[Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic

Mike Freeman k7uij at panix.com
Fri Sep 13 02:45:31 UTC 2013 

Isn't all exercise? (grin) 

On Sep 12, 2013, at 19:03, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:

> Five miles a day is sort of unrealistic with people's busy lives.
> 
> CL
> 
> On Sep 12, 2013, at 7:40 PM, "Sandi Ryan" <sjryan2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> It's been a while since I actually read the new book.  There was still a chapter on exercise, but I don't remember a five-mile walk.  That's still a fine exercise--but pretty long!
>> 
>> Sandi
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Lewis" <wlewis19 at cox.net>
>> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 6:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> Does the Atkins Plan still require a five miles a day walk?  Bill Lewis
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Sandi Ryan
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 5:33 PM
>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>>> 
>>> The Atkins plan has changed some, and never was what it was purported to be.
>>> It was never a "no-carb" diet, and it was never true that you could eat
>>> great quantities of meat as long as you ate nothing else.  Now they have
>>> moderated quite a bit--they still recommend two weeks of meat and vegetables
>>> and not a lot else, but they start after that two weeks to add berries,
>>> nuts, etc.
>>> 
>>> I agree Atkins is a little uptight about bread and pasta and such--a little
>>> just isn't a bad thing--but in my opinion, they are on the right track.
>>> 
>>> Having said that, I don't like Atkins because of their emphasis on the bars,
>>> shakes, and meals they market.  I don't like their using sugar-alcohols and
>>> claiming those are better for you.  We don't have evidence of that, and they
>>> give some people really nasty diarrhea!  And I believe that whatever eating
>>> plan you follow, you should eat whole foods, not depend on processed, loaded
>>> foods.
>>> 
>>> I agree with you about why the portion size models came about, but I believe
>>> that if you really limit processed trash, you can have larger portions, feel
>>> totally satisfied, and neither gain weight nor raise your blood sugar! What
>>> we need to get past (and probably never will) is dietitians thinking people
>>> need to eat a big variety of all foods, including chips, crackers, pretzels,
>>> etc.  I used to be that kind of dietitian.  Now I think we need to eat real
>>> foods, prepared the way we like them, in satisfying amounts, and ignore
>>> those food-like substances created for us by food manufacturers whose main
>>> intention is making money.  Bread is a fine food, by the way, especially
>>> whole-grain bread, in moderation.  Likewise pasta.
>>> 
>>> And as an adult, you choose what you eat, so you can also have chips and
>>> crackers and such.  But you have to pay a lot more attention to how you eat
>>> if you include those things.  And they are not in any way required for you
>>> to live!
>>> 
>>> One huge advantage to a low-carb diet is that it does wonders reducing
>>> cravings!  That's why I follow it.  I'm never hungry, and I do eat the
>>> occasional piece of pie or candy bar, but I don't even want one of those
>>> things most days.
>>> 
>>> If you find yourself wanting something treatish, my husband's and my newest
>>> thing is chocolate-peanut butter bark.  We melt 4.4 ounces of 70% dark
>>> chocolate with 2 oz. homemade peanut butter (or natural is fine) until it's
>>> smooth.  Then we drop it into twelve rounds on waxed paper on a tray.  You
>>> can either freeze or chill it till it's set, and we each eat three rounds in
>>> a day--so for the two of us, this recipe lasts two days.  It's not high in
>>> sugar, contains protein, and is very satisfying!  The peanut butter we make
>>> is super-crunchy--we grind half the peanuts and just break up the other
>>> half.  Yum!
>>> 
>>> Sandi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bridgit Pollpeter" <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 3:51 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Not that low-carb is out, or it doesn't have its merits. I'm referring
>>>> more to the Atkins subscribers. We also have to keep in mind that
>>>> individual bodies will react and respond to food and exercise
>>>> differently. I've never had huge problems controlling glucose levels or
>>>> maintaining weight regardless of what type of bread I eat. For many
>>>> though, bread is a huge problem. Pasta, which I'm actually not a big fan
>>>> of, is what is a kicker for me.
>>>> 
>>>> One problem with no-carb diets is that while you will experience rapid
>>>> weight loss, what can happen eventually is that you're not so much
>>>> losing fat as you're beginning to atrophied, which isn't healthy. But
>>>> millions of people do this, not fully understanding the science, and
>>>> they are probably just as, if not more, unhealthy as someone eating
>>>> carbs.
>>>> 
>>>> Bridgit
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>>> Of Mike Freeman
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 1:26 PM
>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I disagree that low carb is out. In fact, mainstream endocrinologists
>>>> are beginning to think twice before jumping on the ADA complex carb
>>>> bandwagon. Read the book Fat Chance. It's on BARD.
>>>> Mike freeman
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 12, 2013, at 8:59, Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Well, the medical community and FDA are always changing their minds
>>>>> about what is good and what isn't. For years we were told to limit
>>>>> caffeine consumption, but recently, I hear everywhere that massive
>>>>> amounts of caffeine are good for you. Okay, perhaps massive is an
>>>>> exaggeration, grin, but seriously, I saw one interview where multiple
>>>>> cups of coffee were being recommended. Just a couple of years ago the
>>>>> medical community would have admonished you for this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So I agree with have to proceed withcaution when it comes to these
>>>>> reports and not jump on bandwagons. I recall a decade ago when
>>>>> low-carb diets were all the rage, and everyone was sure this was the
>>>>> way to lose weight and eat in general. Now we know that a balance diet
>>>> 
>>>>> including complex carbs is much better than low-carb or no-carb.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think balance is key, and watching consumption amounts and what we
>>>>> eat does more than following current trends.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:04 PM
>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't know. Frankly, I don't buy any of it. There are too many
>>>>> variables to draw such conclusions IMHO. Remember also that more fiber
>>>> 
>>>>> was supposed to lessen the risk of colon cancer but that also has been
>>>> 
>>>>> called into question. Mike
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 17:50, Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> In meat? Okay, what about so-called organic meat? Like the stuff void
>>>>>> of man-made preservatives and additives and all that junk? Guess I
>>>>>> haven't heard this one.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 3:48 PM
>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> He is probably worried about supposed colon cancer risk. Mike
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:59, Bridgit Pollpeter <bpollpeter at hotmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why avoid meat? I know too much protein can actually affect glucose
>>>>>>> levels, but usually protein is recommended because protein is what
>>>>>>> stabilizes blood sugars. I know protein can be found in food other
>>>>>>> than meat, but I've never heard you should avoid meat.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Bridgit
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Bill Lewis
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:36 AM
>>>>>>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Recently DXED Pre-Diabetic
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Vicky, my name is Bill Lewis, and I want to share with you the
>>>>>>> importance of our following the basics of glucose control.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There is an old and famous saying that "He who does not understand
>>>>>>> his
>>>>> 
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