[Diabetes-talk] Count-A-Dose.
d m gina
dmgina at samobile.net
Tue Nov 2 22:40:40 UTC 2010
Hi there I also cary the 6.2 as well. using the pin.
Even my doctor is happy about that.
So we shall rock and roll together smile.
Original message:
> Hey Gang!!
> Call me the Queen of the Count-A-Dose! All I needed was three years ago,
> when I actually did use the pens, I met that Medicare doughnut in the middle
> of April. The next year, when I went back to using the very same insulin
> with the Count-A-dose along with the vials and syringes, what do ya know--I
> didn't hit the doughnut till the middle of August? That spoke volumes to
> me!! And, of course, it was Ed Bryant who gave me my count-a-dose lessons.
> To this day, I'm still maintaining A1C of 6.2. I don't think I need say
> more?
> Have a great day!!
> Bern
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>> 2. Re: update on Denial of Insulin Coverage Count adose
>> (Mike Freeman)
>> 3. Re: update on Denial of Insulin Coverage (Mike Freeman)
>> 4. Re: update on Denial of Insulin Coverage (Veronica Elsea)
>> 5. Re: update on Denial of Insulin Coverage Count a dose
>> (Veronica Elsea)
>> 6. Re: update on Denial of Insulin Coverage (Mike Freeman)
>> 7. Re: update on Denial of Insulin Coverage Count a dose
>> (Mike Freeman)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:01:05 -0400
>> From: "Eileen Scrivani" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage
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>> I do not believe its as simple as a matter of preference, A.K.A. just
>> getting what we want because we want it.
>> Before I made the switch to pens, I was using the count A Dose,
>> When my diabetic educator saw it, she immediately came forth and said she
>> questioned the "Exactness" of the dosages the device was pulling up using
>> vials & syringes. She said all it would take to throw it off by a
>> fraction
>> of a unit or half unit would be a slight & unintentional movement of the
>> hand or a little accidental extra push up or down and the insulin dose
>> would
>> be thrown off. For many people a fraction more or less may not have a
>> great
>> impact. For me at that time that little difference was having a huge
>> impact
>> on my numbers and the way I felt.
>> The pens deliver a very exact dosage and are a requirement for good
>> control
>> and even numbers.
>> Eileen
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 11:07:05 -0700
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage
>> Count adose
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>> Hi, Joyce.
>> Yes, the 1CC Count-a-dose is no longer made. Apparently, there wasn't
>> sufficient demand for it. I wonder if this says something about
>> improvement
>> in overall diabetes control, thus obviating the necessity for massive
>> doses
>> of insulin? I have no opinion.
>> Personally, I don't think needles are all that expensive and I never had
>> fear of injections or injection site problems but for those who did or do,
>> I
>> can certainly relate.
>> As I said in my previous post, there may not be a definitive answer to my
>> philosophical question but the list has been sorta quiet lately so thought
>> I'd stir the pot.
>> Mike Freeman
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <Blindhands at aol.com>
>> To: <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 9:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage Count
>> adose
>>> The Count a dose is not the answer for all. Before I started using the
>>> pen and the Count A Dose was not being manufactured I was on a dosage of
>>> Lantis that I used a 1 cc syringe. Luckily I had an old Count A Dose
>>> that
>>> accomodated the 1 cc syringe. From what I have heard the new Count a
>>> Dose
>>> is
>>> available in the 1/2 cc size only. Is this correct?
>>> So now a diabetic would have to take 2 injections causing expense for
>>> extra
>>> needles per month and more possible problems with injection sites.
>>> Thank God I no longer need that Lantis dosage as I am on 44 units now
>>> instead of 80 units, but that is close to the full syringe size. So I am
>>> happy
>>> with the pen.
>>> Joyce Kane
>>> www.KraftersKorner.org (http://www.krafterskorner.org/)
>>> Blindhands at AOL.com
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>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 11:23:50 -0700
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "Eileen Scrivani" <ETSCRIVANI at VERIZON.NET>, "Diabetes Talk for the
>> Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage
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>> Eileen:
>> I'll certainly agree with you and stipulate that pens are more accurate.
