[Diabetes-talk] Sugar drinks
d m gina
dmgina at samobile.net
Wed Mar 27 03:20:54 UTC 2013
Thank you Mike,
I wanted to share on behalf of aspertain where I felt I would be jumped
on, so stayed very quiet.
You know though,
We are diabetic, then it says cancer.
One just can't win can they?
I just enjoy each day as I am blessed with.
Original message:
> I beg to differ. Check out
> http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/aspartame.asp
> Unless you have phenolketonuria, you don't have to worry.
> Mike
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Denise Robinson
> Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 3:33 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Sugar drinks
> Artificial sweetners turn to formaldehyde in the body when processed. The
> by products in them also make you crave them. They can actually contribute
> to weight gain. Tons of research on it but you will have to do digging on it
> as the diet companies do not want you to know this....
> Denise M Robinson
> Sent from my iPad
> On Mar 26, 2013, at 2:09 AM, Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>> You mention not drinking sugar drinks, and this makes me think of
>> something. Is this really a problem for diabetics? Of course this is
>> rhetorical, but what's the problem with diet drinks? Maybe it's because
>> I've been diabetic since the age of four, but I always opt for diet
>> drinks or water. I know so many diabetics who don't do this, and I guess
>> I don't understand why it's such a big deal. I always assumed it was a
>> given a diabetic would avoid the sugary drinks but guess not... And
>> it's kind of like alcohol, it's empty calories, and I'd rather spend
>> calories on actual food than a drink, grin.
>> Bridgit
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Sandi Ryan
>> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 10:00 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>> Last year my husband and I drove to convention. We brought along a big
>> cooler full of eggs, some bacon, salad veggies, little pouches of
>> chicken,
>> ham, etc., and we brought along our Keurig single-cup coffeemaker and a
>> tiny
>> electric frying pan. We replenished food as needed at local grocery
>> stores
>> and ate breakfast and lunch in our room. At dinner we went out to a
>> local
>> restaurant and enjoyed reasonable food.
>> If you didn't drive, you could probably ship the cooler, pan, and any
>> canned
>> goods ahead, then buy food when you get there. The fridge is an even
>> better
>> idea.
>> If you want to eat breakfast and lunch out and not have the hassle of
>> making
>> your own food, you can usually get eggs or cereal or an English muffin,
>> etc.
>> from room service or the restaurant, though hotel food is horribly
>> expensive. And there's usually a good place to get a salad for lunch,
>> or a
>> grilled chicken or burger sandwich. I always figure the trick for me is
>> not
>> to just go all out, have dessert with every meal, eat huge portions, and
>> come home with high blood sugar and a tighter waistband. Eat what you
>> like,
>> but stay aware of portions. In my opinion, skipping French fries and
>> sugary
>> drinks goes a long way in that direction!
>> Sandi
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>> It can get pricey if you eat out all the time. We usually pack food,
>>> and the last time we went, we had food shipped ahead of us. We brought
>>> things like granola bars, pretzels, water, juice, bread and lunchmeat
>>> and cheese. Also check into local eateries to find out prices. Some
>>> people treat it like a vaca and eat out for every meal, while others
>>> prefer to save on the expense of food. It's all what you prefer. Most
>>> rooms do have a mini fridge, and most places will provide one if you
>>> request it. Since I have insulin, I typically get one since it needs
>>> to be kept in the fridge. This means I can keep food in it as well,
>>> smile.
>>> Bridgit
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:35 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>> Food food food,
>>> Asking a question on behalf of food.
>>> What do all of you do when you are on convention.
>>> I know what Mike does for one of the evenings, watches what he does
>>> threw out the day then off he goes for the lovely stake and potatoes.
>>> Do you go find a place for the wonderful egg, or bowl of serial for
>>> breakfast? Do you buy the gronala bar bringing it with you? How much
>>> cheese sticks do you bring with you? To make sure you have enough
>>> until you get to the destenation? Is there a corner cafe you can go to
>>> that won't take all you brought just to have a meal?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Original message:
>>>> Before this gets too crazy and sounding like we're a bunch of
>>>> "granola
>>>> bars", permit me to point out that before insecticides, one had to
>>>> cut
>>>> open and examine *every* apple to avoid worms, you could get
>>>> Trichanosis from pork and the reason you boiled hell out of green
>>>> beans -- and still do -- is to avoid botulism. And I can still
>>>> remember when iodized salt was considered a miracle. And as late as
>>>> the 1920's, one of the means of spreading tuberculosis was via
>>>> "natural" -- that is, non-Pasteurized -- milk right out of a healthy
>>>> cow.
