[Diabetes-talk] Different Diet

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On 10/25/16, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
<diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Yes, baby number 2 due in February. A little unexpected surprise for our
> family, grin.
>
> Bridgit
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 3:30 PM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>
> Bridget, did I hear you say you were pregnant??? Good for you!!! Blessings
> to you and your family!! This is so exciting!! I'm happy for you!!
>
> Bern.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 25, 2016, at 4:05 PM, Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Bridgit,
>>
>> I didn't think it was. You had said that before. And my comments were
>> not intended as a direct response to anything you've said, just to
>> provide the science that tells people there's no good reason to cut
>> out whole food groups. I believe I also said (and meant) that we are
>> adults and will do what we'll do. I have, myself, said I followed
>> Atkins for a time and found a bit of benefit. At one of our DAN
>> meetings I talked about ways to fit in the diet you like best.
>>
>> Forgive my dietitian-ness. I'm afraid it's built in.
>>
>> I'll butt out of this discussion now, having added what I thought
>> needed to be said for everyone's benefit.
>>
>> Sandi
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 1:25 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>>
>> Sandy,
>>
>> My comment was not an argument for or against Paleo or any other diet.
>> Just a mere observation made from both research and what I know of
>> most people. I don't disagree with you, but if going to have a
>> discussion on food and diet, we all need to be honest and consider every
> angle.
>>
>> I mostly started Paleo because I could not drop the remaining 10
>> pounds from my pregnancy. I found it to help me take off the extra few
>> pounds in addition to intensifying my exercise program. Now I'm
>> pregnant again, so I'm not so hard-core about sticking to Paleo or
>> exercising as frequently as I was before. But even before doing Paleo,
>> I was a pretty healthy eater, at least in terms of the type of food I
>> eat. In all honesty, I problem do not eat enough calories in a day as
>> I should, but when my schedule gets busy, I tend to eat less.
>> Fortunately for me, I'm not a binger and am used to ignoring hunger,
>> so I don't typically end up eating more later. I keep to 3 meals, but
>> often small things I can eat quickly, like turkey wraps or an apple
>> and cheese or a Greek yogurt. I don't always take the time to prepare
>> a full meal. But when I did Paleo, I did find that cutting out wheat
>> and grains for me helped with a lot of things, including glucose
>> control. My endo has been very encouraging of Paleo as well. So once I
>> have this baby, I plan to try it more intensively again, though like I
> already have said, I do keep dairy in and specifically hummus, which is
> made
> from legumes.
>>
>> I'm not a pusher of medication for anything unless absolutely
>> necessary. I do take a vitamin C yearly, and obviously, now pregnant,
>> I take a daily vitamin, though it's just a kids vitamin on top of folic
> acid 3 times a day.
>> But I do not think supplementing pills can make up for eating whole,
>> fresh foods. I would never encourage anyone to do this, especially if
>> they think they are getting the exact same nutrition.
>>
>> I know vegans who are super healthy. Their yearly doctor visits show
>> they are in great shape, lacking nothing. They do a vegan diet in the
>> proper way, making sure to eat as balanced of a diet as possible on a
>> vegan diet. I also know people who don't cut anything out but keep to
>> a low-carb diet and are in great health too. It's all about what works
>> for you, and if you can maintain a lifestyle. It's about personal
>> choices in addition to health. At the end of the day, if you are in
>> good health, and something works, why change?
>>
>> Bridgit
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 12:18 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>>
>> That isn't actually true, Bridgit. It has been said over and over, but
>> if an American eats healthy, we get enough calories and have enough
>> food readily available (unless we live in "food deserts or are very
>> poor") to get all the nutrients we need. Because of all the food
>> available to us, we often eat too much or choose foods that aren't as
>> healthy as they might be, so there may be people who need a standard
>> multi-vitamin. Generally, though, we are not malnourished, but
>> overnourished. And many of our manufactured foods have nutrients added
>> (enriched grains in bread, crackers, cereals, pretzels,
>> etc.) or are "fortified" with them (Vitamin D in milk products). The
>> reason for the myth that our diets are lousy and need supplementing
>> comes from the production of millions of bottles of many supplements
>> developed by manufacturers ... to make them rich! When a company
>> creates a product, the first thing they do is develop a market for
>> that product, not with the goal of making Americans healthier, but
>> with the goal of making their pockets bulge. And because of the way
>> the laws are currently written, there are no regulations on
>> supplements as there are on medications. So a person can read on the
>> Internet "I have found that taking 1,000 times the recommended dose of
>> this supplement makes me feel young and alive," go to the drugstore
>> and buy that supplement, and be on their way. That's not exactly what
> we're talking about here with multivitamins and such, but it can grow to
> that.
