[Cabs] Report From Conference Call
Diane
dianefilipe at peoplepc.com
Tue Dec 15 03:59:10 UTC 2009
Mr. Nimer,
Number one, I do not have your $5 dues making you a paid member of CABS for
the 2009-2010 year.
Number two, where on earth is my math error? I know it often takes more
than one person to look over something and find possible errors, but I have
no idea where you think I should start.
Number three, you owe everyone an apology for your outburst. No one needs
to be attacked or made to feel they are incompetent. Everyone deserves a
chance!
No one is perfect except for God, and we should all be allowed to continue
to do the very best we can each day without the fear of ridicule.
In your lifetime, you will probably encounter a million different people.
You won't like some of them, but you can not lash out at people and
intentionally hurt them.
You have no say in if our constitution is satisfactory or not. There are
many great leaders in our organization who have put an incredible amount of
pork into seeing that our constitution is just and fair.
KI hope this is the last comment written on this subject. At least for
today.
Please send your $5 to:
1455 44th Avenue Place
Greeley, CO. 80634
Please remember the reason for the season!
Diane
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com>
To: "Colorado Association of Blind Students List" <cabs at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Cabs] Report From Conference Call
> Hello,
>
> I've read over the constitution, and still find this to be unsatisfactory.
> I understand the roles of each elected position. I understand that Abel
> was elected fairly. What I don't understand is this for your : Is there
> any test that one must take to be able to, for instance, handle the CABS
> fund? Is there anything someone must do to become secretary? If not, then
> yes, something like a month's application ought to be submitted to the
> board. This application ought to include some basic questions. What is
> 1+2? How do you spell committee? That type of thing. This ensures that
> those who are elected are fully competent and able to complete the job
> that they have been assigned or elected to do. Again, I am not asking for
> a recall of elections. I am not wishing to dispute the results of this
> year's elections. I am simply asking whether or not there are any sorts of
> tests that one must take to ensure that he/she is competent enough to
> complete their duties as officer on the CABS board. If they are not in
> place, I am suggesting that they should be put in place, and I am willing
> to draft a proposal and submit it to whoever for discussion and adoption
> by the board, or whoever needs to adopt it.
>
> Thanks
> Nimer J
>
> Nimer M. Jaber
>
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> Marty Rahn wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> Nimer, Thank you for bringing up these concerns. I did receive the
>> message which you sent, and would like to address the question which you
>> pose about the requirements that one must fulfil in order to serve on the
>> board. According to Article V, of the Constitution of our devision,
>> entitled, "officers and Their Duties," it states the following:
>> "Section One: Officers
>> There shall be elected at the regular annual business meeting a President
>> Vice President Second Vice President a Secretary and a Treasurer The
>> terms of their offices shall begin at the close of the annual business
>> meeting at which they are elected and qualified Officers shall be elected
>> by a majority vote of all members present and voting There shall be no
>> proxy voting if no nominee receives a majority vote on the first ballot
>> the name of the person receiving the least votes will be removed from the
>> list of nominees and a second ballot recorded This procedure shall
>> continue until one candidate receives a simple majority of the votes The
>> holders of the offices of President, Vice President, and Second Vice
>> President must be students who are blind and planning to attend an
>> educational program in the academic year following the election All
>> other officers may be blind or sighted students and must be planning to
>> attend an educational program in the academic year following the election
>>
>> Section Two: Duties
>>
>> The duties of each officer shall be those ordinarily associated with that
>> office."
>>
>>
>>
>> I have also atached the Constitution in its Entirety to this message
>> should anyone else care to take a look at the document that governs our
>> devision. In short, Abel was fairly elected by the paying membership of
>> this devision to the position of Secretary, and there is nothing in our
>> Constitution which allows me to replace him or any other officer who has
>> been elected by those who have paid their dues. I have read through our
>> Constitution twice now, and this is one of sevral reasons why I have not
>> yet answered the message you sent me inquiring about the position of
>> Secretary.
>>
>>
>>
>> In your reply to one of Melissa's messages, you state that you believe
>> there needs to be safeguards in place to ensure that everyone elected to
>> the CABS board meets the requirements set forth in the Constitution.