>>>> And dare I remind us all that bacteria make our "human" insulin for
>>>> us?
>>>> Mike
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Bridgit Pollpeter
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:35 PM
>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>> Oh, I know. When you really take time to investigate this stuff, it's
>>>> quite appalling. Like anything, you can't get to caught up in any
>>>> craze, but what is allowed to be placed in food including in America,
>>>> it makes you never want to eat anything processed with additives and
>>>> synthetic crap.
>>>> And our food handling practices aren't as sophisticated as many would
>>>> like to think. Only a handful of states have any guidelines or laws
>>>> regulating food transportation and distribution. It's not a Federal
>>>> mandate like we think. Food being transported to markets and
>>>> restaurants usually has no one checking at weigh stations or other
>>>> places. If a state chooses to practice this, it does, but very few
>>>> do.
>>>> Bridgit
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:01 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>> During my education, I was taught that the United States has the
>>>> safest,
>>>> best food supply in the world. But that was a lie, too! The things
>>>> in most processed foods (and I'm not talking about additives, but
>>>> things we consider
>>>> food!) are just scary!
>>>> Sandi
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 6:49 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>> I agree with the trans fats and fructose. It's interesting as to why
>>>>> trans fats were added into foods, and it's something that shouldn't
>>>>> have ever happened.
>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:26 PM
>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>> Uh, I was agreeing with you, sir! I don't believe saturated fat is
>>>>> the problem in our food at all! At least unless you eat it in
>>>>> really
>>>>> large amounts--but that's true of almost any component. I'd rather
>>>>> eat the real food, not the food manufacturers have screwed around
>>>>> with! A book I'm currently reading is convincing me that the
>>>>> problem
>>>>> with increased diabetes, obesity, heart disease, cancer, and living
>>>>> on earth is fructose. I
>>>> know
>>>>> that since I've pretty much given up sugar, I'm a lot happier and
>>>>> healthier, and I have not given up fat, except trans fats, which
>>>>> should never have been in our food!
>>>>> Sandi
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 1:08 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>> Sandi:
>>>>>> I can show you (or anyone else) a study done by meta-analysis
>>>>>> withover
>>>>>> 300,000 subjects that could find *no* -- yes, no -- link between
>>>>>> saturated fat and heart disease. Fat was just an easy target with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> consequences you cite below.
>>>>>> Nutrition is far more complex than even most nutritionists would
>>>>>> like
>>>>>> to admit. (grin)
>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Sandi Ryan
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 10:00 AM
>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>> The curmudgeon in this Registered Dietitian says the same thing!
>>>>>> In
>>>>>> looking
>>>>>> at refried beans several years ago, I discovered that, while the
>>>>>> fat
>>>>>> in refried beans is saturated (lard, duh!), there just isn't enough
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> worry about, unless you're eating cans of the beans a day! We're
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> longer touting low-fat (I never did!), and people are finding
>>>>>> themselves much less hungry eating fewer carbs and a bit more fat.
>>>>>> Please note that this is not permission to eat fat without limit!
>>>>>> Mike is absolutely correct--the issue is portion size and--in the
>>>>>> case
>>>>>> of fat--what have they replaced the fat with? Generally, diabetics
>>>>>> are better off eating
>>>>>> regular foods, not those specially made as "diet foods," because
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> are lower in fat but higher in carbs--particularly sugars!
>>>>>> Sandi
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2013 9:09 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>>> The curmudgeon in me says: so what if they're high-fat? There's an
>>>>>>> awful lot of preachiness and precious little actual long-term
>>>>>>> evidence in much of the medical orthodoxy these days. What I'd
>>>>>>> give
>>>>>>> for some refried beans
>>>>> made
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> real lard again! Actually, lard is quite healthy, contrary to
>>>>>>> popular belief.
>>>>>>> The case of eggs should be instructive and cause all of us to say
>>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>> bible: prove me now herewith!
>>>>>>> The key is portion control and, yes, exercise.
>>>>>>> But I'll stop there as I do not want to drive those for whom
>>>>>>> diabetic
>>>>>>> orthodoxy works from this list. After all, you've elected me to
>>>>>>> represent all of you! :-)
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bridgit Pollpeter
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:41 PM
>>>>>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>>> Do you make burritos with refried beans or something different
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>> black beans? Refried beans are really high in fat. And when you
>>>>>>> add
>>>>>>> meat back in, you can do lean beef or lean turkey. We usually use
>>>>>>> ground turkey around here.
