[Diabetes-talk] Sugar drinks

Tue Mar 26 20:21:30 UTC 2013

No, I wouldn't think it would happen in Type 21's, because there's no 
insulin made in their bodies.  And it's not a problem that raises your blood 
sugar--it raises your insulin levels, leading to increased fat storage.  So 
it's a big deal for Type 2's.

Sandi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Sugar drinks

> Wow, that's crazy. I'm assuming it's not the same for type ones? Again,
> I have never noticed higher sugars when drinking diet stuff, but this
> really puts it all into perspective.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
> Of Sandi Ryan
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 11:49 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Sugar drinks
>
>
> The problem with diet drinks is that your body prepares, when something
> sweet comes along, by cranking out insulin.  In the case of diet pop,
> the
> sugar doesn't come, and the insulin, in Type 2's, is set circulating in
> the
> blood with nothing to use it up.  The cells don't need it to help them
> work
> through glucose (since none came in), and this process, repeated again
> and
> again leads to insulin resistance--the basis of much of Type 2 diabetes.
>
> Sandi
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 1:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Sugar drinks
>
>
>> I've heard research discussed stating that it's not the sugar that's
>> the problem with diet drinks, it's the sweet taste that causes the
>> body to react like the body is getting sugar even though that's not
>> actually the case.
>>
>> On Tue, 26 Mar 2013, Bridgit Pollpeter wrote:
>>
>>> You mention not drinking sugar drinks, and this makes me think of
>>> something. Is this really a problem for diabetics? Of course this is
>>> rhetorical, but what's the problem with diet drinks? Maybe it's
>>> because I've been diabetic since the age of four, but I always opt
>>> for diet drinks or water. I know so many diabetics who don't do this,
>
>>> and I guess I don't understand why it's such a big deal. I always
>>> assumed it was a given a diabetic  would avoid the sugary drinks but
>>> guess not... And it's kind of like alcohol, it's empty calories, and
>>> I'd rather spend calories on actual food than a drink, grin.
>>>
>>> Bridgit
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 10:00 AM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>
>>>
>>> Last year my husband and I drove to convention.  We brought along a
>>> big cooler full of eggs, some bacon, salad veggies, little pouches of
>
>>> chicken, ham, etc., and we brought along our Keurig single-cup
>>> coffeemaker and a tiny
>>> electric frying pan.  We replenished food as needed at local grocery
>>> stores
>>> and ate breakfast and lunch in our room.  At dinner we went out to a
>>> local
>>> restaurant and enjoyed reasonable food.
>>>
>>> If you didn't drive, you could probably ship the cooler, pan, and any
>
>>> canned goods ahead, then buy food when you get there.  The fridge is
>>> an even better
>>> idea.
>>>
>>> If you want to eat breakfast and lunch out and not have the hassle of
>
>>> making your own food, you can usually get eggs or cereal or an
>>> English muffin, etc.
>>> from room service or the restaurant, though hotel food is horribly
>>> expensive.  And there's usually a good place to get a salad for
> lunch,
>>> or a
>>> grilled chicken or burger sandwich.  I always figure the trick for me
> is
>>> not
>>> to just go all out, have dessert with every meal, eat huge portions,
> and
>>>
>>> come home with high blood sugar and a tighter waistband.  Eat what
>>> you like, but stay aware of portions.  In my opinion, skipping French
>
>>> fries and sugary
>>> drinks goes a long way in that direction!
>>>
>>> Sandi
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>
>>>
>>> > It can get pricey if you eat out all the time. We usually pack
>>> > food, and the last time we went, we had food shipped ahead of us.
>>> > We brought
>>>
>>> > things like granola bars, pretzels, water, juice, bread and
>>> > lunchmeat and cheese. Also check into local eateries to find out
>>> > prices. Some people treat it like a vaca and eat out for every
>>> > meal, while others prefer to save on the expense of food. It's all
>>> > what you prefer. Most rooms do have a mini fridge, and most places
>>> > will provide one if you request it. Since I have insulin, I
>>> > typically get one since it needs to be kept in the fridge. This
>>> > means I can keep food in it as well, smile.
>>> >
>>> > Bridgit
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> > Behalf Of d m gina
>>> > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:35 PM
>>> > To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Food food food,
>>> > Asking a question on behalf of food.
>>> > What do all of you do when you are on convention.