>> Have you given any thought to what these safeguards might entail? Should
>> we ask for some type of varification about a candidates visual impairment
>> and their school status to be submitted to the board before we proceed
>> with elections? Should this information be sent idealy a month or so
>> ahead of time so that elections can take place unimpeeded? The long and
>> short of this uniquely human problem is that there are numerous people,
>> including myself, who have responsibilities,priorities, and lives outside
>> of their duties to the devision. No one person can be everywhere at
>> once, nore is it my responsibility to personally handhold and babysit
>> everyone to make sure that everything gets done. We are all adults, and
>> should at least be able to prioritize our responsibilities on their level
>> of importants. With that said, we all have different views about the
>> level of importance assigned to each task in our lives. Just like with
>> committees established by the state Board of Directors, committees must
>> meet and commence with their tasks at a time that is mutually benificial
>> for all members. This means that committee chairs must take
>> responsibility to answer emails or phone calls from members. While I
>> realize that the information about committee appointments was apparently
>> not received by everyone, it has now been sent out, and there should be
>> no question about whom one is to contact in order to serve on a
>> committee, or to ask a question.
>>
>>
>>
>> We can not go back and undo what has already been done, but we can move
>> forward and try to make things better. Ideally, every organization
>> strives for transparency, and CABS should be no different. However, in
>> order to achieve this, we must all work together. I can not address
>> problems until I am made aware of them, so let's keep diologuing in hopes
>> of reaching a satisfactory level of transparency.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Marty Rahn,
>>
>> president, Colorado Association of Blind Students
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nimer Jaber" <nimerjaber1 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Colorado Association of Blind Students List" <cabs at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 10:52 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Cabs] Report From Conference Call
>>
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> No doubt many would disagree with my opinion, and some may believe that
>>> I am being too harsh. However, if a secretary can't form notes that are
>>> spelled correctly, have proper grammar, and takes half of the conference
>>> call to discuss notes which are still messed up, then I don't put much
>>> faith in the secretary elected to represent the Colorado Students. Are
>>> there no requirements other than being a student to fulfill the role of
>>> secretary, or any position for that matter? I should hope that my
>>> treasurer can count and keep track of funds, my secretary can take
>>> notes that, while brief, are understandable, and my president can return
>>> emails when I send them out. So far, I have emailed a request to the
>>> president regarding the requirements for board positions. I want to know
>>> what is required to be a secretary or a treasurer of CABS. Also, if
>>> there was any effort whatsoever put into the website, this process would
>>> be transparent and no questions would need to be asked. Now, maybe some
>>> will see this email as some guy writing an email to ramble about things,
>>> however, I wave offered to work on the site, I have offered to help out
>>> with many other things, in fact. Many of these such things keep on
>>> getting delayed. For example, while I brought issues about the website
>>> up two months ago, I was told at the last meeting that a meeting of the
>>> tech committee wouldn't take place until next month. I was also told
>>> over a week ago at the last conference call that a list of committee
>>> members (a full list) would be sent out to this list, and unless
>>> something is going on with my email, I have not received such a list.
>>>
>>> My hope with taking up bandwidth in posting this message is to see
>>> change, and I hope that our leadership will rise up and answer the call
>>> with transparency. If guidelines are not set, I hope they _will _be set.
>>> Abel, this message was in no way intended to hurt your feelings, and I
>>> am sure that there are many other positions that you would be better
>>> suited to on the CABS board. However, the secretary ought to be able to
>>> speak clearly, read and write minutes, and post them to a forum such as
>>> this list in a timely manner hopefully to be determined by CABS. I know
>>> we are all busy, but this shouldn't be an excuse for a lack of
>>> transparency. Also, if anyone got their feelings hurt and wishes to
>>> discuss it with me, please email me privately at nimerjaber1 at gmail.com
>>> and I will do my best to alleviate your concerns.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your time in reading this message, and I look forward to
>>> any responses.
>>>
>>> Nimer J
>>>
>>> Nimer M. Jaber
>>>
>>> The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to
>>> which it
>>> is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material.
>>> Any review,
>>> retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action
>>> in reliance
>>> upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended
>>> recipient is
>>> prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender via
>>> reply e-mail, and delete the
>>> material from any computer.
>>>
>>> Phone:
>>> (720) (251-4530)
>>>
>>>
>>> Abel Ayalew wrote:
>>>> December 6, 2009was our first Conference call After the convention. The
>>>> meeting started at 6.45 P.M. Marty, Mellisa, Maurice, Nimer, Esha,
>>>> Becky,
>>>> Arille, and Abel were present at the meeting. Treasury report $430.87
>>>> balance of available. People are assigned committee. Every one selling
>>>> candy
>>>> in there campus. The next Conference Call will be in January 17, 2010
>>>> at 7
>>>> P.M. January 21, 2010 will be a trip to the Colorado school for the
>>>> blind to
>>>> talk to the student. The meeting adjourn at 8 P.M.
>>>>
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