[Diabetes-talk] victoza
d m gina
dmgina at samobile.net
Mon Mar 25 18:45:18 UTC 2013
How nice you can drive over.
We will have three in our room, so we will all work together I am sure.
Thanks for all the advice.
Original message:
> Last year my husband and I drove to convention. We brought along a big
> cooler full of eggs, some bacon, salad veggies, little pouches of chicken,
> ham, etc., and we brought along our Keurig single-cup coffeemaker and a tiny
> electric frying pan. We replenished food as needed at local grocery stores
> and ate breakfast and lunch in our room. At dinner we went out to a local
> restaurant and enjoyed reasonable food.
> If you didn't drive, you could probably ship the cooler, pan, and any canned
> goods ahead, then buy food when you get there. The fridge is an even better
> idea.
> If you want to eat breakfast and lunch out and not have the hassle of making
> your own food, you can usually get eggs or cereal or an English muffin, etc.
> from room service or the restaurant, though hotel food is horribly
> expensive. And there's usually a good place to get a salad for lunch, or a
> grilled chicken or burger sandwich. I always figure the trick for me is not
> to just go all out, have dessert with every meal, eat huge portions, and
> come home with high blood sugar and a tighter waistband. Eat what you like,
> but stay aware of portions. In my opinion, skipping French fries and sugary
> drinks goes a long way in that direction!
> Sandi
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>> It can get pricey if you eat out all the time. We usually pack food, and
>> the last time we went, we had food shipped ahead of us. We brought
>> things like granola bars, pretzels, water, juice, bread and lunchmeat
>> and cheese. Also check into local eateries to find out prices. Some
>> people treat it like a vaca and eat out for every meal, while others
>> prefer to save on the expense of food. It's all what you prefer. Most
>> rooms do have a mini fridge, and most places will provide one if you
>> request it. Since I have insulin, I typically get one since it needs to
>> be kept in the fridge. This means I can keep food in it as well, smile.
>> Bridgit
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of d m gina
>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:35 PM
>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>> Food food food,
>> Asking a question on behalf of food.
>> What do all of you do when you are on convention.
>> I know what Mike does for one of the evenings, watches what he does
>> threw out the day then off he goes for the lovely stake and potatoes. Do
>> you go find a place for the wonderful egg, or bowl of serial for
>> breakfast? Do you buy the gronala bar bringing it with you? How much
>> cheese sticks do you bring with you? To make sure you have enough until
>> you get to the destenation? Is there a corner cafe you can go to that
>> won't take all you brought
>> just to have a meal?
>> Thanks,
>> Original message:
>>> Before this gets too crazy and sounding like we're a bunch of "granola
>>> bars", permit me to point out that before insecticides, one had to cut
>>> open and examine *every* apple to avoid worms, you could get
>>> Trichanosis from pork and the reason you boiled hell out of green
>>> beans -- and still do -- is to avoid botulism. And I can still
>>> remember when iodized salt was considered a miracle. And as late as
>>> the 1920's, one of the means of spreading tuberculosis was via
>>> "natural" -- that is, non-Pasteurized -- milk right out of a healthy
>>> cow.
>>> And dare I remind us all that bacteria make our "human" insulin for
>>> us?
>>> Mike
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Bridgit Pollpeter
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:35 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>> Oh, I know. When you really take time to investigate this stuff, it's
>>> quite appalling. Like anything, you can't get to caught up in any
>>> craze, but what is allowed to be placed in food including in America,
>>> it makes you never want to eat anything processed with additives and
>>> synthetic crap.
>>> And our food handling practices aren't as sophisticated as many would
>>> like to think. Only a handful of states have any guidelines or laws
>>> regulating food transportation and distribution. It's not a Federal
>>> mandate like we think. Food being transported to markets and
>>> restaurants usually has no one checking at weigh stations or other
>>> places. If a state chooses to practice this, it does, but very few do.
>>> Bridgit
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:01 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>> During my education, I was taught that the United States has the
>>> safest,
>>> best food supply in the world. But that was a lie, too! The things
>>> in most processed foods (and I'm not talking about additives, but
>>> things we consider
>>> food!) are just scary!
>>> Sandi
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:49 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>> I agree with the trans fats and fructose. It's interesting as to why
>>>> trans fats were added into foods, and it's something that shouldn't
>>>> have ever happened.
>>>> Bridgit
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:26 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>> Uh, I was agreeing with you, sir! I don't believe saturated fat is
>>>> the problem in our food at all! At least unless you eat it in really
>>>> large amounts--but that's true of almost any component. I'd rather
>>>> eat the real food, not the food manufacturers have screwed around
>>>> with! A book I'm currently reading is convincing me that the problem
>>>> with increased diabetes, obesity, heart disease, cancer, and living
>>>> on earth is fructose. I
>>> know
>>>> that since I've pretty much given up sugar, I'm a lot happier and
>>>> healthier, and I have not given up fat, except trans fats, which
>>>> should never have been in our food!
>>>> Sandi
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:08 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>> Sandi:
>>>>> I can show you (or anyone else) a study done by meta-analysis
>>>>> withover
>>>>> 300,000 subjects that could find *no* -- yes, no -- link between
>>>>> saturated fat and heart disease. Fat was just an easy target with
>>>>> the
>>>>> consequences you cite below.
>>>>> Nutrition is far more complex than even most nutritionists would
>>>>> like
>>>>> to admit. (grin)
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 10:00 AM
>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>> The curmudgeon in this Registered Dietitian says the same thing! In
>>>>> looking
>>>>> at refried beans several years ago, I discovered that, while the fat
>>>>> in refried beans is saturated (lard, duh!), there just isn't enough
>>>>> to
>>>>> worry about, unless you're eating cans of the beans a day! We're no
>>>>> longer touting low-fat (I never did!), and people are finding
>>>>> themselves much less hungry eating fewer carbs and a bit more fat.
