[Diabetes-Talk] Accu Chek Guide.

Mon Jan 14 01:10:27 UTC 2019

It's supposed to be a consumer organization which by rights means any
product likely to be consumed is fair gaim for testing.  The FDA
certainly hasn't been any assistance with manufacturers for medical
device accessibility and I suspect no such observation has been made at
the International Headquarters.

On Sun, 13 Jan 2019, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk wrote:

> Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2019 16:44:58
> From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Accu Chek Guide.
>
> Yes, I'm not aware of any division or group in the NFB testing medical devices for accessibility. At the Jernigan Institute, they focus on tech primarily for school and employment, so screenreaders, voice-over, smart devices, laptops, etc. And they are not developing their own tech, just looking at what is out there, manufactured by other companies and sometimes, they will approach a company, like Apple, and discuss accessibility and what can be done. And as stated here, you can make an appointment to play with tech and devices, but it's usually smart devices and screenreaders, etc. But I don't believe they do anything with medical equipment.
>
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> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 3:19 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Accu Chek Guide.
>
> Well they clearly don't spend time on medical technology in this division. There is no question but that the trial and testing of medical technology is currently up to us as individuals. It's the only way we're going to have choices, in my opinion. As for me, right now, I'm just so happy with how infrequently I have to do finger sticks, at least as long as I can afford the Dexcom. <grin> Veronica
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk [mailto:diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 10:05 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Accu Chek Guide.
>
> Ah, okay. Yes, had a couple of friends work there, grin.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of sandi via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 11:05 AM
> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Accu Chek Guide.
>
> It?s called the International Braille and Technology Center.
>
> Sandi
>
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Jude DaShiell via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2019 9:58 AM
> To: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Cc: Jude DaShiell
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Accu Chek Guide.
>
> It's in the Baltimore Headquarters.  I'm surprised you never heard of it.  The lab has everything that is or was on the market for computer accessibility and does testing on that equipment and software as well as demonstrations for people by appointment only.
> In order to do that testing and those demonstrations, the staff have to be really effective understanding accessibility.
>
> On Sat, 12 Jan 2019, Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk wrote:
>
> > Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 22:55:24
> > From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> > <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Accu Chek Guide.
> >
> > What is the "NFB technical lab?" Never heard of it, and I have
> > leadership positions in the org. Doesn't mean I know everything, far
> > from it, but I've never heard of such a division in the NFB.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of
> > Jude DaShiell via Diabetes-Talk
> > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 8:44 PM
> > To: sandi via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Accu Chek Guide.
> >
> > The problem is, the D.A.N. hasn't got the accessibility background the
> > N.F.B. technical lab has got.  I can probably get one of those meters
> > from my local drugstore and I have a good reason since Solus went out
> > of business.  I have the Freestyle lite, but that's inaccessible and
> > can't pair with my iPhone.
> >
> > On Sat, 12 Jan 2019, sandi via Diabetes-Talk wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 18:52:24
> > > From: sandi via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > Cc: sandi <sjryan2 at gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Accu Chek Guide.
> > >
> > > I sincerely doubt the NFB will do that. If it were to be done, I
> > > think
> > they?d expect the DAN to do it. Sigh!
> > >
> > > Sandi
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> > >
> > > From: Jude DaShiell via Diabetes-Talk
> > > Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2019 3:53 PM
> > > To: Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> > > Cc: Jude DaShiell
> > > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Accu Chek Guide.
> > >
> > > This meter needs to be acquired by the NFB technical lab and have
> > > one of their lab workers set one of these meters up with an iphone
> > > or a range of iphones to find out what kinds of phone and what
> > > versions of ios won't work and then provide us a real accessibility
> > > review. I could get one of those meters myself and try it with
> > > sighted assistance and write a review for this list, but I think it
> > > would be better if something like this were done on an official
> > > capacity. On Sat, 12 Jan 2019, Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk wrote:
> > >
> > > > Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2019 11:17:15
> > > > From: Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > > To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > > Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Accu Chek Guide.
> > > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > Just an update. I called Accu Chek customer service yesterday to
> > > > ask
> > about the Guide glucose meter. It seems that in setting up the meter
> > sighted assistance is a requirement. During set up there is a code
> > that would need to be entered on your smart phone for pairing it
> > through blue tooth. The code displays on the meter and needs to be
