[Cabs] Report From Conference Call
Diane
dianefilipe at peoplepc.com
Tue Dec 15 04:03:56 UTC 2009
Oh boy..I have a few spelling errors that need to be corrected. (Perhaps
Freudian slips?) "pork" should be work, and KI should be I...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Diane" <dianefilipe at peoplepc.com>
To: "Colorado Association of Blind Students List" <cabs at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Cabs] Report From Conference Call
> Mr. Nimer,
> Number one, I do not have your $5 dues making you a paid member of CABS
> for the 2009-2010 year.
> Number two, where on earth is my math error? I know it often takes more
> than one person to look over something and find possible errors, but I
> have no idea where you think I should start.
> Number three, you owe everyone an apology for your outburst. No one needs
> to be attacked or made to feel they are incompetent. Everyone deserves a
> chance!
> No one is perfect except for God, and we should all be allowed to continue
> to do the very best we can each day without the fear of ridicule.
> In your lifetime, you will probably encounter a million different people.
> You won't like some of them, but you can not lash out at people and
> intentionally hurt them.
> You have no say in if our constitution is satisfactory or not. There are
> many great leaders in our organization who have put an incredible amount
> of pork into seeing that our constitution is just and fair.
> KI hope this is the last comment written on this subject. At least for
> today.
> Please send your $5 to:
> 1455 44th Avenue Place
> Greeley, CO. 80634
> Please remember the reason for the season!
> Diane
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com>
> To: "Colorado Association of Blind Students List" <cabs at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Cabs] Report From Conference Call
>
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've read over the constitution, and still find this to be
>> unsatisfactory. I understand the roles of each elected position. I
>> understand that Abel was elected fairly. What I don't understand is this
>> for your : Is there any test that one must take to be able to, for
>> instance, handle the CABS fund? Is there anything someone must do to
>> become secretary? If not, then yes, something like a month's application
>> ought to be submitted to the board. This application ought to include
>> some basic questions. What is 1+2? How do you spell committee? That type
>> of thing. This ensures that those who are elected are fully competent and
>> able to complete the job that they have been assigned or elected to do.
>> Again, I am not asking for a recall of elections. I am not wishing to
>> dispute the results of this year's elections. I am simply asking whether
>> or not there are any sorts of tests that one must take to ensure that
>> he/she is competent enough to complete their duties as officer on the
>> CABS board. If they are not in place, I am suggesting that they should be
>> put in place, and I am willing to draft a proposal and submit it to
>> whoever for discussion and adoption by the board, or whoever needs to
>> adopt it.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Nimer J
>>
>> Nimer M. Jaber
>>
>> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to
>> which it
>> is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any
>> review,
>> retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in
>> reliance
>> upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended
>> recipient is
>> prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender via
>> reply e-mail, and delete the
>> material from any computer.
>>
>> Phone:
>> (720) (251-4530)
>>
>>
>> Marty Rahn wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> Nimer, Thank you for bringing up these concerns. I did receive the
>>> message which you sent, and would like to address the question which you
>>> pose about the requirements that one must fulfil in order to serve on
>>> the board. According to Article V, of the Constitution of our devision,
>>> entitled, "officers and Their Duties," it states the following:
>>> "Section One: Officers
>>> There shall be elected at the regular annual business meeting a
>>> President Vice President Second Vice President a Secretary and a
>>> Treasurer The terms of their offices shall begin at the close of the
>>> annual business meeting at which they are elected and qualified Officers
>>> shall be elected by a majority vote of all members present and voting
>>> There shall be no proxy voting if no nominee receives a majority vote on
>>> the first ballot the name of the person receiving the least votes will
>>> be removed from the list of nominees and a second ballot recorded This
>>> procedure shall continue until one candidate receives a simple majority
>>> of the votes The holders of the offices of President, Vice President,
>>> and Second Vice President must be students who are blind and planning to
>>> attend an educational program in the academic year following the
>>> election All other officers may be blind or sighted students and must
>>> be planning to attend an educational program in the academic year
>>> following the election
>>>
>>> Section Two: Duties
>>>
>>> The duties of each officer shall be those ordinarily associated with
>>> that office."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have also atached the Constitution in its Entirety to this message
>>> should anyone else care to take a look at the document that governs our
>>> devision. In short, Abel was fairly elected by the paying membership of
>>> this devision to the position of Secretary, and there is nothing in our
>>> Constitution which allows me to replace him or any other officer who has
>>> been elected by those who have paid their dues. I have read through our
>>> Constitution twice now, and this is one of sevral reasons why I have not
>>> yet answered the message you sent me inquiring about the position of
>>> Secretary.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In your reply to one of Melissa's messages, you state that you believe
>>> there needs to be safeguards in place to ensure that everyone elected to
>>> the CABS board meets the requirements set forth in the Constitution.
>>> Have you given any thought to what these safeguards might entail?
