As a result those moneys weren't spent doing things like recruiting
>>>> students and I think those board meetings could have been held as
>>>> well via telephone.
>>>> In fact the board unity could have been established the same way
>>>> flying board members to conduct these seminars.
>>>> Also in my view the treasury wasn't handled well. When Terra(My
>>>> wife) was treasurer she was ask to forge signatures and money was
>>>> held in our safe cash money for several months.I think until
>>>> February just before the last retreat in fact,
>>>>
>>>> I can definitely say during my administration that wouldn't have
>>>> been permitted.
>>>> Money needs to be kept in the bank at all times and accounted for
>>>> because we are at risk of government problems if it's not not just
>>>> problems for the CABS but also for the State affiliate NFBC.
>>>> Also when someone is keeping several hundred dollars at there house
>>>> their is a risk of burglary than what? When terra had that money in
>>>> our safe after a few weeks I can tell you it felt scarry, Presidents
>>>> of our State affiliate AKA Bob Acosta prior to our reorganization
>>>> was taken to task for messing with the cash I
>>>>
>>>> think if I remember he borrowed money to buy a clock for his wife.
>>>> Keeping our
>>>> cash in a bank at all times leaves a clear trail no one will borrow
>>>> a few
>>>>
>>>> bucks
>>>> temporarily for a weekend trip to Las Vegas intending to Pay it back.
>>>> and, I know all or most of our members are honest but keeping
>>>> pillowcases full of cash for months well that's not professional in
>>>> any circles.
>>>> We need to make sure money is placed in an account and when
>>>> necessary transferred from bank to bank just like the State
>>>> affiliate
> does.
>>>> I know signatures are a headache and such but that is the same for
>>>> all organizations.
>>>> When I was president of the San Fernando valley chapter many years
>>>> ago a girlfriend was serving as an officer, I believe treasure but
>>>> maybe secretary, it was many years ago.
>>>> We broke up she left town and it was a nightmare doing paperwork but
>>>> we got it done and the names got changed and I didn't keep physical
>>>> cash at my house.
>>>> I am not suggesting anyone is a bad leader, I have utmost respect
>>>> for this administration but we need to be careful how we r un the
>>>> organization and we need to do everything in our power to educate
>>>> and recruit students so our voice will be heard as we strive to
>>>> improve conditions for blind students pursuing higher education.
>>>> Some would like thesee matters kept between board members but for
>>>> those aspiring to sit on the board these are some of the issues you
>>>> must address.
>>>> The student division is a good training ground and dealing with
>>>> these kinds of things enriches your resume when you graduate
>>>> college.
>>>> I do not plan on bringing these issues up in a forum.
>>>> Mike
>>>> We don't need to debate these opinions they are mine and I will do
>>>> what I can to help whoever is elected.
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "California Association of Blind Students Mailing List"
>>>> <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 1:56 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> information servers of the list-serve, I wonder if it's not a bad
>>>>> Idea to send the cabs constitutionas an atatchment to this very
>>>>> list-serve?
>>>>> though, i don't think that would answer all of the questions
>>>>> regarding who's running for what.
>>>>> Yes, B.J. is correct, i do remember taking part in a forum where
>>>>> the then presidential canadates did speak.
>>>>> so, maybe a questionI might pose is this go-round, would having all
>>>>> the canadates who are running for all the board positions that are
>>>>> up, involved in such a situation be an idea? more over, a good one?
>>>>> Darian
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/10/09, Bruce Sexton Jr. <bjsexton at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello members and concerned parties,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As the First Vice-President on behalf of CABS, I would like to
>>>>>> make some comments on the topic of an open forum. Let me first
>>>>>> say, that our president, Deepa Goraya, is out of the country, in
>>>>>> Italy. Last year, we provided the membership with an open forum
>>>>>> over a conference call. I too think it is important to have
>>>>>> transparency and frank discussions in every organization. I
>>>>>> believe that there may be some confusion, because not everyone has
>>>>>> decided where they would like to be in the upcoming elections.
