[Diabetes-talk] excellent article

Mon Jun 18 03:47:12 UTC 2012

Mike, Amen to that. Skip the dogma. Now, straight dog? That's for me. 
Hahahahahaha!

Veronica

At 04:30 PM 6/17/2012, you wrote:
>Veronica:
>
>I eat some carbs also. I am merely opposed to dogma. (grin) You write wise
>words.
>
>Mike
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
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>[mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Veronica Elsea
>Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 4:06 PM
>To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] excellent article
>
>I always figure that in the end, I have to work out a meal plan which
>I can stick with, foods that I enjoy, making changes based on the
>results I get or don't get and not completely going crazy when every
>new fad hits the air waves or internet. I admit to being a pretty
>strong cynic these days just because of how often I've seen things
>change. Now, I'm certainly open to research, but I can be cynical
>about studies too. So at the moment, I doubt that anyone could
>convince me to totally change everything I do. <grin.>
>I do happen to be someone who has things in the carb family which I
>really do enjoy. <grin.> And just based on what I've observed in
>people I know taking meds to control type two, I think those sudden
>drops are more unpredictable than mine. No science behind this one,
>for sure. <grin.>
>But I do love great disagreements on lists. I love it when I'm made
>to think, research and ponder. So thanks, all of you.
>
>Veronica
>
>At 08:06 PM 6/16/2012, you wrote:
> >Hi, Lynn.
> >
> >I'm afraid that on this one, we shall have to amicably agree to disagree.
>To
> >me, the article at
> >
> >http://www.healthcentral.com/diabetes/c/17/27575/brain-fuel-myth
> >
> >is more convincing than the traditional way of thinking. But then I'm going
> >at this from the point of view of a physicist who thinks that most research
> >on human beings is somewhere between difficult and impossible to carry out
> >with scientific rigor.
> >
> >If nothing else, list participants will have two different points of view
> >and, as always with diabetics, will have to make their own judgments.
>(grin)
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> >[mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Lynn Baillif
> >Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 7:11 PM
> >To: diabetes list
> >Subject: [Diabetes-talk] excellent article
> >
> >Mike,
> >
> >Interesting blog.  I have a couple comments.  First, don't hate on us
> >dietitians.  As a profession, we work hard to provide quality nutrition
>care
> >using our background in the hard sciences and nutrition science.  We follow
> >nutrition practice guidelines that are compiled by panels of experts based
> >on current scientific data.  The most recent guidelines for nutrition
> >management in diabetes are found within the 2012 Guidelines for Medical
> >Management of Diabetes published in the January 2012 issue of Diabetes
> >Care.  Here is a link to the full text.
> >http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/35/Supplement_1/S11.full
> >The section on medical nutrition therapy is quite a ways down the article.
> >
> >As for the specific question of should a person with diabetes consume
> >starch/sugar (carbohydrates) at every meal, I make the following points.
> >First, the current recommendation is that the majority of calories in the
> >diet come from carbohydrates- preferrably from whole grains, fruits,
> >vegetables and dairy.  Carbs are the preferred food source of the
> >body (biochemically speaking) and adequate carbs from a variety of sources
> >is needed for adequate micronutrients.   Secondly, depending on the type of
> >diabetes you have and the type of medication you are on, spreading carbs
> >throughout the day may help maintain blood sugar levels.  If you are on
>some
> >medications, eating too little carb will cause blood sugar to drop.  Or,
>for
> >some folks with type 2, the liver releases too much glucose from storage
> >when inadequate carbs are eaten.  So, eating too few carbs can cause the
> >blood sugar to rise in this situation.  On the other hand, if you take fast
> >  acting insulin with your meals and adjust your dose based on the carbs
>you
> >eat- you could eat few carbs at the meal without affecting your blood
> >sugar.  But the question arises, was it a well balanced meal?
> >
> >  In conclusion, should people with diabetes have carbs at every meal? It
> >depends.  But, I caution against the belief that carbs should be cut out
> >totally in order to control blood sugar.  As usual, moderation is the key.
> >And, indivualization of meal planning is key.
> >Lynn
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