[Diabetes-Talk] Food exchange site?

Jamie Gurganus jamielgurganus at gmail.com
Thu Sep 12 14:51:06 UTC 2019


Sandy,


I am following the almost identical died that you are these days. I find that all of the above things you mentioned will spike my blood sugar very high and take forever to get back down. I do miss having a bowl of cereal with almond milk in the morning, but I just can’t make it work for me. I do know that other people can eat these things, such as oatmeal and just take more insulin to cover for it. However, that just doesn’t seem to work for me. Like you said, every diabetic is different in what affects them and what doesn’t. After 49 years of being a diabetic, I am finding that I am more sensitive to foods that used to not affect my blood sugars. I also know that it takes forever for my high blood sugar to get back down to normal. I keep my Dexcom high alert set at 160, since I feel terrible once I hit 180 and have to take a huge amount of insulin to get it back down to normal.

        Jamie

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> On Sep 12, 2019, at 9:39 AM, Sandi Ryan via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, Bridgit. I guess my comments were about my personal way of handling
> things. I do not restrict foods. If I find a food that really affects my
> blood sugar, I eat it very seldom. And there's a lot less calculation with
> Type 2. But I have cut out almost all sugar, non-nutritive sweeteners, and
> refined flours from my diet, meaning very few processed foods (no crackers,
> chips, cereals, baked goods, etc. made with these things), which is, by the
> way, different from cutting out a whole food group or two. Doing that has
> made diabetes Type 2 very easy to handle. 
> 
> So thanks for your comments. I'm right and you're right. It depends on the
> control the person has.
> 
> Sandi
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Bridgit
> Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 7:52 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Food exchange site?
> 
> Completely agree, except what you describe is what I do as a type 1. Or
> really anyone using insulin to meal bolus. In my opinion, type 2s not
> bolusing have tighter practices  and more restrictions than a type 1 who
> essentially can eat whatever, whenever as long as they have their
> insulin/carb ratio right and are using it correctly. I don't personally eat
> a lot of carbs, but with my pump, I just calculate my insulin/carb ratio
> whenever I eat carbs, and it doesn't matter what time of day it is, or what
> type of carb. Same for anyone bolusing with a pen.
> 
> But regardless if type 1 or type 2 or using insulin, counting carbs is the
> most important thing. And understanding how carbs work in the body,
> particularly your own, grin.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Sandi
> Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:14 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: sjryan2 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Food exchange site?
> 
> Right. And MyFitnessPal may be a good long-run tool, but to learn about
> exchanges, you need to get the booklet from, I think, the American Diabetes
> Association to find out what the exchanges are. Reading the nutrients in
> foods can be pretty daunting when you first start, and sometimes one is
> better with an idea of what's in a food rather than the exact amount of a
> nutrient down to the nearest half-gram or whatever. Also, for learning, my
> objection to MyFitnessPal and other apps (there are quite a few!) is that
> many of the foods listed are entered by individual users, who may or may not
> have carefully calculated the serving sizes and the nutrients in those
> servings. As I said, they can be good tools, but I think it's better to
> learn about the options first. I do not in any way recommend counting
> calories! Energy is the least important thing to know about your food! For
> people with diabetes, who don't have kidney disease anyway, the most
> important nutrient is the carbohydrate count in the serving of whatever you
> ate. And over time I recommend learning approximate carb counts for the
> foods you eat most frequently, establishing an eating pattern, and not
> counting anything because you've learned the usual foods. Then you can just
> look up new foods as needed, rather than counting things carefully. This is
> advice for Type 2's. If you're a Type 1, you need tighter control.
> 
> Sandi
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jude
> DaShiell via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 6:25 PM
> To: Doula Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Food exchange site?
> 
> Calories have been found to be a red herring although a factor leveled with
> other nutritional factors.  To explain this, empty calories are empty
> calories.  If those calories fail to bring other nutritional benefits those
> consuming them really do get cheated.
> 
> This is reflected in the U.S.D.A. 2019 revised food Guideance.
> 
> Diabetes-Talk wrote:
> 
>> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 13:10:11
>> From: Doula Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Doula Jarboe <doula.jarboe at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Food exchange site?
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> This is the first time I've heard anything about something like food 
>> exchanges. When I started going to my health and wellness center, I 
>> was given an app recommendation for being able to find foods and their 
>> nutritional make-up. The clinic is more concerned about tracking 
>> calories, but I found that it had other nutritional information as 
>> well. I also have kidney disease, and so have to watch potassium and 
>> sodium as well. And not all foods will show potassium levels, so that 
>> can get tricky for me. Anyways, the app is called my fitness pal. I'm 
>> an Android user, and I was skeptical about if it would be accessible 
>> or not. I found it fairly easy to use. I'd imagine there's probably an 
>> app for the Iphone as well. Hope this helps.
>> Doula
>> 
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