[Ct-nfb] [Ct-NFB] [Ct-NFB] Humanity ofthe National Federation ofthe Blind

Sun Jul 21 20:53:01 UTC 2013

I am the parent of several adopted children.  I feel a great deal of
compassion towards all children in need.  Look around you and you will find
blind children, children with all types of disabilities living in poverty
without resources.  Yes we heard about this one child, who becomes real and
personal, so there is an emotional pull to want to help in some way.  Your
discussions, questions, arguments, and thoughts are important.  Please
continue to have these discussions and find ways that you can help.  If
nothing else, it raises awareness of the needs of children, who have no
voice, not vote, no face until someone decides that the one child is
important.  Thank you for raising your voices and discussions!
Blessings,
Sue H.

On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 4:32 PM, Stanley Torow <setorow at optonline.net>wrote:

> **
> nathanile,
> thank you for making clear about our state affliate and the baby's funding
> for this family.
> please no more questions and discussions on this topic.it;s been beaten
> to death. you make it very clear where we {state}stands.
> eileen
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Ct-nfb [mailto:ct-nfb-bounces at nfbnet.org] *On Behalf Of *Nathanael
> T. Wales
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 20, 2013 1:04 PM
>
> *To:* NFB of Connecticut Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Ct-nfb] [Ct-NFB] [Ct-NFB] Humanity ofthe National
> Federation ofthe Blind
>
>   Justin,
>
> I’ll confirm that no affiliate funds are being expended on this baby and
> family, doctors, etc.  Our office is collecting donations as already
> requested, tracking them, and depositing them into our checking account;
> and all funds collected on the baby and family’s behalf will then be
> dispersed to purposes appropriate with the decisions already made.  It’s
> exactly like one of our restricted funds (it is in effect a new restricted
> fund).
>
> Our office staff’s time spent on this has been minimal.  Our time as
> members, as volunteers, is an individual responsibility as well as a
> collective decision.  I will echo your suggestion to again contact Senator
> Murphy and our individual House of Representatives member to remind them of
> our legislative priority regarding subminimum wages and accessibility of
> college level E-books (which we call “T.E.A.C.H.”).  I know you yourself
> are working on an application for a grant to our affiliate, Rich and Ilene
> are working hard on chapter fundraising, Ed is leading our at-large
> chapter, etc., etc.
>
> And I know many of us are looking forward to baseball tonight (and another
> opportunity for fundraising and publicity)!
>
> Nathanael Wales
>
>
>  *From:* Justin Salisbury <PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu>
> *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2013 9:16 PM
> *To:* NFB of Connecticut Mailing List <ct-nfb at nfbnet.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Ct-nfb] [Ct-NFB] [Ct-NFB] Humanity ofthe National
> Federation of the Blind
>
>  Then again, if we are using our human resources and time to do it, we
> are donating money to it. It's just not a direct donation.
>
> It's what we economists call implicit costs instead of explicit costs.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 19, 2013, at 8:57 PM, "Justin Salisbury" <PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu>
> wrote:
>
>  Well said, Trevor. Very well said.
>
> To be clear, I don't believe we are donating any affiliate money to the
> cause. We are still using our human resources for it, though.
>
> If we had already accomplished all of our goals as an organization and as
> a movement, the freedom to allocate resources to this cause might be
> different.
>
> I certainly hope that all of us who have chimed in on this issue have
> already very thoroughly contacted our legislators about the items on our
> legislative agenda.  In light of their inactivity, I think it is important
> for all of us to contact them all again, anyway. While I don't believe that
> anyone should be repetitive on this listserv, I believe it is time again to
> begin circulating information about our legislative agenda.
>
> Yours,
>
> Justin
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 19, 2013, at 6:52 PM, "Trevor Attenberg" <tattenberg at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>   I can’t speak on the amount of money available other than it is not
> unlimited, especially at the local CT level, where we’ve been facing some
> financial difficulties since the start of the financial downturn. But This
> is most of all not very much a financial question as it is a question of
> purpose, principal, direction, and message. As an organization that puts
> great stock in a specific important message, we have to really steer our
> official activities so as to not cloud that message as we’ve done with this
> project.     As much humanitarianism as this project might represent, it
> has indeed created a negative portraiture of blindness, which is precisely
> what we don’t want. I believe there are better ways to deal with such cases
> as this with the child and family; but I also think such complex issues
> surrounding immigration and conditions overseas are not our strength or
> role to play. If this was a life or death thing where only we could help,
> it’d be a different story. In conclusion, I don’t think you necessarily
> need to tap into NFB resources in order to play a role in the pursuit of
> this family’s visas. There are other roads to take with such circumstances.
> ****
>
> Best       ****
>
> Trevor A****
>
> *From:* Ct-nfb [mailto:ct-nfb-bounces at nfbnet.org<ct-nfb-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Terry Hulbert
> *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2013 6:09 PM
> *To:* 'NFB of Connecticut Mailing List'
> *Subject:* Re: [Ct-nfb] [Ct-NFB] [Ct-NFB] Humanity of the National
> Federation of the Blind****
>
> ****
>
> *Surely that the NFB with all of its millions of dollars available to the
> national office can certainly take this humanitarian act. Min, this should
> be done on a case by case basis. On this case, I vote YES!*
>
> **
>
> *Terry*<!--[if !msEquation]--><image002.png><!--[endif]-->**
>
> ****
>
