[Diabetes-talk] A Stripless Talking Meter ...

Sun Apr 20 14:18:19 UTC 2014

I rather doubt it. It might be time to spend a couple of intensive hours
with a CDE to see if a change in fingersticking technique might not help.
Have you talked with Ann Williams? I bet she could help and she's in Ohio.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
Colleen Roth
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 4:24 AM
To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A Stripless Talking Meter ...

Hi Mike,
I didn't know how the strips worked which you explained on one of your
posts.
I wrote my email before that. I was going through emails yesterday going
back to Thursday.
My thinking is that maybe it would be easier to get blood using an Alternate
Site.
Colleen Roth

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Bl'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Date: Saturday, Apr 19, 2014 04:54:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A Stripless Talking Meter ...

>
>
> With respect, I think we're forgetting about a simple maxim:
> 
> IF IT SEEMS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, IT PROBABLY IS.
> 
> I believe the Ariva meter uses alternate-site testing and although I've
> spoken with one COULDE who maintains that blind persons can easily learn
to do
> alternate-site testing, I have ininnever* encountered an actual blind
person
> who had much success with it. The very reason alternate-site testing
appeals
> to some is its greatest drawback for the blind: you can't easily feel
where
> you lanced yourself.
> 
> Moreover, as Dotty has said, what we may be encountering here is the type
of
> meter with strips in a cartridge. While these might be advantageous for
> some, I know of ininno* fully-accessible meter that uses them and I also
have
> the sneaking suspicion that such strips cost more than the run-of-the-mill
> variety.
> 
> Also, as I said the other day, there are sound chemical reasons why a
truly
> stripless meter that samples blood would be hard to make. And although
there
> has been plenty of hype about using systems that do not sample blood, I
> still haven't seen one that worked well enough to come to market.
> 
> Finally, if such a system truly existed and wasn't just ad hype, don't you
> suppose that either we or ACBDA or the American Foundation for the Blind
or
> David Mendosa or Diabetes forecast or Diabetes Self-management Quarterly
or
> Health Central would have trumpeted such a system to the skies?
> 
> I don't fault those who hope; I worry about those who suspend the faculty
of
> critical thinking.
> 
> Mike Freeman
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> COLLEEN ROTH
> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 1:29 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A Stripless Talking Meter ...
> 
>  Hello Eileen,
> I think that the ad says that Ariva serves people with Medicare.
> I didn't quite get the part about sticking your fingers. I thought maybe
you
> stuck another part of your body.
> It does say the meter talks.
> Since I currently get very little blood, if any at all, I am not able to
> test.
> If Ariva does indeed work without blood or with just enough blood that you
> do not have to use a strip this might be heaven-sent for me.
> I have a friend who is a nurse who also has trouble getting enough blood
for
> a reading from me.
> Colleen Roth
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: eileen scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:04 pm
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A Stripless Talking Meter ...
> 
> >
> >
> > All I know is what I heard on the commercial.  I suspect it does not 
> > use blood either, but am not certain.  I'm tempted to make a switch, 
> > but don't want to go from one inaccurate meter to another that could 
> > possibly be even worse.  And then too don't want to be stuck in a 
> > situation where I have to use my supplies before I'd be able to go 
> > back if it turned out it wasn't the meter for me.
> > 
> > Again, it is Ariva that has had the ads which I've heard a few times.
> > 
> > Eileen
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mike Freeman
> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:12 PM
> > To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Bl'
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A Stripless Talking Meter ...
> > 
> > I would be interested to learn of such a device but don't quite see 
> > how it would work  at least if it uses blood samples. Current 
> > technology uses chemical reactions to produce an electrical voltage 
> > which is measured and, I presume, its wave-form analyzed. This would 
> > mean that the sampling device would have to be cleaned between each 
> > use, assuming it could be used multiple times which I can't imagine 
> > since one can't reverse the chemical reaction which leads to the
voltage.
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> > Behalf Of eileen scrivani
> > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 4:50 PM
> > To: NFB Diabetes Talk
> > Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A Stripless Talking Meter ...
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Does anyone on this list know anything about a talking strippless 
> > meter for testing BG's?  I have recently heard advertizements on TV 
> > from Ariva Medical promoting a "talking" meter that does not use 
> > strips.  I know these types of things have in the past not been 
> > accurate, but it is tempting and I'm sick of the two meters out there 
> > that claim "accessibility."  So, even if the stripless meter wasn't 
> > fully accessible, at this point I'm used to that anyway.
> > 
> > Thanks for any input from those who know for a fact and have used the
> meter.
> > 
> > Eileen
> > 
> > 
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