[Diabetes-talk] A Stripless Talking Meter ...

Sun Apr 20 20:10:59 UTC 2014

Hi Mike,
I have talked with Ann Williams. I have a Blood Disorder which makes my blood almost as thick as Molasses.
I have to have it checked over couple of months to see if a pint has to be drawn off to prevent clotting.
I have also had a friend who is a nurse draw blood for my Blood Glucose.
She usually has to poke me about four times even after using the common methods.
Sometimes we do not get enough for a reading.
Colleen Roth

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Bl'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Date: Sunday, Apr 20, 2014 11:43:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A Stripless Talking Meter ...

>
>
> I rather doubt it. It might be time to spend a couple of intensive hours
> with a COULDE to see if a change in fingersticking technique might not help.
> Have you talked with Ann Williams? I bet she could help and she's in Ohio.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Colleen Roth
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2014 4:24 AM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A Stripless Talking Meter ...
> 
> Hi Mike,
> I didn't know how the strips worked which you explained on one of your
> posts.
> I wrote my email before that. I was going through emails yesterday going
> back to Thursday.
> My thinking is that maybe it would be easier to get blood using an Alternate
> Site.
> Colleen Roth
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Freeman <k7uij at panix.com>
> To: "'Diabetes Talk for the Bl'" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Saturday, Apr 19, 2014 04:54:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A Stripless Talking Meter ...
> 
> >
> >
> > With respect, I think we're forgetting about a simple maxim:
> > 
> > IF IT SEEMS TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, IT PROBABLY IS.
> > 
> > I believe the Ariva meter uses alternate-site testing and although I've
> > spoken with one COULDE who maintains that blind persons can easily learn
> to do
> > alternate-site testing, I have ininnever* encountered an actual blind
> person
> > who had much success with it. The very reason alternate-site testing
> appeals
> > to some is its greatest drawback for the blind: you can't easily feel
> where
> > you lanced yourself.
> > 
> > Moreover, as Dotty has said, what we may be encountering here is the type
> of
> > meter with strips in a cartridge. While these might be advantageous for
> > some, I know of ininno* fully-accessible meter that uses them and I also
> have
> > the sneaking suspicion that such strips cost more than the run-of-the-mill
> > variety.
> > 
> > Also, as I said the other day, there are sound chemical reasons why a
> truly
> > stripless meter that samples blood would be hard to make. And although
> there
> > has been plenty of hype about using systems that do not sample blood, I
> > still haven't seen one that worked well enough to come to market.
> > 
> > Finally, if such a system truly existed and wasn't just ad hype, don't you
> > suppose that either we or ACBDA or the American Foundation for the Blind
> or
> > David Mendosa or Diabetes forecast or Diabetes Self-management Quarterly
> or
> > Health Central would have trumpeted such a system to the skies?
> > 
> > I don't fault those who hope; I worry about those who suspend the faculty
> of
> > critical thinking.
> > 
> > Mike Freeman
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> > COLLEEN ROTH
> > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 1:29 PM
> > To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A Stripless Talking Meter ...
> > 
> >  Hello Eileen,
> > I think that the ad says that Ariva serves people with Medicare.
> > I didn't quite get the part about sticking your fingers. I thought maybe
> you
> > stuck another part of your body.
> > It does say the meter talks.
> > Since I currently get very little blood, if any at all, I am not able to
> > test.
> > If Ariva does indeed work without blood or with just enough blood that you
> > do not have to use a strip this might be heaven-sent for me.
> > I have a friend who is a nurse who also has trouble getting enough blood
> for
> > a reading from me.
> > Colleen Roth
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: eileen scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> > To: "Diabetes Talk for the Blind" <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Date: Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:04 pm
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A Stripless Talking Meter ...
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > > All I know is what I heard on the commercial.  I suspect it does not 
> > > use blood either, but am not certain.  I'm tempted to make a switch, 
> > > but don't want to go from one inaccurate meter to another that could 
> > > possibly be even worse.  And then too don't want to be stuck in a 
> > > situation where I have to use my supplies before I'd be able to go 
> > > back if it turned out it wasn't the meter for me.
> > > 
> > > Again, it is Ariva that has had the ads which I've heard a few times.
> > > 
> > > Eileen
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mike Freeman
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:12 PM
> > > To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Bl'
> > > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] A Stripless Talking Meter ...
> > > 
> > > I would be interested to learn of such a device but don't quite see 
> > > how it would work  at least if it uses blood samples. Current 
> > > technology uses chemical reactions to produce an electrical voltage 
> > > which is measured and, I presume, its wave-form analyzed. This would 
> > > mean that the sampling device would have to be cleaned between each 
> > > use, assuming it could be used multiple times which I can't imagine 
> > > since one can't reverse the chemical reaction which leads to the
> voltage.
> > > 
> > > Mike
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> > > Behalf Of eileen scrivani
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2014 4:50 PM
> > > To: NFB Diabetes Talk
> > > Subject: [Diabetes-talk] A Stripless Talking Meter ...
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > Does anyone on this list know anything about a talking strippless 
> > > meter for testing BG's?  I have recently heard advertizements on TV 
> > > from Ariva Medical promoting a "talking" meter that does not use 
> > > strips.  I know these types of things have in the past not been 
> > > accurate, but it is tempting and I'm sick of the two meters out there 
> > > that claim "accessibility."  So, even if the stripless meter wasn't 
> > > fully accessible, at this point I'm used to that anyway.
> > > 
> > > Thanks for any input from those who know for a fact and have used the
> > meter.
> > > 
> > > Eileen
> > > 
> > > 
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