[Ct-nfb] FW: ACB Resolution on H.R. 3086

Stanley Torow setorow at optonline.net
Sun Nov 11 03:25:43 UTC 2012


don't belie your lack of education to put things in the right context. you
write just fine and no one would know about your lack of education if you
did not bring it up. you put your words just fine.\
don't put yourself down.
eileen

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From: Ct-nfb [mailto:ct-nfb-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Richard
McGaffin
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 11:03 AM
To: NFB of Connecticut Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Ct-nfb] FW: ACB Resolution on H.R. 3086



Hey folks:
 
For those of you who disagree with my past e-mail I will concede this.
You're correct of course, with your opinion. I have known a few folks from
the ACB, and yeah they're very nice folks. Of course you're also right that
not everyone has to think, or feel the same way I do. That's what makes
America the great country, that we have the pleasure to live in.
 
However, I still feel that in this case over opinionated as it maybe. his is
the correct stand for me to take, along with many disabled individuals. For
those who do not need too, all I can say is you're very lucky to be able to
sit back, and not have to involve your selves. 
 
I also know that the NFB has not always taken a stand for folks with
multiple disabilities. However when the cause is just, then I believe a
united front is the best. As president Lincoln once said, or at least I
believe it was he that said a house divided is sure to collapse upon it
self. And in this case I feel that it would benefit all parties concerned if
we stood together on this particular argument. However if not everyone
agrees then as Suzanne suggested perhaps it would be better to just agree to
disagree. 
 
Who know perhaps if I had a job that paid me a decent wage, and if I wasn't
depending so much on social services I might have the same thoughts. All I
can say is I wish you all well, and I will continue to fight for fair wages
for all who need them.
 
Be cool Folks
 
Rich
 
P.S. Once again i ask your pardon for my lack of education, and articulation
that my lack .


--- On Fri, 11/9/12, Chris Kuell <ckuell at comcast.net> wrote:



From: Chris Kuell <ckuell at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Ct-nfb] FW: ACB Resolution on H.R. 3086
To: "NFB of Connecticut Mailing List" <ct-nfb at nfbnet.org>
Date: Friday, November 9, 2012, 8:33 AM


I know many ACB members who are capable, competent blind people. They
believe in independence, Braille, and the right of all blind people to
become active members in the workplace and society. Marcia dresser, who used
to live in Connecticut and was the first VP of the ACB here, worked with us
to help pass a Braille bill back in 1999. I was on several BESB committees
with her, and I admire Marcia and her husband Steve, also blind and an
active ACB member, very much. I've met people at national convention who are
members of both NFB and ACB--although Dr. Maurer would certainly
excommunicate them if he found out. Again, these are capable, competent,
admirable blind people, who are networking and not judging people by
affiliation, but rather by character.

I see the ACB and NFB as completely analogous to republicans and democrats.
Both groups have a vision for our country, but they have different ideas on
how to get there. Neither side is evil, although I have my doubts about the
folks at Fox news, but for some reason, people get fired up when they feel
they have an enemy, which is how far too many NFBers and ACBers react. I've
studied both organizations, and choose to be an NFB member because I think
our philosophy best matches my own personality. But I don't think the ACB is
wrong, just different. I would summarize this way: The NFB wants training
and opportunities for blind people, while the ACB wants understanding and
accommodations.

I listened to the ACB audio clip, twice, and I find it fascinating how
different people react to the same stimuli. I didn't hear any slamming of
the NFB, I just heard a single sentence saying 'it's an NFB bill'. The
sentence wasn't said with love or enthusiasm, and in fact probably held a
little disdain, but I certainly wouldn't call it slamming.

ACB's decision not to support HR 3086 is hardly comparable to Hitler gassing
the Jews or the English exterminating Native Americans. It's a decision
based on facts, math, and mission. NIB doesn't pay blind workers below
minimum wage. Good will does, but by my calculation,it's very few blind
people. The large majority of the few hundred disabled workers who receive
below minimum wage are multi-disabled, almost all with severe cognitive
disabilities. And the small percentage of blind people who are included in
this class are also multi-disabled, with blindness the least of their
troubles. Traditionally, the NFB has not fought on behalf of other
disabilities, and DR. Maurer himself told me personally that 'it dilutes our
message'. The NFB has decided to fight on behalf of people with other
disabilities in taking on HR 3086, while the ACB has decided that they
won't. It's not evil, it's simply a different viewpoint.

Deb, are you sorry you asked? Smile.

chris


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