[Diabetes-talk] victoza

[Joy Stigile]

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sandi Ryan" <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza


> And our foods are laced with prebiotics, probiotics, and other supplements 
> not proven to do anything--just thought to improve health.  That's not 
> agriculture, that's marketing manufactured goods, whether they do what 
> they say or not.  Hmm!  So much for truth in advertising!
>
> Sandi
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert Shelton" <rshelton1 at gmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>
>
>>I hear what you say, and the "green revolution" probably saved millions if
>> not billions of children from starving to death, but the tools of today 
>> are
>> far more powerful.  The genes that render crops impervious to herbicides 
>> can
>> and do transfer to weeds.  It's not simple at all, and our wisest don't 
>> know
>> what to do.  And in the mean time, research and development chases the
>> almighty dollar without as much as a passing thought of what it will mean 
>> to
>> our children's children's children.
>>
>> Oh, but relax and be merry.  This will all be an afterthought one day.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>> Of
>> Mike Freeman
>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:56 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>> Up with genetic engineering! (grin) After all, all our agriculture --  
>> yes,
>> even that of ten thousand years ago -- was through genetically engineered
>> products: the "rachis" that holds wheat kernels on the plants is too 
>> strong
>> to harvest easily on the original einkorn wheat of the Middle East. 
>> (grin)
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>> Of
>> Bridgit Pollpeter
>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 7:30 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>> Well, yes, by basic definition. But I'm speaking of foods with very 
>> little
>> or nothing added. My husband and I use to eat regular eggs, but when we
>> switched to organic, hormone-free eggs, we both immediately noticed a
>> difference. The same with meat and fruits and veggies.
>>
>> I also followed advice from doctors about this too, and while we don't 
>> eat
>> everything organic, we try our best, and we try to avoid food with high
>> sodium contents, corn syrup and high fats. Mostly, we don't like the
>> hormones added into most foods, and we try to avoid genetically enhanced
>> foods. We don't push our food opinions on others, nor do we follow some
>> crazy organic way of living. Through research, advice from others and our
>> own personal experience, we have found eating a certain way to work for 
>> us.
>> But again, we still indulge from time-to-time. Like the basket of Easter
>> candy sitting on the table, grin.
>>
>> And it's not just food for us, but like anything, it's all in moderation.
>>
>> You can be wrong on both sides too, huge grin.
>>
>> Ultimately, if you're healthy, that's all that matters no matter how you 
>> get
>> there.
>>
>> Bridgit
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>> Of
>> Mike Freeman
>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:54 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>
>> My meaning is that *everything* that comes from animals or plants
>> *already* is organic -- unless you like eating rocks! "Organic" means 
>> that
>> whatever it is has carbon in it. I'm heaping scorn upon those who misuse
>> scientific terminology. And I have absolutely no objections to chemicals 
>> in
>> my food. Frankly, with the possible exception of such things as fresh
>> vegetables, I don't find quite the taste differences between so-called
>> organic stuff and what we normally buy in the store as aficionados do. 
>> It's
>> sorta like what happens when beer conoisseurs taste-test beers under
>> scientific conditions. With the exception of noticing the differences
>> between differently brewed beers, they most often can't tell the 
>> difference.
>> It's the label and price that stimulates them! In fact, free-range or
>> barnyard-raised chickens are tougher -- just as wild turkey is a lot
>> stringier than domestically-raised turkey.
>>
>> But to each his/her own. Have fun paying far too much for the 
>> satisfaction
>> of misusing a word! (huge grin)
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>> Of
>> Bridgit Pollpeter
>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:36 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>> Ever had organic? It usually taste so much better. Try organic eggs; 
>> delish,
>> smile. And organic fresh fruits and veggies-- never going back, grin.
>>
>> Bridgit
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>> Of
>> Mike Freeman
>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 7:58 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>
>> Organic? I'd better stop before my fingers type something profane!
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>> Of
>> Bridgit Pollpeter
>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 4:36 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>> I agree, though I still recommend not eating high fat foods frequently.
>> But yes, portion control and exercise are key for everyone.
>>
>> And I was told that eggs are actually very good for you, and the 
>> cholesterol
>> contained in eggs is a good kind that is good for you. Foods high in
>> saturated fats have the bad cholesterol we are told to avoid.
>>
>> Like I said, I believe in moderation, but don't think we should 
>> completely
>> cut anything from our diet if we enjoy it.
>>
>> And yes, lard is not as bad for you when in pure form. Like using real
>> butter is better than margarine since real butter is not loaded with
>> synthetic properties. I use real forms of food and ingredients as much as
>> possible since it usually doesn't have a bunch of synthetic stuff. I also 
