[Diabetes-talk] victoza

Mon Mar 25 01:00:31 UTC 2013

During my education, I was taught that the United States has the safest, 
best food supply in the world.  But that was a lie, too!  The things in most 
processed foods (and I'm not talking about additives, but things we consider 
food!) are just scary!

Sandi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>I agree with the trans fats and fructose. It's interesting as to why
> trans fats were added into foods, and it's something that shouldn't have
> ever happened.
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Sandi Ryan
> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:26 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>
>
> Uh, I was agreeing with you, sir!  I don't believe saturated fat is the
> problem in our food at all!  At least unless you eat it in really large
> amounts--but that's true of almost any component.  I'd rather eat the
> real
> food, not the food manufacturers have screwed around with!  A book I'm
> currently reading is convincing me that the problem with increased
> diabetes,
> obesity, heart disease, cancer, and living on earth is fructose.  I know
>
> that since I've pretty much given up sugar, I'm a lot happier and
> healthier,
> and I have not given up fat, except trans fats, which should never have
> been
> in our food!
>
> Sandi
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>
>
>> Sandi:
>>
>> I can show you (or anyone else) a study done by meta-analysis withover
>
>> 300,000 subjects that could find *no* -- yes, no -- link between
>> saturated fat and heart disease. Fat was just an easy target with the
>> consequences you cite below.
>>
>> Nutrition is far more complex than even most nutritionists would like
>> to admit. (grin)
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 10:00 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>> The curmudgeon in this Registered Dietitian says the same thing!  In
>> looking
>>
>> at refried beans several years ago, I discovered that, while the fat
>> in refried beans is saturated (lard, duh!), there just isn't enough to
>
>> worry about, unless you're eating cans of the beans a day!  We're no
>> longer touting low-fat (I never did!), and people are finding
>> themselves much less hungry eating fewer carbs and a bit more fat.
>>
>> Please note that this is not permission to eat fat without limit!
>> Mike is absolutely correct--the issue is portion size and--in the case
>
>> of fat--what have they replaced the fat with?  Generally, diabetics
>> are better off eating
>>
>> regular foods, not those specially made as "diet foods," because they
>> are lower in fat but higher in carbs--particularly sugars!
>>
>> Sandi
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 9:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>
>>> The curmudgeon in me says: so what if they're high-fat? There's an
>>> awful lot of preachiness and precious little actual long-term
>>> evidence in much of the
>>> medical orthodoxy these days. What I'd give for some refried beans
> made
>>> with
>>> real lard again! Actually, lard is quite healthy, contrary to popular
>>> belief.
>>>
>>> The case of eggs should be instructive and cause all of us to say
>>> with
>>> the
>>> bible: prove me now herewith!
>>>
>>> The key is portion control and, yes, exercise.
>>>
>>> But I'll stop there as I do not want to drive those for whom diabetic
>
>>> orthodoxy works from this list. After all, you've elected me to
>>> represent all of you! :-)
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of
>>> Bridgit Pollpeter
>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:41 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>
>>> Do you make burritos with refried beans or something different like
>>> black beans? Refried beans are really high in fat. And when you add
>>> meat back in, you can do lean beef or lean turkey. We usually use
>>> ground turkey around here.
>>>
>>> I was lucky and didn't gain much weight during my pregnancy. I only
>>> gained abut 20 pounds. I continued to exercise during pregnancy, and
>>> I actually ate probably the healthiest I ever have, grin.
>>>
>>> Bridgit
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:19 AM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>
>>>
>>> yes I sure agree with you,
>>> We do all of the above, making burritoes as well with malta grain
>>> tortilla. This time with no meat, beeing Lent for us. I am trying to
>>> get used to the lower numbers, where taking it slowly when I am the
>>> only one at the gym who knows what to do with my dog if anything
>>> should happen while over there. I sure wouldn't want him to go to the
>
>>> pound. I was told to lose the weight slowly this is happening.
>>> Glad you lost allot of your baby gain.
>>> Keep up the swell work.
>>>
>>> Original message:
>>>> When I worked as a fitness instructor and ballet dancer, I told
>>>> people
>>>
>>>> to not look at losing weight as a diet because this implies a
>>>> temporary state of living when food, nutrition and exercise needs to
>
>>>> become an entire lifestyle adjustment that is permanent. One, start
>>>> eating healthy portions. This is key. Two, eat foods that are better
>
>>>> for you
>>>> nutritionally: whole wheat and grains, lean meats, low-fat dairy,
>>> fresh
>>>> fruits and veggies, beans like chickpeas and garbanzo and lima, etc.
>
>>>> Three, exercise needs to be a part of daily living. Activity of any
>>> kind
>>>> to get the heart rate up and then toning. We act like this is so
>>>> difficult, but when you think about it, it's really not. I do allow
>>> for
>>>> one day a week when you can eat what ever food you just can't live
>>>> without, though still in a moderate portion size. Whether it be
>>>> chocolate, buffalo wings, fast-food, cookies, chips-- whatever your
>>>> pleasure is. If needing to lose a large quantity of weight, you can
>>> cut
>>>> back on calories, but in order to remain healthy and maintain weight
>
>>>> loss, you can't yo-yo diet or lose weight then go back to old
>>>> habits. Adjusting our mindsets to a lifestyle change is more
>>>> constructive and productive when trying to lose weight and just
>>>> healthy living in general.
>>>
>>>> Having said all that, I'm finding it difficult to exercise with
>>>> Baby, smile. I get a lot of physical activity in a day just from
>>>> dealing and
>>>
>>>> playing with him, but to actually exercise, boy, it's tough finding
>>>> the time especially time when I'm not exhausted, sigh. Somehow, I've
>
>>>> managed to lose almost all the weight in seven months, but I need to
>
>>>> work on the toning again. Something tells me this is a life-long
>>>> struggle, grin.
>>>
>>>> And of course, we all here have to consider our diabetes. I'm likely
>
>>>> to drop when exercising, so I try to do physical activity after
>>>> meals.
>>>
>>>> I test before and after too, but it can be crummy when a low blood
>>>> sugar, or high one for that matter, gets in the way of exercise.
>>>> Just another level to our daily life, sigh.
>>>
>>>> Bridgit
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:46 PM
>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>
>>>
>>>> Did she get off of it rite away?
>>>> There are so many ways to get weight off, I am doing pretty well.
>>>> Holding my own. I hope it isn't a long night.
>>>
>>>> Original message:
>>>>> Linda had a very similar experience.  This opinion is completely
>>>>> uninformed by facts, but I almost think that this class of drug is
>>>>> almost like a chemical lapband in that it causes your stomach to
>>>>> fill
>>>
>>>>> quickly -- very quickly in some cases.  My sympathies.  We've had
>>>>> the
>>>
>>>>> same experience here, and it's not very pleasant.
>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:32 PM
>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>
>>>>> I started the encrease last night, taking it again this evening.
>>>>> Had dinner then gave it all back. I'm not playing this game until
>>>>> the second one decides to settle. Will call over tomorrow. I felt
>>>>> so tired, really drained. I want my happy self back again. I also
>>>>> have burning in the chest. I think this is from acid.
>>>>> Glad for those who can take it.
>>>>> I played the game now game is over.
>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> --Dar
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