>> Most people in Europe nowadays use pens and can't figure out why we in the
>> "colonies" haven't switched exclusively to them -- or pumps, perhaps. If
>> my
>> insurer said it would no longer cover pens, I'd switch insurers before I
>> went to a Count-a-dose. Nonetheless, I bought one "just in case".
>> Incidentally, while I can see and agree with your CDE's opinion that one
>> can
>> be more accurate with the pens than with Count-a-dose, there are those who
>> feel that the latter is more accurate than the former. The late Ed Bryant
>> was notably of this opinion. I suppose in the end it's what one is used
>> to.
>> Mike
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Eileen Scrivani" <etscrivani at verizon.net>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 11:01 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage
>>> I do not believe its as simple as a matter of preference, A.K.A. just
>>> getting what we want because we want it.
>>> Before I made the switch to pens, I was using the count A Dose,
>>> When my diabetic educator saw it, she immediately came forth and said she
>>> questioned the "Exactness" of the dosages the device was pulling up using
>>> vials & syringes. She said all it would take to throw it off by a
>>> fraction of a unit or half unit would be a slight & unintentional
>>> movement of the hand or a little accidental extra push up or down and the
>>> insulin dose would be thrown off. For many people a fraction more or
>>> less
>>> may not have a great impact. For me at that time that little difference
>>> was having a huge impact on my numbers and the way I felt.
>>> The pens deliver a very exact dosage and are a requirement for good
>>> control and even numbers.
>>> Eileen
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
>>> Diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
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>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 11:56:02 -0700
>> From: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage
>> Message-ID:
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>> I think that, blind or not, any person is going to find one system
>> easier than another. Everyone should have that option. Some people
>> with neuropathy will have certain abilities that may be different
>> from other people. Just as every blind person is different. If you
>> read the count-a-dose manual, they say there can be some variation in
>> delivery from one vial to the next. If anyone felt mor reassured by
>> how the pen delivered insulin, I'd totally support them. I think
>> there is a way that the NFB could say that a blind person knows what
>> is more accessible for him or her and should have the ability to have
>> that determination respected. Same goes for sighted people.
>> That's my take on the subject.
>> Veronica
>> Diabetes Melodious is here!
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>> Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> 877-607-6407
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 11:59:24 -0700
>> From: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage
>> Count a dose
>> Message-ID:
>> <mailman.21.1288630806.22579.diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org at nfbnet.org>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>> Also, for those who take very small amounts of insulin, some pens
>> click in half-unit increments, which the count-a-dose does not.
>> Veronica
>> Diabetes Melodious is here!
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>> Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> 877-607-6407
>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:37:37 -0700
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage
>> Message-ID: <ED6338BA0D7A408A919EA22FB74C6AB6 at owner1e06aeb63>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=response
>> Veronica:
>> You'll get no argument from me on that score.
>> Mike
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Veronica Elsea" <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 11:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage
>>> I think that, blind or not, any person is going to find one system easier
>>> than another. Everyone should have that option. Some people with
>>> neuropathy
>>> will have certain abilities that may be different from other people. Just
>>> as every blind person is different. If you read the count-a-dose manual,
>>> they say there can be some variation in delivery from one vial to the
>>> next.
>>> If anyone felt mor reassured by how the pen delivered insulin, I'd totally
>>> support them. I think there is a way that the NFB could say that a blind
>>> person knows what is more accessible for him or her and should have the
>>> ability to have that determination respected. Same goes for sighted
>>> people.
>>> That's my take on the subject.
>>> Veronica
>>> Diabetes Melodious is here!
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>> Veronica Elsea, Owner
>>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> 877-607-6407
>>> _______________________________________________
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>> ------------------------------
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 14:37:58 -0700
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage
>> Count a dose
>> Message-ID: <CB894EA1360F4F2CB1FBF84B9E517955 at owner1e06aeb63>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>> reply-type=response
>> Right again!
>> Mike
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Veronica Elsea" <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 11:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] update on Denial of Insulin Coverage Count a
>> dose
>>> Also, for those who take very small amounts of insulin, some pens click
>>> in
>>> half-unit increments, which the count-a-dose does not.
>>> Veronica
>>> Diabetes Melodious is here!
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>> Veronica Elsea, Owner
>>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> 877-607-6407
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Diabetes-talk mailing list
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