>>>>>>> I was lucky and didn't gain much weight during my pregnancy. I
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> gained abut 20 pounds. I continued to exercise during pregnancy,
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> I actually ate probably the healthiest I ever have, grin.
>>>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:19 AM
>>>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>>> yes I sure agree with you,
>>>>>>> We do all of the above, making burritoes as well with malta grain
>>>>>>> tortilla. This time with no meat, beeing Lent for us. I am trying
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> get used to the lower numbers, where taking it slowly when I am
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> only one at the gym who knows what to do with my dog if anything
>>>>>>> should happen while over there. I sure wouldn't want him to go to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> pound. I was told to lose the weight slowly this is happening.
>>>>>>> Glad
>>>>>>> you lost allot of your baby gain. Keep up the swell work.
>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>> When I worked as a fitness instructor and ballet dancer, I told
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> to not look at losing weight as a diet because this implies a
>>>>>>>> temporary state of living when food, nutrition and exercise needs
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> become an entire lifestyle adjustment that is permanent. One,
>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>> eating healthy portions. This is key. Two, eat foods that are
>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>> for you
>>>>>>>> nutritionally: whole wheat and grains, lean meats, low-fat dairy,
>>>>>>> fresh
>>>>>>>> fruits and veggies, beans like chickpeas and garbanzo and lima,
>>>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>>> Three, exercise needs to be a part of daily living. Activity of
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> kind
>>>>>>>> to get the heart rate up and then toning. We act like this is so
>>>>>>>> difficult, but when you think about it, it's really not. I do
>>>>>>>> allow
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> one day a week when you can eat what ever food you just can't
>>>>>>>> live
>>>>>>>> without, though still in a moderate portion size. Whether it be
>>>>>>>> chocolate, buffalo wings, fast-food, cookies, chips-- whatever
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> pleasure is. If needing to lose a large quantity of weight, you
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> cut
>>>>>>>> back on calories, but in order to remain healthy and maintain
>>>>>>>> weight
>>>>>>>> loss, you can't yo-yo diet or lose weight then go back to old
>>>>>>>> habits. Adjusting our mindsets to a lifestyle change is more
>>>>>>>> constructive and productive when trying to lose weight and just
>>>>>>>> healthy living in general.
>>>>>>>> Having said all that, I'm finding it difficult to exercise with
>>>>>>>> Baby, smile. I get a lot of physical activity in a day just from
>>>>>>>> dealing and
>>>>>>>> playing with him, but to actually exercise, boy, it's tough
>>>>>>>> finding
>>>>>>>> the time especially time when I'm not exhausted, sigh. Somehow,
>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>> managed to lose almost all the weight in seven months, but I need
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> work on the toning again. Something tells me this is a life-long
>>>>>>>> struggle, grin.
>>>>>>>> And of course, we all here have to consider our diabetes. I'm
>>>>>>>> likely
>>>>>>>> to drop when exercising, so I try to do physical activity after
>>>>>>>> meals.
>>>>>>>> I test before and after too, but it can be crummy when a low
>>>>>>>> blood
>>>>>>>> sugar, or high one for that matter, gets in the way of exercise.
>>>>>>>> Just another level to our daily life, sigh.
>>>>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:46 PM
>>>>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>>>> Did she get off of it rite away?
>>>>>>>> There are so many ways to get weight off, I am doing pretty well.
>>>>>>>> Holding my own. I hope it isn't a long night.
>>>>>>>> Original message:
>>>>>>>>> Linda had a very similar experience. This opinion is completely
>>>>>>>>> uninformed by facts, but I almost think that this class of drug
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> almost like a chemical lapband in that it causes your stomach to
>>>>>>>>> fill
>>>>>>>>> quickly -- very quickly in some cases. My sympathies. We've
>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> same experience here, and it's not very pleasant.
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of d m gina
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:32 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] victoza
>>>>>>>>> I started the encrease last night, taking it again this evening.
>>>>>>>>> Had dinner then gave it all back. I'm not playing this game
>>>>>>>>> until
>>>>>>>>> the second one decides to settle. Will call over tomorrow. I
>>>>>>>>> felt
>>>>>>>>> so tired, really drained. I want my happy self back again. I
>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>> have burning in the chest. I think this is from acid. Glad for
>>>>>>>>> those who can take it. I played the game now game is over.
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