> > entered on the smart phone. Then there is also the date and time that
> > needs to be manually entered. If setup was a one time item I suppose
> > this would not be too difficult to get done, but there seem to be other instances when items may need to be reset.
> > > >
> > > > Apparently, there are 2 apps that work with Accu Chek meters/devices.
> > One is called ?Accu Chek Connect? which is specifically for Accu Chek
> > brand products only. The second app is called Sugar which is some kind
> > of generic app that if I understood the rep correctly works with a variety of meters.
> > So depending on what app is being used accessibility may vary or be
> > non-existent. It was the Connect app I downloaded to my phone the
> > other day and at first glance seemed to work well, but that was
> > without a meter being paired to my phone.
> > > >
> > > > He also told me that while the meter sincs with the smart device,
> > > > if the
> > blue tooth connection is lost or dropped then the date and time would
> > need to be re-entered. He could not wrap his head around the fact that
> > there was a talking option so I tried explaining that it is a function
> > of the smart phone, not their meters. I still have questions about how
> > well it would work with a smart phone just because in dealing with
> > people who are inexperienced in issues of blindness the facts get
> > blurred and confused because the sightlings get hung up on how we do
> > work-arounds to getting tasks done <LOL>.
> > > >
> > > > That?s it for now.
> > > >
> > > > Eileen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> > > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 2:32 PM
> > > > To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> > > > Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> > > > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Accu Chek Guide.
> > > >
> > > > Eileen,
> > > >
> > > > Yes, please let us know what you find out.
> > > >
> > > > Bridgit
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf
> > > > Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> > > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 12:58 PM
> > > > To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > > Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> > > > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Accu Chek Guide.
> > > >
> > > > Hi Bridgett,
> > > >
> > > > I?m in the same boat as you. I live alone and even though there is
> > family that I can ask to come over, I hate having to take that course
> > of action.
> > > >
> > > > If there is anyway I can do things on my own its always the
> > > > preferred,
> > and faster way around things. Just remember I based my comments about
> > the glucose meter on the video from YouTube. it might be that the app
> > would allow us to do a setup and adjust date & times, but without
> > having both the meter & app to try out together with VoiceOver or
> > whatever screen reader you would use, there is no way of knowing with
> > certainty. If I can locate a customer service number for Roache I will
> > try calling to ask more questions about it.
> > > >
> > > > Eileen
> > > > From: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> > > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 1:09 PM
> > > > To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind'
> > > > Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter
> > > > Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Accu Chek Guide.
> > > >
> > > > Eileen,
> > > >
> > > > Good to know. Thanks for sharing what you found. This is not a
> > criticism, but some of us don't want to have, or can't have, sighted
> > assistance for things, so, it's good to know what can and cannot be
> > done completely nonvisually. Both my husband and I are blind and don't
> > see sighted people like family who can help with daily stuff like this
> > on a regular basis. So for me, choosing a meter that requires some
> > sighted assistance is probably not the way to go. But it does seem
> > like a potential option, which is good.
> > > >
> > > > Bridgit
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf
> > > > Of Eileen Scrivani via Diabetes-Talk
> > > > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 10:09 AM
> > > > To: NFB Diabetes Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > > Cc: Eileen Scrivani <etscrivani at verizon.net>
> > > > Subject: [Diabetes-Talk] Accu Chek Guide.
> > > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > I looked up the Accu Chek Guide this morning and I am questioning
> > > > if
> > someone with no vision would be able to use the meter. The item that
> > is making me question its usability is when asked for date & time in the setup.
> > I was watching a YouTube video and it showed the meter?s set up.
> > However the set up was not done with a blue tooth connection to a
> > smart device. Its just one of those small little details that could
> > hang up the whole usability of the meter by a person who is blind and
> > who does not have sighted assistance to help out. If it?s a matter of
> > setting date once and then the meter would retain the date & time
> > values and account for day light savings changes that could be worked
> > around, but would become more of a issue if the date & time values
> > needed to be manually re-entered say with each battery change &/or day
> > light savings. The other question is also if these settings would be adjustable through an app.
> > > >
> > > > I also looked in the app store and the only app I could locate for
> > > > Accu
> > Chek was ?Accu Chek Connect?. I?m not sure if this is the same app
> > that will work with the Guide meter. I did download the Connect app to
> > my IPhone and the first 2 or so screens did seem to read, but without
> > having a meter to test it out thoroughly, its impossible for me to be
> > 100% sure. If I can get a free meter and sample test strips I?m
> > willing to give it a try. I just don?t want to have to purchase a
> > large quantity of strips to findout it has problems that can?t be worked around.
> > > >
> > > > Eileen
> > > >
> > > >
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