>>>>>> I am all for an informational discussion between everyone. Our
>>>>>> next board meeting, which will be closed, will be on August 16th
>>>>>> where the board will discuss the appropriate ways to insure a good
>>>>>> positive open forum experience for everyone. So, if you have
>>>>>> anything you would like to have brought up in this board meeting,
>>>>>> please contact one of your board members to have them do so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks, and I look forward to our upcoming discussion!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> Bruce F. Sexton Jr., First Vice President California Association
>>>>>> of Blind Students
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Aziza C" <daydreamingncolor at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:19 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have recently returned from my second summer at the Colorado
>>>>>>> Center of the Blind, having participated in NABS and the Colorado
>>>>>>> Student Devisions activities over the summer, I am excited to be
>>>>>>> back in California and eager to see our student devision evolve
>>>>>>> in the upcoming year.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I too have heard many rummors about possible candidates,
>>>>>>> candidates for positions that are not even up for election in
>>>>>>> this upcoming meeting. I would find it benificial to have an open
>>>>>>> forum where interested candidates, and interested members can
>>>>>>> discuss the future of the California Student Devision, as a
>>>>>>> board, we have already begun planning out the upcoming year,
>>>>>>> however, the membership as a whole has a right to an oppinion,
>>>>>>> and to bring forth suggestions and interests that could assist us
>>>>>>> to move forward. Having an open forum as Darian has suggested can
>>>>>>> bring some balance and understanding to our elections, increase
>>>>>>> the involvment, and simplify the process for those who have only
>>>>>>> seen confusion. I am supposed to be on the inside, as a board
>>>>>>> member, and I can honestly say I am still confused as to who is
>>>>>>> running for what, why, and when. Meeting our candidates before
>>>>>>> the election is an idea that can assist us greatly in making the
> right decision for the new board.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> Aziza Cano
>>>>>>> California Association of Blind Students Secretary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/10/09, cabs-talk-request at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> <cabs-talk-request at nfbnet.org>
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>>>>>>>> 3. Re: rumors and reality: cabs election? (Isabel arreola)
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>>>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:57:43 -0700
>>>>>>>> From: Darian Smith <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>>>>> To: cabs-talk <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
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>>>>>>>> <409c235c0908092057p5e48bc9fh6d21028ff80f70a9 at mail.gmail.com>
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>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I understand that our state convention is in october, and at that
>>>>>>>> time is the anual cabs meeting. I've already been hearing
>>>>>>>> rumors
>>>>>>>> swirlingabout regarding individuals who might be interested in
>>>>>>>> running for board positions that may or may not be up for
>>>>>>>> election.
>>>>>>>> I'm wondering if there can't be a fourm where the membership
>>>>>>>> can:
>>>>>>>> A. find about about whatexciting things cabs has planned or has
>>>>>>>> in the works for the cabs meeting
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> B. hear about elections; and how they work C. find out what
>>>>>>>> positions are up for election.
>>>>>>>> D. who's running for what position and why.
>>>>>>>> I think it would be rather benifitial, to have all of the
>>>>>>>> canadates who wish to seek election in one place, talking about
>>>>>>>> their backgrounds, what they believe they would bring to the
>>>>>>>> division to strenthin it and be willing to answer any questions
>>>>>>>> that the membership might have.
>>>>>>>> I propose that if we do have something like this, that we have
>>>>>>>> a moderator who would ask two or three questions to the
>>>>>>>> canadets running for these positions as well.
>>>>>>>> I am interested to hear from the membership;anybody, really
>>>>>>>> who has a thought on this. I would encourage everybody as
>>>>>>>> students to chime in on the idea.
>>>>>>>> Thanks and have a splended evening.
>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>> Darian
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 23:20:01 -0700
>>>>>>>> From: "Michael Peterson" <its_mike at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>>>>> To: "California Association of Blind Students Mailing List"
>>>>>>>> <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Message-ID: <0B4802ADFFD34C9DBE697259A55571A1 at MikePC>
>>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";
>>>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Darian. I'm sure someone can tell you which offices are
>>>>>>>> up for re-election. I went to the last CABS meeting at
>>>>>>>> convention but am not sure which offices run for two years and
>>>>>>>> which are for one. If you attend the meeting however, each
>>>>>>>> candidate
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> usually given a chance to introduce his/her self.
>>>>>>>> I suspect you could question the candidates from the audience if
>>>>>>>> you wanted to find out about a specific One idea I think would
>>>>>>>> be good is the CABS constitution be posted on the website than
>>>>>>>> any question about which positions were open would be answered
>>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>>> The constitution if I remember was amended at the last
>>>>>>>> Meeting.
>>>>>>>> The CABS meeting will happen on Friday so I doubt there would
>>>>>>>> be a lot of time for an involved discussion.
