[Diabetes-talk] victoza

Mon Mar 25 14:51:32 UTC 2013

And our foods are laced with prebiotics, probiotics, and other supplements 
not proven to do anything--just thought to improve health.  That's not 
agriculture, that's marketing manufactured goods, whether they do what they 
say or not.  Hmm!  So much for truth in advertising!

Sandi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Shelton" <rshelton1 at gmail.com>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza

>I hear what you say, and the "green revolution" probably saved millions if
> not billions of children from starving to death, but the tools of today 
> are
> far more powerful.  The genes that render crops impervious to herbicides 
> can
> and do transfer to weeds.  It's not simple at all, and our wisest don't 
> know
> what to do.  And in the mean time, research and development chases the
> almighty dollar without as much as a passing thought of what it will mean 
> to
> our children's children's children.
>
> Oh, but relax and be merry.  This will all be an afterthought one day.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Mike Freeman
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:56 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>
> Up with genetic engineering! (grin) After all, all our agriculture -- yes,
> even that of ten thousand years ago -- was through genetically engineered
> products: the "rachis" that holds wheat kernels on the plants is too 
> strong
> to harvest easily on the original einkorn wheat of the Middle East. (grin)
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Pollpeter
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 7:30 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>
> Well, yes, by basic definition. But I'm speaking of foods with very little
> or nothing added. My husband and I use to eat regular eggs, but when we
> switched to organic, hormone-free eggs, we both immediately noticed a
> difference. The same with meat and fruits and veggies.
>
> I also followed advice from doctors about this too, and while we don't eat
> everything organic, we try our best, and we try to avoid food with high
> sodium contents, corn syrup and high fats. Mostly, we don't like the
> hormones added into most foods, and we try to avoid genetically enhanced
> foods. We don't push our food opinions on others, nor do we follow some
> crazy organic way of living. Through research, advice from others and our
> own personal experience, we have found eating a certain way to work for 
> us.
> But again, we still indulge from time-to-time. Like the basket of Easter
> candy sitting on the table, grin.
>
> And it's not just food for us, but like anything, it's all in moderation.
>
> You can be wrong on both sides too, huge grin.
>
> Ultimately, if you're healthy, that's all that matters no matter how you 
> get
> there.
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Mike Freeman
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:54 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>
>
> My meaning is that *everything* that comes from animals or plants
> *already* is organic -- unless you like eating rocks! "Organic" means that
> whatever it is has carbon in it. I'm heaping scorn upon those who misuse
> scientific terminology. And I have absolutely no objections to chemicals 
> in
> my food. Frankly, with the possible exception of such things as fresh
> vegetables, I don't find quite the taste differences between so-called
> organic stuff and what we normally buy in the store as aficionados do. 
> It's
> sorta like what happens when beer conoisseurs taste-test beers under
> scientific conditions. With the exception of noticing the differences
> between differently brewed beers, they most often can't tell the 
> difference.
> It's the label and price that stimulates them! In fact, free-range or
> barnyard-raised chickens are tougher -- just as wild turkey is a lot
> stringier than domestically-raised turkey.
>
> But to each his/her own. Have fun paying far too much for the satisfaction
> of misusing a word! (huge grin)
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Pollpeter
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:36 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>
> Ever had organic? It usually taste so much better. Try organic eggs; 
> delish,
> smile. And organic fresh fruits and veggies-- never going back, grin.
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Mike Freeman
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 7:58 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>
>
> Organic? I'd better stop before my fingers type something profane!
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Pollpeter
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 4:36 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>
> I agree, though I still recommend not eating high fat foods frequently.
> But yes, portion control and exercise are key for everyone.
>
> And I was told that eggs are actually very good for you, and the 
> cholesterol
> contained in eggs is a good kind that is good for you. Foods high in
> saturated fats have the bad cholesterol we are told to avoid.
>
> Like I said, I believe in moderation, but don't think we should completely
> cut anything from our diet if we enjoy it.
>
> And yes, lard is not as bad for you when in pure form. Like using real
> butter is better than margarine since real butter is not loaded with
> synthetic properties. I use real forms of food and ingredients as much as
> possible since it usually doesn't have a bunch of synthetic stuff. I also 
> do
> organic as possible, which is basically what the lard thing comes down 
> too.