>>
>> I guess my biggest question about most diets that are highly
>> restrictive and cut out whole food groups is why? What does one gain
>> by doing that? I have the same question about "health foods" that are
>> manufactured to be low in fat, or sometimes, low in sugar. Why? It
>> makes so much more sense to eat the foods (all the foods) you love and
>> eat them in smaller portions than to buy manufactured foods and
>> supplements to make up for the foods you cut out. In the case of the
>> Paleo diet, you're cuttting out two classes of foods, whole grains and
>> legumes, that are packed with nutrition and of which small amounts
>> could provide a fair amount of what you eat. If you don't like those
>> foods, certainly there are other foods that can provide those
>> nutrients--beans (legumes) are an excellent meat equivalent--but if
>> you eat both meat and legumes, you get more variety and thus more
>> nutrition. The reason for specifying whole grains is that they have
>> their natural nutrients, instead of having those nutrients milled out
>> then
> added back as synthetics.
>>
>> The exceptions to my supplement rant are: While you are pregnant or
>> nursing you need a multivitamin specific to a pregnant woman. That's
>> because you are not only feeding yourself but your fetus, and it would
>> be hard to eat enough for both of you. During this time, you also need
> more calories.
>>
>> People who do not get sun frequently enough (10-15 minutes several
>> days a
>> week) and/or don't use dairy products, need Vitamin D. And likely
>> calcium, since as I said, there is some calcium in veggies, but not
>> enough. And calcium and Vitamin D work together, so it's good to
>> supplement them that way.
>>
>> And if your diet is really horrible--no veggies or fruits, mostly
>> lower-quality foods (fast-food every day), take a multivitamin. It
>> can't hurt and might help. The problem is, it won't make your diet
>> better, which is the only thing that can make you truly healthier.
>>
>> So there's the science.
>> Does it change anything? It doesn't have to. We act mostly on our
>> beliefs, which may be valid or not, but they are ours. I have things I
>> do because I believe them, too, even knowing they're not true. But
>> thanks for indulging me to tell the truth about eating and especially,
>> about supplements. Some work, most don't, and what you get in that
>> bottle often isn't what you expect, because of the complete lack of
>> regulation. In fresh foods, you can know pretty much what you're
>> getting, and there is even more regulation of foods than of
>> supplements, so you can be surer of foods than supplements anyway.
>>
>> Now you can choose what to eat and what to supplement or skip, and you
>> can do it knowing the science behind the truth.
>>
>> Sandi
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 11:06 AM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>>
>> Very few people, even those who eat healthy, get the adequate amount
>> of nutrition in a day. Most of us should probably be on daily vitamins
>> in order to receive proper nutrition, smile.
>>
>> Bridgit
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 10:14 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>>
>> There is some calcium in some of the vegetables. Probably not enough,
>> though. I haven't read about Paleo lately, but some of the diets
>> recommend taking a multivitamin each day that contains 100-150 percent
>> of each vitamin's RDA, and taking a calcium supplement with Vitamin D
>> (cholecalciferol, not ergocalciferol) to make sure you get all the
>> nutrients you need.
>>
>> Sandi
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 8:36 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>>
>> Not sure, but it would be the same for someone doing vegan, or if you
>> have allergies to dairy.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 3:34 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>>
>> How is this diet for calcium. My inclusion of Greek yogurt and cheese
>> has stopped my rheumatologist from threatening me with calcium pills.
>> Now I'll have to hit Google. <grin> Thanks for the info.
>> Veronica
>>
>>
>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now
>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the Guide
> Dog Glee Club.
>> To learn more, visit:
>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>                 Veronica Elsea, Owner
>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>> Santa Cruz, California
>> Phone: 831-429-6407
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 10:58 AM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>>
>> Fortunately for me, I'm not a coffee drinker, grin.
>>
>> Bridgit
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mark Tardif via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 11:37 AM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Mark Tardif <markspark at roadrunner.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>>
>> Give up coffee?  That's an essential food, especially if it comes from
>> Starbucks or Tim Horton's, the coffee shop up here in northern Maine.
> LOL.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mark Tardif
>> Nuclear arms will not hold you.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 12:04 PM
>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>>
>> Bern,
>>
>> If you Google Paleo diet, a ton pops up.
>>
>> Basically, you cut out grains, wheat, dairy, refined sugar, legumes,
>> and technically you eat all organic. People do modified versions of
>> Paleo, like some still include dairy, or some will still have wheat
>> and grains at times, though you should limit them even on a modified
>> version. A majority of carbs will come from fruit and some veggies
>> like sweet potatoes. You should avoid or sparingly use regular
>> potatoes. Typically you also cut out soda and coffe and tea unless
>> herbal, though, again, if doing modified version, you can have these
>> things from time-to-time. And if you can't do organic for everything,
> that's okay.
