[Diabetes-talk] New Member To The List, and alternate site testing

Fri Feb 26 01:52:46 UTC 2016

Thanks so much,
We got one hundred strip for $12 for the prodigy, don't know if that is 
the same set or not.
If we find out they are not, I am wondering if they would exchange them.
We also got another meter, because I feel my oldest meter is giving out on me.

Original message:
> I've forgotten the exact cost but it's around eight dollars a box. I 
> buy autocode strips which work in the Voice. It mey even be a bit less 
> than eight bucks.

> Mike

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> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf 
> Of d m gina via Diabetes-talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:42 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member To The List, and alternate site testing

> Would you share how many strips you can get and the price?
> Thanks, I still use the prodigy.
> We have encreased insulin.
> I am exercising on the treadmil for an hour and walking a mile with my 
> dog when there is no snow and ice.
> Thanks,

> Original message:
>> If I were denied strips, I'd tell whomever denied me to go to hell! In
>> fact, I've found the best deal for Prodigy Autocode strips (work on
>> the Prodigy Voice also) on Amazon. So although my insurance covers
>> strips and has never asked me for a log, I've started buying them 
>> direct from Amazon.

>> Mike

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 4:13 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Cc: Eileen Scrivani
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member To The List, and alternate
>> site testing

>> Mike,

>> I would not like to see erroneous readings deleted out of meter
>> memory, since even those mistaken readings add into the total number
>> of times per day I’ve tested.  If I have to use extra strips to get a
>> reading which I believe, then I want to show that I have truthfully
>> tested that number of times in a day.

>> Every time I call for a re-order of supplies, I am asked how many
>> tests per day I do and the number of strips I have left in my on-hand supply.
>> The way the system currently works, I would not be surprised should
>> the time come when doctors need to be able to read the memory for the
>> purpose of determining the strip counts.  Perhaps a better way than
>> deleting would be a marker to indicate there was a miss-read, that way
>> the reading would not get calculated into the averages and there would
>> still be an accounting of the numbers used.

>> Eileen

>> From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 6:14 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: Mike Freeman
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member To The List, and alternate
>> site testing

>> Veronica:

>> Amen multiple times over erroneous readings staying in the meters. Had
>> its manufacturer ever completed the 510(k) application with the FDA so
>> that its meter could be marketed here, the SensoCardPlus allowed
>> deleting of readings. But when I've talked to meter manufacturers,
>> they seemed extraordinarily resistant to patients having control over
>> which readings were kept, maintaining that this would lead to "patient
>> noncompliance". That is, they presumed that patients would delete
>> readings that weren't in their target bg ranges. To which I responded:
>> "Who cares? Patients would only be hurting themselves by falsifying or
>> leaving out valid but "bad" readings. It isn't the responsibility of
>> meter manufacturers to see that patients do what they're supposed to!"
>> Of course, my statement ended up floating like a lead balloon!
>> Which is why I only submit a written log.

>> Mike Freeman

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:32 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member To The List, and alternate
>> site testing

>> Wow! You're lucky Bridgit. I've been diabetic for almost 28 years now
>> and my fingers are a mess. I have been blind the entire time so have
>> done way more sticks requiring more blood than I would have sighted.
>> But for whatever reason, my fingers have these giant callouses on the
>> sides that are now really interfering with my ability to test as often
>> as I'd like. This is one of the reason I'd really like getting the CGM
>> so I could at least watch patterns and have some idea. I just haven't
>> yet made the time to sit down and lie, making up a fake log for a month.
>> And I did get crazy readings going both directions with the Prodigy.
>> Most of the time I do know if I'm really high or low, but not always.
>> Heck, given the current state of my fingers, if I thought I always
>> knew my reading by intuition, I wouldn't even think of using a meter.
>> Alas, that's not the case. What I really dislike about all meters that
>> do a test and then say, oh wait, not enough blood is that you now have
>> spurious readings in that log for good. I've had a couple of endos who
>> just never seemed to grasp that they were really not enough blood and
>> kept wanting to adjust my insulin dosages based on those way low
>> readings, for instance. That's why I stay with the FreeStyle Lite even
>> though it's a bit of a pain to connect it with a computer to read it.
>> It doesn't start the test until it verifies that the strip is full. So
>> while the final reading has the same 20 per cent variation that all
>> meters have, at least I don't fill up the memory with junk readings.
>> One would think more companies would be working like this in 2016.

>> Veronica

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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 6:33 AM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member To The List, and alternate
>> site testing

>> A few years ago, my doctor suggested I consider alternate site testing
>> just because I've been pricking my fingers for so long. Actually, my
>> fingers are good. No loss of sensitivity because of poking, and no
>> permanent calluses, (I moisturize frequently and alternate between all
>> fingers and all over the
>> fingers) but nonetheless, they thought it worth considering. When I
>> was a kid and sighted, they made the same suggestion so I could
>> alternate where I test, similar to how you alternate where you inject
>> insulin, but I never liked it. I currently use a Prodigy Voice, and my
>> nurse educator, who has been amazing and has become a family friend in
>> the last 13 years since I've known her, said alternate testing should
>> work fine. I just don't like the idea of testing elsewhere than my fingers.
>> The best I have done is start testing with my thumbs in the last 8
>> years or so. I've been diabetic for 30 years now, and my fingers are
>> still going strong, grin.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Paul Magill via Diabetes-talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 7:31 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member To The List, and alternate
>> site testing

>> Hi Daniel,

>> The manual I sent has a brief section on alternate testing, and to me
>> at least, it suggests that this is not practical for a blind person.

>> Most glucose meters don't have this feature anyway.

>> Regards,
>> Paul from Australia

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman via Diabetes-talk

>> Right. I once encountered a certified diabetes educator who swore
>> blind persons could do alternate site testing. But I've never met one.
>> The very thing which makes some folks like alternate site testing --
>> they can't feel the stick -- is the very thing that throws blind
>> persons for a loop. Also, the readings aren't quite as up-to-date as 
>> fingerstick readings.

>> Mike

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