[Diabetes-talk] Insulin Pumps, and Scar Tissue from Years of Syringes

Wed Nov 16 21:44:39 UTC 2016

Yeah, my degrees are in music and creative writing, so what do I know, grin.
The body is a very complex structure. Just fascinating.

Bridgit

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I would think that tissue response might be different than pain response but
hey, my degree's in music! <grin> But the body is such a fascinating complex
thing sometimes I think it's a wonder that any of us function. <grin>
Veronica

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I also have a freakishly high tolerance for pain. Not sure if it in any way
relates. When I went into labor with my son, I had no pain during
contractions. And after my C-section, no pain at all. Not even discomfort.
After my breast reduction, which I was told would be super painful
afterwards, nothing. Same with my broken ankle. First, I had no pain, just a
little discomfort when I broke it. The doctor assumed I just had a sprain
because I was in no pain and could still rotate it. But after he saw the
X-rays, he was shocked I was not in pain. Several bones were broke. I had to
have surgery, and again, no pain at all afterwards.

I feel pain if I'm pricked with something or burnt or knock hard into
something- it's not like I never feel pain. But for these major things, I
have not felt a drop of pain. No one can explain it.

Wonder if this relates at all to my skin tissue and why I haven't
experienced scar tissue or calluses. I've been very fortunate in this
regard, but it is curious to me.

Bridgit

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I wonder how much of the body's response is dictated by other inflammatory
factors or reactions. Just seems to be some variation in the way we heal and
respond to various little invaders, even those we put there ourselves.
<grin> I too have put tons of lotions and stuff on my fingers but alas, no
change. Guess it's making the best of the tissue we're dealt. <grin>
Veronica

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That's another thing. I've been testing for 30 years, and I test about 6 to
8 times a day, and I have few calluses on my fingers. You can't really feel
a difference where I test and where I don't. I do lotion frequently; perhaps
that helps.

I'm sure in another 30 years this will all be a different story, grin.

I've always been told to rotate injections/pump sets from side-to-side and
in various locations on each side. I've never heard to stick to one side for
a month. Interesting.

I agree that Joyce's training should have been set up the minute a pump was
approved and shipped. Someone dropped the ball there.

Bridgit

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I actually contacted the company myself and set up my own training because
we didn't have a decent training department. The arrangements for this
should have started as soon as everyone knew you'd be getting the pump.
Sheesh! 
As for scar tissue, I have no idea why my right side is worse. I alternate
one month on the left, one on the right and so on. When I first started I'd
alternate with each injection but a Minimed instructor who visited our pump
group said that you'd get better healing if you alternated month by month.
Don't know if it's true, but if it is, I was about 16 years late on that
one. <grin> I've been doing this just over 28 years. It's the same deal with
my fingers. When I find a spot that doesn't have a callous, no problem
getting blood. Come on geniuses! Let's see that next invention! <grin>
Veronica

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iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club. 
To learn more, visit:
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                Veronica Elsea, Owner
Laurel Creek Music Designs
Santa Cruz, California
Phone: 831-429-6407

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Your endo should have coordinated a training for immediately after you
received the pump. With both my Cosmo and Animas, the companies did not set
up trainings, it was my endo and diabetes educator at the clinic who trained
me. This should have all been set up a while ago. I would contact your endo
right away and set a training up. They will not contact you, you need to
contact them.

Bridgit

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As of Thanksgiving Day I will have been taking insulin for 58 years and
since I am right handed I would say I have been taking it more on the left
side then my right above my waist band.  My right does feel not as plyable
then my left.  

I will be getting the insulin pump tdelivered to my home on Thursday.  How
long does it take for Medtronics to hook you up with a trainer and they come
out and start training?  I don't have an appointment until 2 months from now
with the endocrinologist.

Joyce

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Hi All,
Since last Saturday, November 12, I have been taking Insulin for 50 years!
My right side of my lower abdomen has less scar tissue then the left.  What
is weird though, I inject my insulin more often in the right side then the
left side.  

Warmly, Joy

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Hello All,

I've recently realized an amazing difference in my insulin absorption with
my insulin pump that I've been using for I believe it's going on 3 years
now. Might be 2 years, though. I'm getting rather forgetful anymore. That's
what years of pretending you don't have Diabetes gets you. It's amazing how
much you learn after those teenage years when you know it all. Anyway, about
the insulin absorption... 

I thought I'd been safely sticking my tubing in spots where there wasn't
any, or at least very little, scar tissue from the decades of multiple
syringe pokes per day since I was 10 years old, y'know? Up along the edge of
my rib cage, above my belly button, on my kidney areas, etc. Places I
wouldn't have and don't think I did, stick nearly inch-long needles into
when I was using syringes, y'know? 

But I just the other day, almost a week ago now, tried sticking the site up
on the side of my chest area, between my nipple and my arm pit, basically.
And what a surprise, my blood sugars have not registered this well for this
many days in a row for years. Possibly decades. Seriously. I've had near
perfect sugar levels for almost a week straight now, and I'm not doing
anything different than I have been for the last couple/few years.
The only difference that I can recognize is that the injection/tubing site
is in a place where I have never, ever stuck a needle in my life. And so I'm
recognizing that not only over the last few months where I've been having
trouble finding sites where it will absorb decently through my scar tissue,
but it looks now like even when I thought it was absorbing okay most times,
it hadn't really been. Because I'm telling you, this past week has felt
great! 

Now, my question to you all is, has there been any research done on getting
injection sites for insulin pumps that will penetrate past and/or through
scar tissue, to absorb better? Because it seems that others like me, who've
been taking syringe shots multiple times per day for decades, might have
problems like this too. And as we continue on, the scar tissue isn't going
to dissipate or lessen, but rather, get worse. So, has any big pharma
company been researching how to help life-long type 1 diabetics absorb
insulin better as they age and deal with growing scar tissue?

Thanks,
Everett

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