>>
>> It's not as difficult to implement as you think. I found it
>> overwhelming at first, as I researched it, but once I started, it was not
> so difficult.
>>
>> I do a modified version as I still do Greek yogurt at times and
>> hummus, which is made from legumes.
>>
>> An example of my daily meals may be 2 eggs cooked in coconut oil and a
>> banana with turkey sausage for breakfast. For lunch, grilled chicken
>> with a dry rub, lettuce salad with olive oil and red vinegar home-made
>> dressing and veggie chips. Dinner may be more grilled meat or a
>> lettuce wrap sandwhich, carrot fries baked in coconut oil and another
>> salad. Snacks are nuts and seeds, fruit and veggies, Larabars, etc. A lot
> of Paleo recipes are online.
>> My picky son and husband enjoy a lot of the recipes I have found.
>>
>> Bridgit
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Bernadette Jacobs via Diabetes-Talk
>> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 8:52 PM
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Bernadette Jacobs <bernienfb75 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>>
>> Good Evening Everyone:
>>
>> Sandi and Veronica, I'm with you both.  I would say with whatever I
>> eat, I seem to operate similarly with the two of you.  However, I do
>> have a niece who is on the Paleo thing.  For what I've heard, I find
>> interesting.  I'd actually like to learn more if someone could explain
>> to me.  My niece tried to send me a link but I couldn't seem to pull it
>> up
> for whatever reason.
>> Brigit, Maybe you and I can topuch base sometime.  I'd really like to
> learn.
>>
>> Have a wonderful, restful evening  Bill and I are going to retire for
>> the evening very soon here.
>>
>> Bern
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/23/16, Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>> <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>> What really sparked some of my comments was attending an event a
>>> couple of weeks ago where box lunches were provided. A woman was
>>> attending who was prescribed this diet called whole foods plant based
>>> diet. And I don't mean the grocery store. <grin> But there was
>>> nothing
>> there that she could eat.
>>> She managed to take a sandwich apart and munch a piece of turkey. I
>>> suppose once one has reached a certain level of commitment, perhaps
>>> the feeling of deprivation isn't so strong but I just found it hard
>>> to picure on a daily basis for me. But I've been around long enough
>>> never to say never! <grin> Veronica
>>>
>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now
>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the
>>> Guide Dog Glee Club.
>>> To learn more, visit:
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
>>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 8:10 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>>>
>>> I agree about dieting. I don't believe in dieting. I do believe in
>>> making adjustments to lifestyle and learning to consistently work
>>> with a particular mealplan, whatever that may be for any given
>>> person. In all things, I think balance is key.
>>>
>>> I don't know about research, but from personal experience, as a type
>>> one diabetic who is insulin dependent, when I tried Atkins, I found
>>> my blood sugars actually were all over the place, particularly
>>> running higher. I had to incorporate some form of carbs for a balance
>>> to my glucose levels. Paleo does not cut out all carbs, just wheat
>>> and grains, so this has worked very well for me. Again, doesn't mean
>>> what works for me will for someone else, but this has been my
>>> personal experience. And again, I have no actual medical research to
>>> back anything up on no-carbs, but this was what happened for me.
>>>
>>> Bridgit
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 8:08 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>>>
>>> What the research really shows is that nearly any eating pattern you
>>> can maintain can work for you.
>>>
>>> And again, giving up whole groups of food isn't conducive in the
>>> long-term to stable eating and good health. A lot of the research
>>> around vegetarian diets is based on hypotheses about how much better
>>> they are for the environment.
>>>
>>> Having said that, we are adults here, and one can choose to try
>>> nearly any diet, particularly as a well-controlled Type 2. I did
>>> Atkins for about two years. What I found was that the induction phase
>>> (to which I added nuts and berries from Day 1) helped me kick the
>>> truly meaningless products we tend to overeat--foods with lots of
>>> sugar and white flour (or other flour, for that matter), and
>>> processed foods like chips, crackers, cereals, etc.
>>>
>>> But I found I'm not willing to skip sweets when they're the basis of
>>> a birthday party, for instance. I decided about 20 years ago that I
>>> do not diet. I eat the foods I truly want at a given meal or snack,
>>> in reasonable portions, and try to balance my eating over time--a
>>> week, say--rather than stick to an inflexible meal plan.
>>>
>>> Occasionally, such as Thursday, I eat chips or crackers or something
>>> when I'm out. Thursday I had homemade corn chips with homemade salsa.