>>> > I know what Mike does for one of the evenings, watches what he does
>
>>> > threw out the day then off he goes for the lovely stake and
>>> > potatoes. Do you go find a place for the wonderful egg, or bowl of
>>> > serial for breakfast? Do you buy the gronala bar bringing it with
>>> > you? How much cheese sticks do you bring with you? To make sure you
>
>>> > have enough until you get to the destenation? Is there a corner
>>> > cafe you can go to
>>>
>>> > that won't take all you brought just to have a meal? Thanks,
>>> >
>>> > Original message:
>>> >> Before this gets too crazy and sounding like we're a bunch of
>>> >> "granola
>>> >
>>> >> bars", permit me to point out that before insecticides, one had to
>
>>> >> cut
>>> >
>>> >> open and examine *every* apple to avoid worms, you could get
>>> >> Trichanosis from pork and the reason you boiled hell out of green
>>> >> beans -- and still do -- is to avoid botulism. And I can still
>>> >> remember when iodized salt was considered a miracle. And as late
>>> >> as the 1920's, one of the means of spreading tuberculosis was via
>>> >> "natural" -- that is, non-Pasteurized -- milk right out of a
>>> >> healthy cow.
>>> >
>>> >> And dare I remind us all that bacteria make our "human" insulin
>>> >> for us?
>>> >
>>> >> Mike
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> >> Behalf Of Bridgit Pollpeter
>>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:35 PM
>>> >> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>> >
>>> >> Oh, I know. When you really take time to investigate this stuff,
>>> >> it's
>>>
>>> >> quite appalling. Like anything, you can't get to caught up in any
>>> >> craze, but what is allowed to be placed in food including in
>>> >> America,
>>>
>>> >> it makes you never want to eat anything processed with additives
>>> >> and synthetic crap.
>>> >
>>> >> And our food handling practices aren't as sophisticated as many
>>> >> would
>>>
>>> >> like to think. Only a handful of states have any guidelines or
>>> >> laws regulating food transportation and distribution. It's not a
>>> >> Federal mandate like we think. Food being transported to markets
>>> >> and restaurants usually has no one checking at weigh stations or
>>> >> other places. If a state chooses to practice this, it does, but
>>> >> very few do.
>>> >
>>> >> Bridgit
>>> >
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> >> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:01 PM
>>> >> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> During my education, I was taught that the United States has the
>>> >> safest,
>>> >
>>> >> best food supply in the world.  But that was a lie, too!  The
>>> >> things in most processed foods (and I'm not talking about
>>> >> additives, but things we consider
>>> >> food!) are just scary!
>>> >
>>> >> Sandi
>>> >
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>> >> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:49 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>> I agree with the trans fats and fructose. It's interesting as to
>>> >>> why
>>>
>>> >>> trans fats were added into foods, and it's something that
>>> >>> shouldn't have  ever happened.
>>> >
>>> >>> Bridgit
>>> >
>>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> >>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:26 PM
>>> >>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>> Uh, I was agreeing with you, sir!  I don't believe saturated fat
>>> >>> is the problem in our food at all!  At least unless you eat it in
>
>>> >>> really
>>> >
>>> >>> large amounts--but that's true of almost any component.  I'd
>>> >>> rather eat the real food, not the food manufacturers have screwed
>
>>> >>> around with!  A book I'm currently reading is convincing me that
>>> >>> the problem
>>> >
>>> >>> with increased diabetes, obesity, heart disease, cancer, and
>>> >>> living on earth is fructose.  I
>>> >> know
>>> >
>>> >>> that since I've pretty much given up sugar, I'm a lot happier and
>
>>> >>> healthier, and I have not given up fat, except trans fats, which
>>> >>> should never have been in our food!
>>> >
>>> >>> Sandi
>>> >
>>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>> >>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:08 PM
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>>> Sandi:
>>> >
>>> >>>> I can show you (or anyone else) a study done by meta-analysis
>>> >>>> withover
>>> >
>>> >>>> 300,000 subjects that could find *no* -- yes, no -- link between
>
>>> >>>> saturated fat and heart disease. Fat was just an easy target
>>> >>>> with the
>>> >
>>> >>>> consequences you cite below.
>>> >
>>> >>>> Nutrition is far more complex than even most nutritionists would
>
>>> >>>> like
>>> >
>>> >>>> to admit. (grin)
>>> >
>>> >>>> Mike
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>
>>> >>>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 10:00 AM
>>> >>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>> >
>>> >>>> The curmudgeon in this Registered Dietitian says the same thing!
>
>>> >>>> In
>>> >
>>> >>>> looking
>>> >
>>> >>>> at refried beans several years ago, I discovered that, while the
>
>>> >>>> fat
>>> >
>>> >>>> in refried beans is saturated (lard, duh!), there just isn't
>>> >>>> enough
>>>
>>> >>>> to
>>> >
>>> >>>> worry about, unless you're eating cans of the beans a day!
>>> >>>> We're no
>>> >
>>> >>>> longer touting low-fat (I never did!), and people are finding
>>> >>>> themselves much less hungry eating fewer carbs and a bit more
>>> >>>> fat.
