[Diabetes-talk] New Member To The List, and alternate site testing

Mike Freeman k7uij at panix.com
Fri Feb 26 03:06:38 UTC 2016 

If you have Autocode strips, they should work fine in the Voice.

Mike


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From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-talk
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 5:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member To The List, and alternate site testing

Thanks so much,
We got one hundred strip for $12 for the prodigy, don't know if that is the same set or not.
If we find out they are not, I am wondering if they would exchange them.
We also got another meter, because I feel my oldest meter is giving out on me.

Original message:
> I've forgotten the exact cost but it's around eight dollars a box. I 
> buy autocode strips which work in the Voice. It mey even be a bit less 
> than eight bucks.

> Mike


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of d m gina via Diabetes-talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:42 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: d m gina
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member To The List, and alternate 
> site testing

> Would you share how many strips you can get and the price?
> Thanks, I still use the prodigy.
> We have encreased insulin.
> I am exercising on the treadmil for an hour and walking a mile with my 
> dog when there is no snow and ice.
> Thanks,

> Original message:
>> If I were denied strips, I'd tell whomever denied me to go to hell! 
>> In fact, I've found the best deal for Prodigy Autocode strips (work 
>> on the Prodigy Voice also) on Amazon. So although my insurance covers 
>> strips and has never asked me for a log, I've started buying them 
>> direct from Amazon.

>> Mike


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 4:13 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind
>> Cc: Eileen Scrivani
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member To The List, and alternate 
>> site testing

>> Mike,

>> I would not like to see erroneous readings deleted out of meter 
>> memory, since even those mistaken readings add into the total number 
>> of times per day I’ve tested.  If I have to use extra strips to get a 
>> reading which I believe, then I want to show that I have truthfully 
>> tested that number of times in a day.

>> Every time I call for a re-order of supplies, I am asked how many 
>> tests per day I do and the number of strips I have left in my on-hand supply.
>> The way the system currently works, I would not be surprised should 
>> the time come when doctors need to be able to read the memory for the 
>> purpose of determining the strip counts.  Perhaps a better way than 
>> deleting would be a marker to indicate there was a miss-read, that 
>> way the reading would not get calculated into the averages and there 
>> would still be an accounting of the numbers used.

>> Eileen

>> From: Mike Freeman via Diabetes-talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 6:14 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: Mike Freeman
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member To The List, and alternate 
>> site testing

>> Veronica:

>> Amen multiple times over erroneous readings staying in the meters. 
>> Had its manufacturer ever completed the 510(k) application with the 
>> FDA so that its meter could be marketed here, the SensoCardPlus 
>> allowed deleting of readings. But when I've talked to meter 
>> manufacturers, they seemed extraordinarily resistant to patients 
>> having control over which readings were kept, maintaining that this 
>> would lead to "patient noncompliance". That is, they presumed that 
>> patients would delete readings that weren't in their target bg ranges. To which I responded:
>> "Who cares? Patients would only be hurting themselves by falsifying 
>> or leaving out valid but "bad" readings. It isn't the responsibility 
>> of meter manufacturers to see that patients do what they're supposed to!"
>> Of course, my statement ended up floating like a lead balloon!
>> Which is why I only submit a written log.

>> Mike Freeman


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 2:32 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member To The List, and alternate 
>> site testing

>> Wow! You're lucky Bridgit. I've been diabetic for almost 28 years now 
>> and my fingers are a mess. I have been blind the entire time so have 
>> done way more sticks requiring more blood than I would have sighted.
>> But for whatever reason, my fingers have these giant callouses on the 
>> sides that are now really interfering with my ability to test as 
>> often as I'd like. This is one of the reason I'd really like getting 
>> the CGM so I could at least watch patterns and have some idea. I just 
>> haven't yet made the time to sit down and lie, making up a fake log for a month.
>> And I did get crazy readings going both directions with the Prodigy.
>> Most of the time I do know if I'm really high or low, but not always.
>> Heck, given the current state of my fingers, if I thought I always 
>> knew my reading by intuition, I wouldn't even think of using a meter.
>> Alas, that's not the case. What I really dislike about all meters 
>> that do a test and then say, oh wait, not enough blood is that you 
>> now have spurious readings in that log for good. I've had a couple of 
>> endos who just never seemed to grasp that they were really not enough 
>> blood and kept wanting to adjust my insulin dosages based on those 
>> way low readings, for instance. That's why I stay with the FreeStyle 
>> Lite even though it's a bit of a pain to connect it with a computer to read it.
>> It doesn't start the test until it verifies that the strip is full. 
>> So while the final reading has the same 20 per cent variation that 
>> all meters have, at least I don't fill up the memory with junk readings.
>> One would think more companies would be working like this in 2016.

>> Veronica


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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-talk
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 6:33 AM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member To The List, and alternate 
>> site testing

>> A few years ago, my doctor suggested I consider alternate site 
>> testing just because I've been pricking my fingers for so long. 
>> Actually, my fingers are good. No loss of sensitivity because of 
>> poking, and no permanent calluses, (I moisturize frequently and 
>> alternate between all fingers and all over the
>> fingers) but nonetheless, they thought it worth considering. When I 
>> was a kid and sighted, they made the same suggestion so I could 
>> alternate where I test, similar to how you alternate where you inject 
>> insulin, but I never liked it. I currently use a Prodigy Voice, and 
>> my nurse educator, who has been amazing and has become a family 
>> friend in the last 13 years since I've known her, said alternate 
>> testing should work fine. I just don't like the idea of testing elsewhere than my fingers.
>> The best I have done is start testing with my thumbs in the last 8 
>> years or so. I've been diabetic for 30 years now, and my fingers are 
>> still going strong, grin.

>> Bridgit

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Paul Magill via Diabetes-talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 7:31 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Paul Magill <magills at bigpond.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] New Member To The List, and alternate 
>> site testing

>> Hi Daniel,

>> The manual I sent has a brief section on alternate testing, and to me 
>> at least, it suggests that this is not practical for a blind person.

>> Most glucose meters don't have this feature anyway.

>> Regards,
>> Paul from Australia


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman via Diabetes-talk

>> Right. I once encountered a certified diabetes educator who swore 
>> blind persons could do alternate site testing. But I've never met one.
>> The very thing which makes some folks like alternate site testing -- 
>> they can't feel the stick -- is the very thing that throws blind 
>> persons for a loop. Also, the readings aren't quite as up-to-date as 
>> fingerstick readings.

>> Mike


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