>>> I think it was six or 7 chips and maybe 1/4 cup salsa. Very tasty,
>>> and not something I eat at home more than a time or two a year.
>>>
>>> Try making every food available to yourself, picking those foods you
>>> really want to eat, working to balance your meals and snacks with
>>> foods you maybe don't crave but like to keep things healthy, and make
>>> feeding yourself so you're not hungry between times a goal. Remember
>>> that you can eat carbs--you just need to pay attention and not eat
>>> too many, and get enough protein and fat to keep your body satisfied.
>>>
>>> The one thing I think is important for people using insulin is to be
>>> aware that you need to be careful about eating very low-carb,
>>> particularly if your body produces no insulin. That's a subject I'm
>>> less familiar with, since I was not a diabetes dietitian, and do not
>>> use insulin.
>>>
>>> Balance is important. And remember these are general guidelines, not
>>> a prescription. If you need your personal diet adjusted or help with
>>> knowing exactly how to fit your eating into your lifestyle, please
>>> consult a currently practicing dietitian.
>>>
>>> Sandi
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 7:23 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>>>
>>> More and more research shows the positive effect of such diets, but
>>> again, if you truly don't have the discipline to follow and just
>>> really enjoy certain foods, it's better to stick to a mealplan you
>>> can consistently follow instead of starting and stopping another.
>>>
>>> Personally, I like the Paleo mealplan. I started this this past
>>> winter and stuck with it until I became pregnant. I'm not majorly
>>> cheating on it, but once I have this baby, I plan to go back full on it.
>>> Essentially, you cut out wheat, grains, dairy and refined sugars.
>>> You're supposed to eat organic too, but I just do it as much as
>>> possible.
>> Most my carbs come from fruit.
>>> You can do modified versions of Paleo where you keep dairy or certain
>>> kind of grains. I've found cutting out wheat and grains to make a
>>> huge difference with my digestive system and blood sugars. I do have
>>> Greek yogurt from time-to-time too. Personally, I don't find this to
>>> be a super restrictive diet, nor that difficult to follow. But it can
>>> take time to adjust. It does require a little food prep for most
>>> meals, but it's not a major problem, in my opinion.
>>>
>>> Bridgit
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Veronica Elsea via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 7:06 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Veronica Elsea <veronica at laurelcreekmusic.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>>>
>>> Here at our medical clinic, they are pushing this diet as an anti
>>> inflammatory diet. So if you go see a physiatrist for, say, neck
>>> pain, you get put into classes to learn this diet. I'm having a hard
>>> time quite buying it. I can see cutting back on things but total
>>> elimination? Not at my house.
>>> <grin>
>>> Veronica
>>>
>>>
>>> "Guide Dogs, First Hand", Veronica Elsea's classic album is now
>>> available on iTunes, along with other music from her and from the
>>> Guide Dog Glee Club.
>>> To learn more, visit:
>>> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com
>>>                Veronica Elsea, Owner
>>> Laurel Creek Music Designs
>>> Santa Cruz, California
>>> Phone: 831-429-6407
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of g melconian via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 4:39 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
>>> Cc: g melconian
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>>>
>>> Sandy good to know. Also anytoher tipsthat you amy have for us.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Sandra Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 4:19 PM
>>> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: Sandra Ryan <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> As a retired dietitian, I hate any diet that says "no no no no no!"
>>> That's one that will be out the door before you know it! If it
>>> doesn't fit your lifestyle, it won't work, and it's not necessary. If
>>> you might like some of the recipes, try them, and add them to your
>>> regular menu. Or you could try out the diet by having one day a week
>>> be vegetarian (not necessarily vegan).
>>> But really, leaving out whole food groups is unnecessary and
>>> unsatisfying, if you ask me. Keep meat portions relatively small, eat
>>> your fruits and veggies, add a little grain and/or potato, and be
>>> happy! It's best not to do things that are wildly different than your
>>> normal. Especially when your diabetes is obviously well-controlled.
>>>
>>> Sandi
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of David Andrews via Diabetes-Talk
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2016 1:31 PM
>>> To: diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Cc: David Andrews
>>> Subject: [Diabetes-talk] Different Diet
>>>
>>> I have a question -- curious to see what people think ... at the risk
>>> of starting a firestorm.
>>>
>>> First, let me say, I have very mild type 2 diabetes, A1C of 6.6.
>>>
>>> I just read a book by Dr. Neil Barnard, in which he promotes a low
>>> fat diet as a way to combat type 2 diabetes. He says basically,
>>> vegan, no red meat, no poultry, no fish, no dairy, no animal fats, and
>>> no
> eggs.
>>> I can see how it might work, but would hate giving up my meat!
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
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