>>> >
>>> >>>> Please note that this is not permission to eat fat without
>>> >>>> limit! Mike is absolutely correct--the issue is portion size
>>> >>>> and--in the case
>>> >
>>> >>>> of fat--what have they replaced the fat with?  Generally,
>>> >>>> diabetics
>>>
>>> >>>> are better off eating
>>> >
>>> >>>> regular foods, not those specially made as "diet foods," because
>
>>> >>>> they
>>> >
>>> >>>> are lower in fat but higher in carbs--particularly sugars!
>>> >
>>> >>>> Sandi
>>> >
>>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>> >>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 9:09 AM
>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>>>> The curmudgeon in me says: so what if they're high-fat? There's
>
>>> >>>>> an
>>>
>>> >>>>> awful lot of preachiness and precious little actual long-term
>>> >>>>> evidence in much of the medical orthodoxy these days. What I'd
>>> >>>>> give
>>> >
>>> >>>>> for some refried beans
>>> >>> made
>>> >>>>> with
>>> >>>>> real lard again! Actually, lard is quite healthy, contrary to
>>> >>>>> popular belief.
>>> >
>>> >>>>> The case of eggs should be instructive and cause all of us to
>>> >>>>> say with the
>>> >>>>> bible: prove me now herewith!
>>> >
>>> >>>>> The key is portion control and, yes, exercise.
>>> >
>>> >>>>> But I'll stop there as I do not want to drive those for whom
>>> >>>>> diabetic
>>> >
>>> >>>>> orthodoxy works from this list. After all, you've elected me to
>
>>> >>>>> represent all of you! :-)
>>> >
>>> >>>>> Mike
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> >>>>> On Behalf Of Bridgit Pollpeter
>>> >>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:41 PM
>>> >>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>> >
>>> >>>>> Do you make burritos with refried beans or something different
>>> >>>>> like
>>> >
>>> >>>>> black beans? Refried beans are really high in fat. And when you
>
>>> >>>>> add
>>> >
>>> >>>>> meat back in, you can do lean beef or lean turkey. We usually
>>> >>>>> use ground turkey around here.
>>> >
>>> >>>>> I was lucky and didn't gain much weight during my pregnancy. I
>>> >>>>> only
>>> >
>>> >>>>> gained abut 20 pounds. I continued to exercise during
>>> >>>>> pregnancy, and
>>> >
>>> >>>>> I actually ate probably the healthiest I ever have, grin.
>>> >
>>> >>>>> Bridgit
>>> >
>>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> >>>>> On Behalf Of d m gina
>>> >>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:19 AM
>>> >>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>>>> yes I sure agree with you,
>>> >>>>> We do all of the above, making burritoes as well with malta
>>> >>>>> grain tortilla. This time with no meat, beeing Lent for us. I
>>> >>>>> am trying to
>>> >
>>> >>>>> get used to the lower numbers, where taking it slowly when I am
>
>>> >>>>> the
>>> >
>>> >>>>> only one at the gym who knows what to do with my dog if
>>> >>>>> anything should happen while over there. I sure wouldn't want
>>> >>>>> him to go to the
>>> >
>>> >>>>> pound. I was told to lose the weight slowly this is happening.
>>> >>>>> Glad
>>> >
>>> >>>>> you lost allot of your baby gain. Keep up the swell work.
>>> >
>>> >>>>> Original message:
>>> >>>>>> When I worked as a fitness instructor and ballet dancer, I
>>> >>>>>> told people
>>> >
>>> >>>>>> to not look at losing weight as a diet because this implies a
>>> >>>>>> temporary state of living when food, nutrition and exercise
>>> >>>>>> needs
>>>
>>> >>>>>> to
>>> >
>>> >>>>>> become an entire lifestyle adjustment that is permanent. One,
>>> >>>>>> start
>>> >
>>> >>>>>> eating healthy portions. This is key. Two, eat foods that are
>>> >>>>>> better
>>> >
>>> >>>>>> for you
>>> >>>>>> nutritionally: whole wheat and grains, lean meats, low-fat
>>> >>>>>> dairy,
>>> >>>>> fresh
>>> >>>>>> fruits and veggies, beans like chickpeas and garbanzo and
>>> >>>>>> lima, etc.
>>> >
>>> >>>>>> Three, exercise needs to be a part of daily living. Activity
>>> >>>>>> of any
>>> >>>>> kind
>>> >>>>>> to get the heart rate up and then toning. We act like this is
>>> >>>>>> so difficult, but when you think about it, it's really not. I
>>> >>>>>> do allow
>>> >>>>> for
>>> >>>>>> one day a week when you can eat what ever food you just can't
>>> >>>>>> live
>>> >
>>> >>>>>> without, though still in a moderate portion size. Whether it
>>> >>>>>> be chocolate, buffalo wings, fast-food, cookies, chips-- 
>>> >>>>>> whatever your
>>> >
>>> >>>>>> pleasure is. If needing to lose a large quantity of weight,
>>> >>>>>> you can
>>> >>>>> cut
>>> >>>>>> back on calories, but in order to remain healthy and maintain
>>> >>>>>> weight
>>> >
>>> >>>>>> loss, you can't yo-yo diet or lose weight then go back to old
>>> >>>>>> habits. Adjusting our mindsets to a lifestyle change is more
>>> >>>>>> constructive and productive when trying to lose weight and
>>> >>>>>> just healthy living in general.