>>>>>>>> Perhaps if students wish such a discussion to occur candidates
>>>>>>>> could introduce themselves on the listserve or maybe a
>>>>>>>> conference meeting could
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> conveened by one or more of the officers.
>>>>>>>> If such a position is open and if the division needs my services
>>>>>>>> I have told some I will gladly serve as a board member at large.
>>>>>>>> I have one year left until I graduate SDSU in June 2010 with my
>>>>>>>> Masters in Rehabilitation.
>>>>>>>> I am not asking for the nomination but will be available if
>>>>>>>> requested
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> serve. I am not requesting a
>>>>>>>> higher office. When our affiliate reorganized I was the first
>>>>>>>> president of the student division.
>>>>>>>> I held that office for a couple years and than it was taken by
>>>>>>>> Michael Bayliff.
>>>>>>>> I'm dating myself but doing it to say I want to see young blood
>>>>>>>> have the opportunity to serve that I did whether Depa continues
>>>>>>>> in the office
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> some one else is elected.
>>>>>>>> I feel that as a board member I could serve as an organizer and
>>>>>>>> an advisor based on my previous experience.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The rafting trip was a great idea and I commend the
>>>>>>>> administration for encouraging involvement of students. I
>>>>>>>> however would like to see regional seminars held in the north,
>>>>>>>> the south and perhaps in central California.
>>>>>>>> These seminars would focus on teaching students about things
>>>>>>>> like how to acquire scholarships, how to set up a PASS, How to
>>>>>>>> acquire books what options are available, bookshare.org, RFBD
>>>>>>>> etc and other topics. The seminars would be maybe from 10:00
>>>>>>>> a.m to 4:00 p.m they would include a luncheon and maybe other
>>>>>>>> features designed to get students and parents to mingle and
>>>>>>>> become familiar with the CABS and it's role Why they should
>>>>>>>> join CABS and what exactly is the NFB.
>>>>>>>> We would stress inviting blind high school students their
>>>>>>>> parents, as well as local high school and college officials.
>>>>>>>> Another idea that could be fun is a Student legislative lunchon.
>>>>>>>> It could be held in Sacramento and we could invite State
>>>>>>>> legislatures to come and talk with us as well as congressional
>>>>>>>> leaders or their representatives.
>>>>>>>> We might even consider a march to the capitol similar to the
>>>>>>>> National march in Detroit and it could be a fundraiser as well
>>>>>>>> as an educational event.
>>>>>>>> What a way to end our luncheon or begin it whichhever.
>>>>>>>> I think probably the March should come first and end as we
>>>>>>>> conveen for the luncheon!
>>>>>>>> I would also like to introduce some new fundraising projects
>>>>>>>> such as the sell of holiday cards candles or gifts. This could
>>>>>>>> be done online and at events
>>>>>>>> Other fundraisers also could be created We could attempt to
>>>>>>>> get fraternities and sorities to assist in our efforts.
>>>>>>>> Moneys raised would be invested in developing our student
>>>>>>>> affiliate across theState.
>>>>>>>> My emphasis would be get more students involved in participation!
>>>>>>>> To me the membership not the board is the student division.
>>>>>>>> We need students in mass to get involved if we want college
>>>>>>>> books to be accessible if we want to influence change on our
>>>>>>>> local campuses we need to organize the numbers to make our
>>>>>>>> voices heard.
>>>>>>>> We need to invite government officials and college
>>>>>>>> administrators to our meetings and when necessary we need to ask
>>>>>>>> hard questions.
>>>>>>>> We need to draft strong resolutions for the State convention and
>>>>>>>> be strong in our participation in the NABS.
>>>>>>>> We need to take very seriously the reality that today's
>>>>>>>> students are tomorrow's leaders in the NFBC.
>>>>>>>> This is why training seminars are so very important. We also
>>>>>>>> need to listen to the membership to work with the members and
>>>>>>>> be receptive to their ideas.
>>>>>>>> We need to encourage all students to do the work not just the
>>>>>>>> board.That being said, in most organizations not just the
>>>>>>>> student division NFBC a minority seems to "get stuck" doing a
>>>>>>>> majority of the work.
>>>>>>>> Please if you come to vote come also to participate as an active
>>>>>>>> member to help create the very best Student Division we have
>>>>>>>> ever had and to take an active part not just in voting but in
>>>>>>>> shapeing your own destiny!