>> do
>> organic as possible, which is basically what the lard thing comes down 
>> too.
>> This is why I'm making my own baby food, grin.
>>
>> Bridgit
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>> Of
>> Mike Freeman
>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 9:09 AM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>
>> The curmudgeon in me says: so what if they're high-fat? There's an awful 
>> lot
>> of preachiness and precious little actual long-term evidence in much of 
>> the
>> medical orthodoxy these days. What I'd give for some refried beans made 
>> with
>> real lard again! Actually, lard is quite healthy, contrary to popular
>> belief.
>>
>> The case of eggs should be instructive and cause all of us to say with 
>> the
>> bible: prove me now herewith!
>>
>> The key is portion control and, yes, exercise.
>>
>> But I'll stop there as I do not want to drive those for whom diabetic
>> orthodoxy works from this list. After all, you've elected me to represent
>> all of you! :-)
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>> Of
>> Bridgit Pollpeter
>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:41 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>> Do you make burritos with refried beans or something different like black
>> beans? Refried beans are really high in fat. And when you add meat back 
>> in,
>> you can do lean beef or lean turkey. We usually use ground turkey around
>> here.
>>
>> I was lucky and didn't gain much weight during my pregnancy. I only 
>> gained
>> abut 20 pounds. I continued to exercise during pregnancy, and I actually 
>> ate
>> probably the healthiest I ever have, grin.
>>
>> Bridgit
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
>> Of d
>> m gina
>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:19 AM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>
>> yes I sure agree with you,
>> We do all of the above, making burritoes as well with malta grain 
>> tortilla.
>> This time with no meat, beeing Lent for us. I am trying to get used to 
>> the
>> lower numbers, where taking it slowly when I am the only one at the gym 
>> who
>> knows what to do with my dog if anything should happen while over there.
>> I sure wouldn't want him to go to the pound.
>> I was told to lose the weight slowly this is happening.
>> Glad you lost allot of your baby gain.
>> Keep up the swell work.
>>
>> Original message:
>>> When I worked as a fitness instructor and ballet dancer, I told people
>>
>>> to not look at losing weight as a diet because this implies a
>>> temporary state of living when food, nutrition and exercise needs to
>>> become an entire lifestyle adjustment that is permanent. One, start
>>> eating healthy portions. This is key. Two, eat foods that are better
>>> for you
>>> nutritionally: whole wheat and grains, lean meats, low-fat dairy,
>> fresh
>>> fruits and veggies, beans like chickpeas and garbanzo and lima, etc.
>>> Three, exercise needs to be a part of daily living. Activity of any
>> kind
>>> to get the heart rate up and then toning. We act like this is so
>>> difficult, but when you think about it, it's really not. I do allow
>> for
>>> one day a week when you can eat what ever food you just can't live
>>> without, though still in a moderate portion size. Whether it be
>>> chocolate, buffalo wings, fast-food, cookies, chips-- whatever your
>>> pleasure is. If needing to lose a large quantity of weight, you can
>> cut
>>> back on calories, but in order to remain healthy and maintain weight
>>> loss, you can't yo-yo diet or lose weight then go back to old habits.
>>> Adjusting our mindsets to a lifestyle change is more constructive and
>>> productive when trying to lose weight and just healthy living in
>>> general.
>>
>>> Having said all that, I'm finding it difficult to exercise with Baby,
>>> smile. I get a lot of physical activity in a day just from dealing and
>>
>>> playing with him, but to actually exercise, boy, it's tough finding
>>> the time especially time when I'm not exhausted, sigh. Somehow, I've
>>> managed to lose almost all the weight in seven months, but I need to
>>> work on the toning again. Something tells me this is a life-long
>>> struggle, grin.
>>
>>> And of course, we all here have to consider our diabetes. I'm likely
>>> to drop when exercising, so I try to do physical activity after meals.
>>
>>> I test before and after too, but it can be crummy when a low blood
>>> sugar, or high one for that matter, gets in the way of exercise. Just
>>> another level to our daily life, sigh.
>>
>>> Bridgit
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:46 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>
>>> Did she get off of it rite away?
>>> There are so many ways to get weight off, I am doing pretty well.
>>> Holding my own. I hope it isn't a long night.
>>
>>> Original message:
>>>> Linda had a very similar experience.  This opinion is completely
>>>> uninformed by facts, but I almost think that this class of drug is
>>>> almost like a chemical lapband in that it causes your stomach to fill
>>
>>>> quickly -- very quickly in some cases.  My sympathies.  We've had the
>>
>>>> same experience here, and it's not very pleasant.
>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:32 PM
>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>
>>>> I started the encrease last night, taking it again this evening. Had
>>>> dinner then gave it all back. I'm not playing this game until the
>>>> second one decides to settle. Will call over tomorrow. I felt so
>>>> tired, really drained. I want my happy self back again.
>>>> I also have burning in the chest.
>>>> I think this is from acid.
>>>> Glad for those who can take it.
>>>> I played the game now game is over.
>>
>>>> --
>>>> --Dar
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>>>> every saint has a past
>>>> every sinner has a future
>>
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