> This is why I'm making my own baby food, grin.
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Mike Freeman
> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 9:09 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>
>
> The curmudgeon in me says: so what if they're high-fat? There's an awful 
> lot
> of preachiness and precious little actual long-term evidence in much of 
> the
> medical orthodoxy these days. What I'd give for some refried beans made 
> with
> real lard again! Actually, lard is quite healthy, contrary to popular
> belief.
>
> The case of eggs should be instructive and cause all of us to say with the
> bible: prove me now herewith!
>
> The key is portion control and, yes, exercise.
>
> But I'll stop there as I do not want to drive those for whom diabetic
> orthodoxy works from this list. After all, you've elected me to represent
> all of you! :-)
>
> Mike
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Pollpeter
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:41 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>
> Do you make burritos with refried beans or something different like black
> beans? Refried beans are really high in fat. And when you add meat back 
> in,
> you can do lean beef or lean turkey. We usually use ground turkey around
> here.
>
> I was lucky and didn't gain much weight during my pregnancy. I only gained
> abut 20 pounds. I continued to exercise during pregnancy, and I actually 
> ate
> probably the healthiest I ever have, grin.
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
> d
> m gina
> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:19 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>
>
> yes I sure agree with you,
> We do all of the above, making burritoes as well with malta grain 
> tortilla.
> This time with no meat, beeing Lent for us. I am trying to get used to the
> lower numbers, where taking it slowly when I am the only one at the gym 
> who
> knows what to do with my dog if anything should happen while over there.
> I sure wouldn't want him to go to the pound.
> I was told to lose the weight slowly this is happening.
> Glad you lost allot of your baby gain.
> Keep up the swell work.
>
> Original message:
>> When I worked as a fitness instructor and ballet dancer, I told people
>
>> to not look at losing weight as a diet because this implies a
>> temporary state of living when food, nutrition and exercise needs to
>> become an entire lifestyle adjustment that is permanent. One, start
>> eating healthy portions. This is key. Two, eat foods that are better
>> for you
>> nutritionally: whole wheat and grains, lean meats, low-fat dairy,
> fresh
>> fruits and veggies, beans like chickpeas and garbanzo and lima, etc.
>> Three, exercise needs to be a part of daily living. Activity of any
> kind
>> to get the heart rate up and then toning. We act like this is so
>> difficult, but when you think about it, it's really not. I do allow
> for
>> one day a week when you can eat what ever food you just can't live
>> without, though still in a moderate portion size. Whether it be
>> chocolate, buffalo wings, fast-food, cookies, chips-- whatever your
>> pleasure is. If needing to lose a large quantity of weight, you can
> cut
>> back on calories, but in order to remain healthy and maintain weight
>> loss, you can't yo-yo diet or lose weight then go back to old habits.
>> Adjusting our mindsets to a lifestyle change is more constructive and
>> productive when trying to lose weight and just healthy living in
>> general.
>
>> Having said all that, I'm finding it difficult to exercise with Baby,
>> smile. I get a lot of physical activity in a day just from dealing and
>
>> playing with him, but to actually exercise, boy, it's tough finding
>> the time especially time when I'm not exhausted, sigh. Somehow, I've
>> managed to lose almost all the weight in seven months, but I need to
>> work on the toning again. Something tells me this is a life-long
>> struggle, grin.
>
>> And of course, we all here have to consider our diabetes. I'm likely
>> to drop when exercising, so I try to do physical activity after meals.
>
>> I test before and after too, but it can be crummy when a low blood
>> sugar, or high one for that matter, gets in the way of exercise. Just
>> another level to our daily life, sigh.
>
>> Bridgit
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of d m gina
>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:46 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>
>
>> Did she get off of it rite away?
>> There are so many ways to get weight off, I am doing pretty well.
>> Holding my own. I hope it isn't a long night.
>
>> Original message:
>>> Linda had a very similar experience.  This opinion is completely
>>> uninformed by facts, but I almost think that this class of drug is
>>> almost like a chemical lapband in that it causes your stomach to fill
>
>>> quickly -- very quickly in some cases.  My sympathies.  We've had the
>
>>> same experience here, and it's not very pleasant.
>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:32 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>
>>> I started the encrease last night, taking it again this evening. Had
>>> dinner then gave it all back. I'm not playing this game until the
>>> second one decides to settle. Will call over tomorrow. I felt so
>>> tired, really drained. I want my happy self back again.
>>> I also have burning in the chest.
>>> I think this is from acid.
>>> Glad for those who can take it.
>>> I played the game now game is over.
>
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>>> every sinner has a future
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