[Diabetes-talk] Very Off Topic

Wed Sep 4 17:44:22 UTC 2013

It will be difficult to teach someone the computer when not using the
exact same medium. Since your husband still uses sight, though
magnified, it will be slightly different when it comes to how to
manipulate commands and the lay-out. Some terms are a little different
too like screenreader users typically say combo box while sighted users
say drop-down menu. While you are audibly seeking a button or link, a
sighted person visually finds it at the top right or middle left. Screen
readers will access functions with various key strokes while most
sighted people are still slaves to the MOUSE. Etc.

Sighted people who have worked with screenreaders, or who have the
patience, will do much better at teaching the computer. This has been my
experience. Likewise, when I try to work with a sighted person on using
the computer, say my mom, we often encounter road blocks because of the
same reasons. I'm describing functions by providing names and not
necessarily specific locations or visual descriptions. Meanwhile, my mom
is only looking for things visually. So when online, she's looking for
the web address dialogue box, and I'm actually explaining how to access
it. Some people bridge this divide easily and others not so much, and it
has little to do with knowledge and intellect; it's just one of those
things, grin.

Bridgit

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of COLLEEN ROTH
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 7:46 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Very Off Topic

Hello Bridget,
My husband does well teaching others, just not me.
He doesn't use Jaws or Window-eyes very much. He does use Magic and when
he worked he used Zoomtext. He did help a Sister of Notre Dame who was
totally blind and he loved helping her. I have Window-eyes and I have
read the Manual. To be honest, I really need to find a keyboard which
allows me to have a higher part in the front. I can rest part of my palm
on a Braille Notetaker. I have some problems with the regular keyboard
on a Pc. If that isn't possible I guess I need to be content with using
my Braille Sense as a Terminal for Screen Reader. I have tried this and
am willing to learn the Commands. I just cannot type on a PC Keyboard
for more than 5 minutes without severe cramping in my hands. I can use a
Braille Notetaker for much longer because I do not have to hold my hands
in the same way. This has been a problem for me for years. I now have
severe arthritis in some of my fingers too.

Thanks for the offer.
Colleen Roth

----- Original Message -----
From: Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Bl'" diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Date: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 7:35 pm
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Very Off Topic

>
>
> My husband is the best teacher especially when it comes to computers. 
> And though I'm biased, many others have said this, smile. So I'm lucky

> there. If you want, I can send you a document with key strokes helpful

> when using JAWS on the computer. Is there anything in particular you 
> do often or wish too? I can give you helpful key strokes and 
> suggestions for these functions.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of COLLEEN ROTH
> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 6:24 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Very Off Topic
> 
> 
> Hello Everyone,
> I would like to know if anyone knows of a keyboard which is not flat 
> in the front. I have problems with my hands and do better when I can 
> have my hands curled around something like a Notetaker. I also have 
> trouble when the keys are so close and the board is slanted toward the

> bottom. That is my first hurdle with a PC. My second one is that the 
> class I took was an interesting experience. My teacher did not know 
> how to turn the volume up on my PC. The book I had was text-to-speech 
> with no descrimtion of any figures. I had never experienced that 
> before. Also my husband says I am too stupid to learn the computer. He

> does much better teaching other people. The PC was upstairs which was 
> a problem when my girls were alive. I can't go upstairs any more so 
> would have to have a PC down here. If Eric Duffy were in Toledo I 
> would have been Computer literate by now. I did get about 12 hours 
> from BSVI which wasn't helpful because my trainer didn't know basic 
> commands. If I could find a keyboard which was not flat in the front 
> with keys spaced further apart I might try it. I still would need 
> someone to help when I got stuck. I can handle lots of things but I 
> guess I just need a very patient teacher. Colleen Roth
> 
> 
> 
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