[Diabetes-talk] Different Diet

Mon Oct 24 01:51:49 UTC 2016

Good Evening Everyone:

Sandi and Veronica, I'm with you both.  I would say with whatever I
eat, I seem to operate similarly with the two of you.  However, I do
have a niece who is on the Paleo thing.  For what I've heard, I find
interesting.  I'd actually like to learn more if someone could explain
to me.  My niece tried to send me a link but I couldn't seem to pull
it up for whatever reason.  Brigit, Maybe you and I can topuch base
sometime.  I'd really like to learn.

Have a wonderful, restful evening  Bill and I are going to retire for
the evening very soon here.

Bern

On 10/23/16, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> What really sparked some of my comments was attending an event a couple of
> weeks ago where box lunches were provided. A woman was attending who was
> prescribed this diet called whole foods plant based diet. And I don't mean
> the grocery store. <grin> But there was nothing there that she could eat.
> She managed to take a sandwich apart and munch a piece of turkey. I suppose
> once one has reached a certain level of commitment, perhaps the feeling of
> deprivation isn't so strong but I just found it hard to picure on a daily
> basis for me. But I've been around long enough never to say never! <grin>
> Veronica
>
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
> on
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> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 8:10 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>
> I agree about dieting. I don't believe in dieting. I do believe in making
> adjustments to lifestyle and learning to consistently work with a
> particular
> mealplan, whatever that may be for any given person. In all things, I think
> balance is key.
>
> I don't know about research, but from personal experience, as a type one
> diabetic who is insulin dependent, when I tried Atkins, I found my blood
> sugars actually were all over the place, particularly running higher. I had
> to incorporate some form of carbs for a balance to my glucose levels. Paleo
> does not cut out all carbs, just wheat and grains, so this has worked very
> well for me. Again, doesn't mean what works for me will for someone else,
> but this has been my personal experience. And again, I have no actual
> medical research to back anything up on no-carbs, but this was what
> happened
> for me.
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 8:08 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>
> What the research really shows is that nearly any eating pattern you can
> maintain can work for you.
>
> And again, giving up whole groups of food isn't conducive in the long-term
> to stable eating and good health. A lot of the research around vegetarian
> diets is based on hypotheses about how much better they are for the
> environment.
>
> Having said that, we are adults here, and one can choose to try nearly any
> diet, particularly as a well-controlled Type 2. I did Atkins for about two
> years. What I found was that the induction phase (to which I added nuts and
> berries from Day 1) helped me kick the truly meaningless products we tend
> to
> overeat--foods with lots of sugar and white flour (or other flour, for that
> matter), and processed foods like chips, crackers, cereals, etc.
>
> But I found I'm not willing to skip sweets when they're the basis of a
> birthday party, for instance. I decided about 20 years ago that I do not
> diet. I eat the foods I truly want at a given meal or snack, in reasonable
> portions, and try to balance my eating over time--a week, say--rather than
> stick to an inflexible meal plan.
>
> Occasionally, such as Thursday, I eat chips or crackers or something when
> I'm out. Thursday I had homemade corn chips with homemade salsa. I think it
> was six or 7 chips and maybe 1/4 cup salsa. Very tasty, and not something I
> eat at home more than a time or two a year.
>
> Try making every food available to yourself, picking those foods you really
> want to eat, working to balance your meals and snacks with foods you maybe
> don't crave but like to keep things healthy, and make feeding yourself so
> you're not hungry between times a goal. Remember that you can eat
> carbs--you
> just need to pay attention and not eat too many, and get enough protein and
> fat to keep your body satisfied.
>
> The one thing I think is important for people using insulin is to be aware
> that you need to be careful about eating very low-carb, particularly if
> your
> body produces no insulin. That's a subject I'm less familiar with, since I
> was not a diabetes dietitian, and do not use insulin.
>
> Balance is important. And remember these are general guidelines, not a
> prescription. If you need your personal diet adjusted or help with knowing
> exactly how to fit your eating into your lifestyle, please consult a
> currently practicing dietitian.
>
> Sandi
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 7:23 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>
> More and more research shows the positive effect of such diets, but again,
> if you truly don't have the discipline to follow and just really enjoy
> certain foods, it's better to stick to a mealplan you can consistently
> follow instead of starting and stopping another.
>
> Personally, I like the Paleo mealplan. I started this this past winter and
> stuck with it until I became pregnant. I'm not majorly cheating on it, but
> once I have this baby, I plan to go back full on it. Essentially, you cut
> out wheat, grains, dairy and refined sugars. You're supposed to eat organic
> too, but I just do it as much as possible. Most my carbs come from fruit.
> You can do modified versions of Paleo where you keep dairy or certain kind
> of grains. I've found cutting out wheat and grains to make a huge
> difference
> with my digestive system and blood sugars. I do have Greek yogurt from
> time-to-time too. Personally, I don't find this to be a super restrictive
> diet, nor that difficult to follow. But it can take time to adjust. It does
> require a little food prep for most meals, but it's not a major problem, in
> my opinion.
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 7:06 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>
> Here at our medical clinic, they are pushing this diet as an anti
> inflammatory diet. So if you go see a physiatrist for, say, neck pain, you
> get put into classes to learn this diet. I'm having a hard time quite
> buying
> it. I can see cutting back on things but total elimination? Not at my
> house.
> <grin>
> Veronica
>
>
> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now available
> on
> iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide Dog Glee Club.
> To learn more, visit:
> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
> Laurel Creek Music Designs
> Santa Cruz, California
> Phone: 831-429-6407
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> g
> melconian via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 4:39 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: g melconian
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>
> Sandy good to know. Also anytoher tipsthat you amy have for us.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 4:19 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> As a retired dietitian, I hate any diet that says "no no no no no!" That's
> one that will be out the door before you know it! If it doesn't fit your
> lifestyle, it won't work, and it's not necessary. If you might like some of
> the recipes, try them, and add them to your regular menu. Or you could try
> out the diet by having one day a week be vegetarian (not necessarily
> vegan).
> But really, leaving out whole food groups is unnecessary and unsatisfying,
> if you ask me. Keep meat portions relatively small, eat your fruits and
> veggies, add a little grain and/or potato, and be happy! It's best not to
> do
> things that are wildly different than your normal. Especially when your
> diabetes is obviously well-controlled.
>
> Sandi
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> David Andrews via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 1:31 PM
> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
> Cc: David Andrews
> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>
> I have a question -- curious to see what people think ... at the risk of
> starting a firestorm.
>
> First, let me say, I have very mild type 2 diabetes, A1C of 6.6.
>
> I just read a book by Dr. Neil Barnard, in which he promotes a low fat diet
> as a way to combat type 2 diabetes. He says basically, vegan, no red meat,
> no poultry, no fish, no dairy, no animal fats, and no eggs.  I can see how
> it might work, but would hate giving up my meat!
>
> Dave
>
>
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