>>>>>>>> We need you each of you we need your voice your energy your
>>>>>>>> creativity and your unique talent that only you can provide.
>>>>>>>> So come Join us in Newark and help make our dreams come true.
>>>>>>>> Let's see a really large contingent of students on ThursdayOct
>>>>>>>> 22, walking across the golden gate bridge! How fun.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are gifted in that we have some wonderful students with great
>>>>>>>> leadership potential.
>>>>>>>> And with monumental budget cuts to education on the State
>>>>>>>> level we need all the help we can get!
>>>>>>>> Let's make the Student division CABS as well as the NFBC the
>>>>>>>> best they can be by working together.
>>>>>>>> I will vote for the candidates I like but when the smoke clears
>>>>>>>> I will as now do all I can to support those the membership deems
>>>>>>>> most suited to be their leaders.
>>>>>>>> God bless:
>>>>>>>> Michael Peterson
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Darian Smith" <dsmithnfb at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "cabs-talk" <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 8:57 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand that our state convention is in october, and at that
>>>>>>>>> time is the anual cabs meeting. I've already been hearing
> rumors
>>>>>>>>> swirlingabout regarding individuals who might be interested in
>>>>>>>>> running for board positions that may or may not be up for
> election.
>>>>>>>>> I'm wondering if there can't be a fourm where the membership
>>>>>>>>> can:
>>>>>>>>> A. find about about whatexciting things cabs has planned or has
>>>>>>>>> in the works for the cabs meeting
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> B. hear about elections; and how they work C. find out what
>>>>>>>>> positions are up for election.
>>>>>>>>> D. who's running for what position and why.
>>>>>>>>> I think it would be rather benifitial, to have all of the
>>>>>>>>> canadates who wish to seek election in one place, talking
>>>>>>>>> about their backgrounds, what they believe they would bring to
>>>>>>>>> the division to strenthin it and be willing to answer any
>>>>>>>>> questions that the membership might have.
>>>>>>>>> I propose that if we do have something like this, that we have
>>>>>>>>> a moderator who would ask two or three questions to the
>>>>>>>>> canadets running for these positions as well.
>>>>>>>>> I am interested to hear from the membership;anybody, really
>>>>>>>>> who has a thought on this. I would encourage everybody as
>>>>>>>>> students to chime in on the idea.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks and have a splended evening.
>>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>>> Darian
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:51:15 -0700
>>>>>>>> From: Isabel arreola <twylyt74 at hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>>>>> To: <cabs-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Message-ID: <BAY110-W49EF9107D81EECCE066768D7060 at phx.gbl>
>>>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I completely endorse this proposal for such a forum . I am
>>>>>>>> excited to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>> such interest in the chapter. Best of all, as a voter, it is
>>>>>>>> nice to have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> hoice of cadidates to represent me as a blind student.
>>>>>>>> I nominate Angela Fouler to set up the web page.
>>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:57:43 -0700
>>>>>>>>> From: dsmithnfb at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> To: cabs-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Cabs-talk] rumors and reality: cabs election?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I understand that our state convention is in october, and at
>>>>>>>>> that time is the anual cabs meeting. I've already been hearing
>>>>>>>>> rumors swirlingabout regarding individuals who might be
>>>>>>>>> interested in running for board positions that may or may not
>>>>>>>>> be up
> for election.
>>>>>>>>> I'm wondering if there can't be a fourm where the membership can:
>>>>>>>>> A. find about about whatexciting things cabs has planned or has
>>>>>>>>> in the works for the cabs meeting
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> B. hear about elections; and how they work C. find out what
>>>>>>>>> positions are up for election.
>>>>>>>>> D. who's running for what position and why.
>>>>>>>>> I think it would be rather benifitial, to have all of the
>>>>>>>>> canadates who wish to seek election in one place, talking about
>>>>>>>>> their backgrounds, what they believe they would bring to the
>>>>>>>>> division to strenthin it and be willing to answer any questions
>>>>>>>>> that the membership might have.
>>>>>>>>> I propose that if we do have something like this, that we have
>>>>>>>>> a moderator who would ask two or three questions to the
>>>>>>>>> canadets running for these positions as well.
>>>>>>>>> I am interested to hear from the membership;anybody, really who
>>>>>>>>> has a thought on this. I would encourage everybody as students
>>>>>>>>> to chime in on the idea.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks and have a splended evening.
>>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>>> Darian
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> _ Get back to school stuff for them and cashback for you.
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