>>>>> Please note that this is not permission to eat fat without limit!
>>>>> Mike is absolutely correct--the issue is portion size and--in the
>>>>> case
>>>>> of fat--what have they replaced the fat with? Generally, diabetics
>>>>> are better off eating
>>>>> regular foods, not those specially made as "diet foods," because
>>>>> they
>>>>> are lower in fat but higher in carbs--particularly sugars!
>>>>> Sandi
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 9:09 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>> The curmudgeon in me says: so what if they're high-fat? There's an
>>>>>> awful lot of preachiness and precious little actual long-term
>>>>>> evidence in much of the medical orthodoxy these days. What I'd give
>>>>>> for some refried beans
>>>> made
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> real lard again! Actually, lard is quite healthy, contrary to
>>>>>> popular belief.
>>>>>> The case of eggs should be instructive and cause all of us to say
>>>>>> with the
>>>>>> bible: prove me now herewith!
>>>>>> The key is portion control and, yes, exercise.
>>>>>> But I'll stop there as I do not want to drive those for whom
>>>>>> diabetic
>>>>>> orthodoxy works from this list. After all, you've elected me to
>>>>>> represent all of you! :-)
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Bridgit Pollpeter
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:41 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>> Do you make burritos with refried beans or something different like
>>>>>> black beans? Refried beans are really high in fat. And when you add
>>>>>> meat back in, you can do lean beef or lean turkey. We usually use
>>>>>> ground turkey around here.
>>>>>> I was lucky and didn't gain much weight during my pregnancy. I only
>>>>>> gained abut 20 pounds. I continued to exercise during pregnancy,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> I actually ate probably the healthiest I ever have, grin.
>>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:19 AM
>>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>> yes I sure agree with you,
>>>>>> We do all of the above, making burritoes as well with malta grain
>>>>>> tortilla. This time with no meat, beeing Lent for us. I am trying
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> get used to the lower numbers, where taking it slowly when I am the
>>>>>> only one at the gym who knows what to do with my dog if anything
>>>>>> should happen while over there. I sure wouldn't want him to go to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> pound. I was told to lose the weight slowly this is happening. Glad
>>>>>> you lost allot of your baby gain. Keep up the swell work.
>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>> When I worked as a fitness instructor and ballet dancer, I told
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> to not look at losing weight as a diet because this implies a
>>>>>>> temporary state of living when food, nutrition and exercise needs
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> become an entire lifestyle adjustment that is permanent. One,
>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>> eating healthy portions. This is key. Two, eat foods that are
>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>> for you
>>>>>>> nutritionally: whole wheat and grains, lean meats, low-fat dairy,
>>>>>> fresh
>>>>>>> fruits and veggies, beans like chickpeas and garbanzo and lima,
>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>> Three, exercise needs to be a part of daily living. Activity of
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>> kind
>>>>>>> to get the heart rate up and then toning. We act like this is so
>>>>>>> difficult, but when you think about it, it's really not. I do
>>>>>>> allow
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> one day a week when you can eat what ever food you just can't live
>>>>>>> without, though still in a moderate portion size. Whether it be
>>>>>>> chocolate, buffalo wings, fast-food, cookies, chips-- whatever
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> pleasure is. If needing to lose a large quantity of weight, you
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>> cut
>>>>>>> back on calories, but in order to remain healthy and maintain
>>>>>>> weight
>>>>>>> loss, you can't yo-yo diet or lose weight then go back to old
>>>>>>> habits. Adjusting our mindsets to a lifestyle change is more
>>>>>>> constructive and productive when trying to lose weight and just
>>>>>>> healthy living in general.
>>>>>>> Having said all that, I'm finding it difficult to exercise with
>>>>>>> Baby, smile. I get a lot of physical activity in a day just from
>>>>>>> dealing and
>>>>>>> playing with him, but to actually exercise, boy, it's tough
>>>>>>> finding
>>>>>>> the time especially time when I'm not exhausted, sigh. Somehow,
>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>> managed to lose almost all the weight in seven months, but I need
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> work on the toning again. Something tells me this is a life-long
>>>>>>> struggle, grin.
>>>>>>> And of course, we all here have to consider our diabetes. I'm
>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>> to drop when exercising, so I try to do physical activity after
>>>>>>> meals.
>>>>>>> I test before and after too, but it can be crummy when a low blood
>>>>>>> sugar, or high one for that matter, gets in the way of exercise.
>>>>>>> Just another level to our daily life, sigh.
>>>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:46 PM
>>>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>>> Did she get off of it rite away?
>>>>>>> There are so many ways to get weight off, I am doing pretty well.
>>>>>>> Holding my own. I hope it isn't a long night.
>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>> Linda had a very similar experience. This opinion is completely
>>>>>>>> uninformed by facts, but I almost think that this class of drug
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> almost like a chemical lapband in that it causes your stomach to
>>>>>>>> fill
>>>>>>>> quickly -- very quickly in some cases. My sympathies. We've had
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> same experience here, and it's not very pleasant.
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:32 PM
>>>>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>>>> I started the encrease last night, taking it again this evening.
>>>>>>>> Had dinner then gave it all back. I'm not playing this game until
>>>>>>>> the second one decides to settle. Will call over tomorrow. I felt
>>>>>>>> so tired, really drained. I want my happy self back again. I also
>>>>>>>> have burning in the chest. I think this is from acid. Glad for
>>>>>>>> those who can take it. I played the game now game is over.
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