[Diabetes-talk] accessible Insulin pumps

Sun Jun 23 20:09:54 UTC 2013

What's left? Will, determination and the fact that while it may be dicey
whether we can succeed or not, we *know* what will happen if we do nothing!
So we keep on trying.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Bridgit Pollpeter
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 11:40 AM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] accessible Insulin pumps

I also use the Cosmo, which has been great. I plan to use the Animas Ping
next, though I don't like it as much as the Cosmo.

We go round and round this topic frequently. I've spoke with a few computer
programmers who believe it wouldn't take much to put text on a pump, as
opposed to icons, which many pumps use, and create a voice-over feature that
was completely accessible and wouldn't cost the reported millions many
companies and other blind people say it would. The problem is that, like
most companies with most products, they have no interest in creating
accessible products, and since blind consumers are a minority among
consumers, they don't view it as worth it.

And accessible or not, so many believe using a pump is dangerous for a blind
person, and in most cases, impossible. It's the age old discussion that is
it really blindness that's creating the problem, or is it the lack of
positive attitudes, proper training and complete accessibility creating the
problem? These opponets have a greater hold of the ear of pump companies
than those of us encouraging a solution.

Why a company like Prodigy would halt production on accessible insulin pumps
is beyond me, especially since the Prodigy talking meter is popular and
widely used among those with visual impairments.

I may be wrong, but at this point, I think the blind voice speaking out on
this issue is being done by individuals. Perhaps if a larger collective were
to take up the banner, at least a louder buzz would be heard.

Like Veronica, I'm frustrated but choose to continue to be optimistic,
because without this concept of hope, what's left?

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Veronica Elsea
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 12:55 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] accessible Insulin pumps

Hi Julie!
First, welcome to the list. This group is great at batting things around
together and anything else we need here. I've heard that Prodigy has given
up on the talking insulin pump. I can't imagine what Roche is coming out
with. But what they have now is a kind of bare bones basic pump with all of
the advanced functionality put into a remote or a PDA.
Their current pump does beep with keypad presses, but using just the
stand-alone pump puts us a good 20 years behind everyone else. No insulin on
board feature, no pump figuring anything out for you. The trouble with many
of the newer pumps or remotes is that everyone is moving to wizards. So in
order to give a simple bolus, first you have to answer questions about what
your BG is, whether or not you plan to eat, bla bla bla. And since these
pumps don't talk, it's tougher to count our way through things. I've been
using the Cozmo by Smiths Medical, but unfortunately it's no longer
available. It's not completely accessible but does have good keypad beeps,
the ability to customize menus and get stuff I don't want out of the way,
and the ability to set things in software on my computer and then fire
everything to my pump via an infrared connection. But my warranty is up so
I'm now looking at what's out there. I'm not thrilled, for sure. 
Depending on where you live, you could take a look at a new one coming out
called The Snap Pump, which does have some audible feedback and uses
pre-filled cartridges. It's out in a few states at the moment. Mine isn't
one of them though. Probably, in a month or so I'll get back to serious
snooping. I really have no idea what I'm going to do though. But I'll
definitely call Roche and see what they say to me. But these days, the FDA
is so backed up that I don't see how any company can realistically promise
anything close to a release date. Although the Tandem T-slim did get it done
this year. That's the pump I'd get were I sighted. It has the features I
want and even has nice audible feedback.
But it's a touch-screen pump. I still checked it out and one big
show-stopper is that even filling the cartridge involves dialogs. If it
thinks you've missed some basal delivery during the process of filling and
loading the cartridge, it asks you what you want it to do. There would be no
way for us to know if that dialog appeared or not. And loading that
cartridge along with a few other basic tasks are on my list of things I must
be able to do myself if I ever want to do things like travel away from home.
So as badly as I want this pump, it can't be. 
But stick around. There are several people using pumps here and we do share
experiences, ask questions, grumble and plan in this group. So thanks for
joining the group. Veronica

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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Julie Graham
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 10:13 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] accessible Insulin pumps

Vapor ware?  you don't believe these companies will release a talking or

accessible pump?  i'm not too sure about the prodigy one but i've been told
about the Roche INSIGHT pump by my DSN and by the Roche rep for this area. 
Perhaps it won't talk but I was told they were working on something to be
released next year which was designed with blind people in mind
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 6:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] accessible Insulin pumps

>I consider all the examples you cite below complete vapor ware. More 
>later.
>
> Mike Freeman
>
>
> On Jun 23, 2013, at 7:58, "Julie Graham" <orvil_7 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> I've only just joined this mailing list and was wondering if anyone 
>> had any info on the IQ pump by prodigy?  when it's to be released or 
>> how
it 
>> works?  Also Roche are to release a new pump in 2014 which has been 
>> designed with the blind and partially sighted in mind or so i'm told.
>>
>> Driving me crazy when I get no answer from the companies.
>>
>> Any information would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Julie Graham
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