[Diabetes-talk] Diabetes resolution

Wed Nov 20 22:35:31 UTC 2013

Thanks for the good spirited responses to my question. Mike, you stold my
thunder in your references to Apple. We do have to find that place where we
hit a nerve that makes someone jump. With Apple it was the schools. I do
believe that it's certainly possible in our efforts to encounter that right
person who can make things happen. Kind of like that one musician or athlete
that gets the lucky break that millions of talented people don't ever find.
But we do need the ability to put ourselves in the shoes of those who don't
see the reason to make things accessible for us. If we can trick them into
thinking it was their idea, we're home free. So trust me, I'll bust my butt
behind the sceens to do what I can. I just don't want people to be
disappointed because they think resolutions get passed and then the
leadership just speaks and things happen. Many of you know just how hard Ed
Bryant and company fought over the labeling of insulin vials. If I do have a
Polly Anna moment now and then, it usually revolves around a fantasy of
running into some big chese on an airline flight or something, discussion
ensues and bingo! Anybody notice that that hasn't happened yet? <laughing!> 
Anyway, thanks again.
Veronica

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-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Mike Freeman
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 1:30 PM
To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes resolution

Sandi:

Please reread my post. I cited Apple because I was trying to illustrate a
problem we'll have with FDA approving access technology. Please put your
antennae down a bit looking for bogey-men that aren't there.

I used the iPhone as an example because the FDA actually had outlined what
its policy would be re iPhone diabetes applications, not because I presumed
technology would be restricted to i-devices.

Voice technology isn't always quite as simple as even much of our leadership
would like to make it, i.e., there's more to it than most people (including
many of our leaders) presume.

But this is really not the proper venue, I believe, to discuss the
technicalities or engineering of a particular solution. All I'm saying is
don't be surprised if things end up more complex than you might imagine.

Again, this is no reason not to consider certain solutions.

Put another way: don't shoot the messenger.He is not trying to impede our
progress.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Sandi Ryan
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:38 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes resolution

Who said anything about forcing people to work with iPhone technology?  What

I said was, Apple created a model for selling the technology that better 
spread the cost of accessibility across the whole population, rather than 
limiting it to a small, special population.  Perhaps we can help others make

that model work, too.  I, for one, have not minded going to the store, 
buying the same thing everyone else buys, and having it automatically work 
for me, without having to spend an arm and a leg on speech for it, etc.

I am not promoting Apple's technology in any way!  Please read what's said 
very carefully.

Sandi

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bernadette Jacobs" <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Diabetes resolution

> Hey Gang:
>
> Bern here.  I have to say, I'm with Veronica and mike on this one. 
> Furthermore, if I were to have a pump, and my next talking meter, got 
> forbid that I should have to buy an Iphone too just so I can not only work

> the technology, but survive too???  So, how stupid is that???
>
> Bern
> On 11/19/2013 8:30 PM, Sandi Ryan wrote:
>>
>> And I don't think Apple created Voiceover and made their products 
>> accessible just because they're good that way.  I think that the small 
>> population of blind people, working together and with partners, created 
>> an atmosphere that demanded what we needed, and even this giant 
>> corporation saw the light.  And they created a model for
>
>
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