>>> >
>>> >>>>>> Having said all that, I'm finding it difficult to exercise
>>> >>>>>> with Baby, smile. I get a lot of physical activity in a day
>>> >>>>>> just from dealing and
>>> >
>>> >>>>>> playing with him, but to actually exercise, boy, it's tough
>>> >>>>>> finding
>>> >
>>> >>>>>> the time especially time when I'm not exhausted, sigh.
>>> >>>>>> Somehow, I've
>>> >
>>> >>>>>> managed to lose almost all the weight in seven months, but I
>>> >>>>>> need
>>>
>>> >>>>>> to
>>> >
>>> >>>>>> work on the toning again. Something tells me this is a
>>> >>>>>> life-long struggle, grin.
>>> >
>>> >>>>>> And of course, we all here have to consider our diabetes. I'm
>>> >>>>>> likely
>>> >
>>> >>>>>> to drop when exercising, so I try to do physical activity
>>> >>>>>> after meals.
>>> >
>>> >>>>>> I test before and after too, but it can be crummy when a low
>>> >>>>>> blood
>>> >
>>> >>>>>> sugar, or high one for that matter, gets in the way of
>>> >>>>>> exercise. Just another level to our daily life, sigh.
>>> >
>>> >>>>>> Bridgit
>>> >
>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> >>>>>> On Behalf Of d m gina
>>> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:46 PM
>>> >>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>>>>> Did she get off of it rite away?
>>> >>>>>> There are so many ways to get weight off, I am doing pretty
>>> >>>>>> well.
>>>
>>> >>>>>> Holding my own. I hope it isn't a long night.
>>> >
>>> >>>>>> Original message:
>>> >>>>>>> Linda had a very similar experience.  This opinion is
>>> >>>>>>> completely
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> uninformed by facts, but I almost think that this class of
>>> >>>>>>> drug is
>>> >
>>> >>>>>>> almost like a chemical lapband in that it causes your stomach
>
>>> >>>>>>> to
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> fill
>>> >
>>> >>>>>>> quickly -- very quickly in some cases.  My sympathies.  We've
>
>>> >>>>>>> had
>>> >
>>> >>>>>>> the
>>> >
>>> >>>>>>> same experience here, and it's not very pleasant.
>>> >
>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>
>>> >>>>>>> On
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:32 PM
>>> >>>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> >>>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>> >
>>> >>>>>>> I started the encrease last night, taking it again this
>>> >>>>>>> evening.
>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Had dinner then gave it all back. I'm not playing this game
>>> >>>>>>> until
>>> >
>>> >>>>>>> the second one decides to settle. Will call over tomorrow. I
>>> >>>>>>> felt
>>> >
>>> >>>>>>> so tired, really drained. I want my happy self back again. I
>>> >>>>>>> also
>>> >
>>> >>>>>>> have burning in the chest. I think this is from acid. Glad
>>> >>>>>>> for those who can take it. I played the game now game is
>>> >>>>>>> over.
>>> >
>>> >>>>>>> --
>>> >>>>>>> --Dar
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>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/bpollpeter
>>> >>> %
>>> >>> 40
>>> >>> hotmail.com
>>> >
>>> >
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>
>>> >>> for
>>> >>> Diabetes-talk:
>>> >
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>>> >> %40
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> >> for
>>> >> Diabetes-talk:
>>> >>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/bpollpeter
>>> >> %
>>> >> 40
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>>> >
>>> >
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>>> >>
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>>> >
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>>> >>
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>>> >
>>> > --
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>>> >  FB: dmgina
>>> > www.twitter.com/dmgina
>>> > every saint has a past
>>> > every sinner has a future
>>> >
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>>> > for
>>> > Diabetes-talk:
>>> >
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/bpollpeter%
>>> > 40
>>> > hotmail.com
>>> >
>>> >
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>>> > for
>>> > Diabetes-talk:
>>> >
>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/sjryan2%40
>>> gma
>>> il.com
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> %40
>>> hotmail.com
>>>
>>>
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>>>
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/diabetes-talk_nfbnet.org/jdashiel%40sh
> ellworld.net
>>>
>>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -----
>> jude <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
>> Microsoft, windows is accessible. why do blind people need screen
> readers?
>>
>>
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>>
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> il.com
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> hotmail.com
>
>
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> 