> *From:* Ct-nfb [mailto:ct-nfb-bounces at nfbnet.org<ct-nfb-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Elizabeth Rival
> *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2013 12:02 PM
> *To:* 'NFB of Connecticut Mailing List'; 'Richard McGaffin'
> *Subject:* Re: [Ct-nfb] [Ct-NFB] [Ct-NFB] Humanity of the National
> Federation of the Blind****
>
> ****
>
> We, NFB are not providing surgery or pretending that we have doctor
> knowledge, we are providing a family a new life in the U.S. and permanent
> membership of NFB parent and children division. Beth ****
>
> ****
>
> *From:* Ct-nfb [mailto:ct-nfb-bounces at nfbnet.org<ct-nfb-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Justin Salisbury
> *Sent:* Friday, July 19, 2013 9:34 AM
> *To:* Richard McGaffin; NFB of Connecticut Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Ct-nfb] [Ct-NFB] Humanity of the National Federation of
> the Blind****
>
> ****
>
> I have no problem with individuals helping this mother and baby acquire
> surgery. I have no problem with that at all.****
>
> ****
>
> We are in organization with a purpose, and this cause lies outside our
> purpose. Though it may be benevolent, it is not appropriate for our
> organization. I enjoy going to church, but I recognize that religion is not
> and will not be taught in public schools. It's the same concept.****
>
> ****
>
> Again, since we have already made these commitments, I believe that we
> must honor them and be accountable for them, but I do not believe that we
> should go down this road again.
>
> Sent from my iPhone****
>
>
> On Jul 19, 2013, at 9:25 AM, "Richard McGaffin" <rmcgaffin at snet.net>
> wrote:****
>
>   I agree Rob, look since I've been a member of the NFB, I've done
> everything from writing letters to Social Security to let them know that
> people have moved with theor new address, because they didn't know how to
> contact them, to giving out BESB's phone number and looking up things on
> the internet tor independent living adds, and phone numbers for people who
> need help, and not all the folks were blind. look it's as simple as this
> we're here to help. I know this is a gray area but hey who am I to deny
> anyone for help. Here's another example I received an e-mail from a woman
> who's six year old son is blind in 1 eye, but because he has normal visio
> in his other eye Besb refuses to help him. So do I tell the lady to get
> lost, or do I inviter her to a meeting. I chose to invite her to a meeting
> perhaps we'll be able to give her some assistance or perhaps not, but it's
> not my call, I believe it's hers so she comes checks us out, ****
>
>  ****
>
> Rich****
>
> ****
>
> *From:* Rob Palaski <PALASKI65 at COMCAST.NET>
> *To:* 'NFB of Connecticut Mailing List' <ct-nfb at nfbnet.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 18, 2013 7:23 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Ct-nfb] [Ct-NFB] Humanity of the National Federation of
> the Blind****
>
> ****
>
> Hi beth****
>
> I understand that it is the NFB’s policy to help people live more
> productively with blindness. But I think that in the interest of humanity I
> think that this woman needs help and that we should help her. My vote is yes
> ****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Ct-nfb [mailto:ct-nfb-bounces at nfbnet.org<ct-nfb-bounces at nfbnet.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *Elizabeth Rival
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 17, 2013 5:05 PM
> *To:* 'NFB of Connecticut Mailing List'
> *Subject:* Re: [Ct-nfb] [Ct-NFB] Humanity of the National Federation of
> the Blind****
>
>  ****
>
> National is the one that called me to help her. In India they don’t have
> the knowledge to do these operations. Beth ****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Ct-nfb [mailto:ct-nfb-bounces at nfbnet.org] *On Behalf Of *Stanley
> Torow
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:35 PM
> *To:* 'NFB of Connecticut Mailing List'
> *Subject:* Re: [Ct-nfb] Humanity of the National Federation of the Blind**
> **
>
>  ****
>
> I agree. We need to know how National stands on this issue. Being blind in
> America is not like being blind in India. We have resorces to help. Does
> India have the same help to its blind population? In India it is better to
> be visual than blind. It is a third world country and does not give great
> help to its disabled population.****
>
> Get national's view on this issue.****
>
> eileen****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* Ct-nfb [mailto:ct-nfb-bounces at nfbnet.org] *On Behalf Of *Al
> Sylvestre
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:06 PM
> *To:* NFB of Connecticut Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Ct-nfb] Humanity of the National Federation of the Blind**
> **
>
> NFB is an advocacy organization; it is not, to the best of my knowledge, a
> charity. The collection and disbursement of money for the benefit of the
> child who is the subject of this discussion is a charitable endeavor If
> this is to be an NFB-sanctioned undertaking, then it seems to me that NFB
> National's permission must be secured to proceed in its name.****
>
> Al****
>
> On Jul 16, 2013 10:50 PM, "Justin Salisbury" <PRESIDENT at alumni.ecu.edu>
> wrote:****
>
> Dear all,****
>
>  ****
>
> It has occurred to me that some here believe that part of the National
> Federation of the Blind’s set of operating principles, or “philosophy,” is
> inhumane.****
>
>  ****
>
> My knee jerk reaction was a laugh, but, now that I think about it, that
> means that there is a misperception or lack of understanding that exists
> about us.  ****
>
>  ****
>
> I want to do my best to help correct that lack of understanding.****
>
>  ****
>
> Please help me by explaining what part of our philosophy appears inhumane
> so that it can be explained.****
>
>  ****
>
> Yours,****
>
>  ****
>
> Justin****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> Justin M. Salisbury****
>
> B.A. in Mathematics****
>
> Class of 2012****
>
> East Carolina University****
>
> president at alumni.ecu.edu****
>
>  ****
>
> “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can
> change the world; indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has.”    —MARGARET
> MEAD****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
>
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