>>> Should we ask for some type of varification about a candidates visual
>>> impairment and their school status to be submitted to the board before
>>> we proceed with elections? Should this information be sent idealy a
>>> month or so ahead of time so that elections can take place unimpeeded?
>>> The long and short of this uniquely human problem is that there are
>>> numerous people, including myself, who have responsibilities,priorities,
>>> and lives outside of their duties to the devision. No one person can be
>>> everywhere at once, nore is it my responsibility to personally handhold
>>> and babysit everyone to make sure that everything gets done. We are all
>>> adults, and should at least be able to prioritize our responsibilities
>>> on their level of importants. With that said, we all have different
>>> views about the level of importance assigned to each task in our lives.
>>> Just like with committees established by the state Board of Directors,
>>> committees must meet and commence with their tasks at a time that is
>>> mutually benificial for all members. This means that committee chairs
>>> must take responsibility to answer emails or phone calls from members.
>>> While I realize that the information about committee appointments was
>>> apparently not received by everyone, it has now been sent out, and there
>>> should be no question about whom one is to contact in order to serve on
>>> a committee, or to ask a question.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We can not go back and undo what has already been done, but we can move
>>> forward and try to make things better. Ideally, every organization
>>> strives for transparency, and CABS should be no different. However, in
>>> order to achieve this, we must all work together. I can not address
>>> problems until I am made aware of them, so let's keep diologuing in
>>> hopes of reaching a satisfactory level of transparency.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Marty Rahn,
>>>
>>> president, Colorado Association of Blind Students
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Colorado Association of Blind Students List" <cabs at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:52 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Cabs] Report From Conference Call
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> No doubt many would disagree with my opinion, and some may believe that
>>>> I am being too harsh. However, if a secretary can't form notes that are
>>>> spelled correctly, have proper grammar, and takes half of the
>>>> conference call to discuss notes which are still messed up, then I
>>>> don't put much faith in the secretary elected to represent the Colorado
>>>> Students. Are there no requirements other than being a student to
>>>> fulfill the role of secretary, or any position for that matter? I
>>>> should hope that my treasurer can count and keep track of funds, my
>>>> secretary can take notes that, while brief, are understandable, and my
>>>> president can return emails when I send them out. So far, I have
>>>> emailed a request to the president regarding the requirements for board
>>>> positions. I want to know what is required to be a secretary or a
>>>> treasurer of CABS. Also, if there was any effort whatsoever put into
>>>> the website, this process would be transparent and no questions would
>>>> need to be asked. Now, maybe some will see this email as some guy
>>>> writing an email to ramble about things, however, I wave offered to
>>>> work on the site, I have offered to help out with many other things, in
>>>> fact. Many of these such things keep on getting delayed. For example,
>>>> while I brought issues about the website up two months ago, I was told
>>>> at the last meeting that a meeting of the tech committee wouldn't take
>>>> place until next month. I was also told over a week ago at the last
>>>> conference call that a list of committee members (a full list) would be
>>>> sent out to this list, and unless something is going on with my email,
>>>> I have not received such a list.
>>>>
>>>> My hope with taking up bandwidth in posting this message is to see
>>>> change, and I hope that our leadership will rise up and answer the call
>>>> with transparency. If guidelines are not set, I hope they _will _be
>>>> set. Abel, this message was in no way intended to hurt your feelings,
>>>> and I am sure that there are many other positions that you would be
>>>> better suited to on the CABS board. However, the secretary ought to be
>>>> able to speak clearly, read and write minutes, and post them to a forum
>>>> such as this list in a timely manner hopefully to be determined by
>>>> CABS. I know we are all busy, but this shouldn't be an excuse for a
>>>> lack of transparency. Also, if anyone got their feelings hurt and
>>>> wishes to discuss it with me, please email me privately at
>>>> nimerjaber1 at gmail.com and I will do my best to alleviate your concerns.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your time in reading this message, and I look forward to
>>>> any responses.
>>>>
>>>> Nimer J
>>>>
>>>> Nimer M. Jaber
>>>>
>>>> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity
>>>> to which it
>>>> is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material.
>>>> Any review,
>>>> retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action
>>>> in reliance
>>>> upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended
>>>> recipient is
>>>> prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender
>>>> via reply e-mail, and delete the
>>>> material from any computer.
>>>>
>>>> Phone:
>>>> (720) (251-4530)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Abel Ayalew wrote:
>>>>> December 6, 2009was our first Conference call After the convention.
>>>>> The
>>>>> meeting started at 6.45 P.M. Marty, Mellisa, Maurice, Nimer, Esha,
>>>>> Becky,
>>>>> Arille, and Abel were present at the meeting. Treasury report $430.87
>>>>> balance of available. People are assigned committee. Every one selling
>>>>> candy
>>>>> in there campus. The next Conference Call will be in January 17, 2010
>>>>> at 7
>>>>> P.M. January 21, 2010 will be a trip to the Colorado school for the
>>>>> blind to
>>>>> talk to the student. The meeting adjourn at 8 P.M.
>>>>>
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