[Diabetes-Talk] Food exchange site?

Thu Sep 12 14:56:26 UTC 2019

Yes, ultimately, diabetes is a very individual disease. What works for one, doesn't work for another. Most carbs don't impact me as much as described here, but I just choose to restrict wheat/grains, pastas, sugar, etc. from my diet. I have been vegetarian for years and have been vegan since last year. But what I do may not work for others. As long as we are testing and following what works for us, that's most important, smile.

Bridgit

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From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of Jamie Gurganus via Diabetes-Talk
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 9:51 AM
To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: Jamie Gurganus <jamielgurganus at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Food exchange site?

Sandy,

I am following the almost identical died that you are these days. I find that all of the above things you mentioned will spike my blood sugar very high and take forever to get back down. I do miss having a bowl of cereal with almond milk in the morning, but I just can’t make it work for me. I do know that other people can eat these things, such as oatmeal and just take more insulin to cover for it. However, that just doesn’t seem to work for me. Like you said, every diabetic is different in what affects them and what doesn’t. After 49 years of being a diabetic, I am finding that I am more sensitive to foods that used to not affect my blood sugars. I also know that it takes forever for my high blood sugar to get back down to normal. I keep my Dexcom high alert set at 160, since I feel terrible once I hit 180 and have to take a huge amount of insulin to get it back down to normal.

        Jamie

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> On Sep 12, 2019, at 9:39 AM, Sandi Ryan via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Sorry, Bridgit. I guess my comments were about my personal way of 
> handling things. I do not restrict foods. If I find a food that really 
> affects my blood sugar, I eat it very seldom. And there's a lot less 
> calculation with Type 2. But I have cut out almost all sugar, 
> non-nutritive sweeteners, and refined flours from my diet, meaning 
> very few processed foods (no crackers, chips, cereals, baked goods, 
> etc. made with these things), which is, by the way, different from 
> cutting out a whole food group or two. Doing that has made diabetes Type 2 very easy to handle.
> 
> So thanks for your comments. I'm right and you're right. It depends on 
> the control the person has.
> 
> Sandi
> 
> 
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> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 7:52 AM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Bridgit Kuenning-Pollpeter <bkpollpeter at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Food exchange site?
> 
> Completely agree, except what you describe is what I do as a type 1. 
> Or really anyone using insulin to meal bolus. In my opinion, type 2s 
> not bolusing have tighter practices  and more restrictions than a type 
> 1 who essentially can eat whatever, whenever as long as they have 
> their insulin/carb ratio right and are using it correctly. I don't 
> personally eat a lot of carbs, but with my pump, I just calculate my 
> insulin/carb ratio whenever I eat carbs, and it doesn't matter what 
> time of day it is, or what type of carb. Same for anyone bolusing with a pen.
> 
> But regardless if type 1 or type 2 or using insulin, counting carbs is 
> the most important thing. And understanding how carbs work in the 
> body, particularly your own, grin.
> 
> Bridgit
> 
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> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Sandi Ryan via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:14 PM
> To: 'Diabetes Talk for the Blind' <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: sjryan2 at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Food exchange site?
> 
> Right. And MyFitnessPal may be a good long-run tool, but to learn 
> about exchanges, you need to get the booklet from, I think, the 
> American Diabetes Association to find out what the exchanges are. 
> Reading the nutrients in foods can be pretty daunting when you first 
> start, and sometimes one is better with an idea of what's in a food 
> rather than the exact amount of a nutrient down to the nearest 
> half-gram or whatever. Also, for learning, my objection to 
> MyFitnessPal and other apps (there are quite a few!) is that many of 
> the foods listed are entered by individual users, who may or may not 
> have carefully calculated the serving sizes and the nutrients in those 
> servings. As I said, they can be good tools, but I think it's better 
> to learn about the options first. I do not in any way recommend 
> counting calories! Energy is the least important thing to know about 
> your food! For people with diabetes, who don't have kidney disease 
> anyway, the most important nutrient is the carbohydrate count in the 
> serving of whatever you ate. And over time I recommend learning 
> approximate carb counts for the foods you eat most frequently, 
> establishing an eating pattern, and not counting anything because 
> you've learned the usual foods. Then you can just look up new foods as needed, rather than counting things carefully. This is advice for Type 2's. If you're a Type 1, you need tighter control.
> 
> Sandi
> 
> 
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> From: Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org> On Behalf Of 
> Jude DaShiell via Diabetes-Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 6:25 PM
> To: Doula Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at panix.com>
> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Food exchange site?
> 
> Calories have been found to be a red herring although a factor leveled 
> with other nutritional factors.  To explain this, empty calories are 
> empty calories.  If those calories fail to bring other nutritional 
> benefits those consuming them really do get cheated.
> 
> This is reflected in the U.S.D.A. 2019 revised food Guideance.
> 
> Diabetes-Talk wrote:
> 
>> Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 13:10:11
>> From: Doula Jarboe via Diabetes-Talk <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: Diabetes Talk for the Blind <diabetes-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Doula Jarboe <doula.jarboe at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Diabetes-Talk] Food exchange site?
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> This is the first time I've heard anything about something like food 
>> exchanges. When I started going to my health and wellness center, I 
>> was given an app recommendation for being able to find foods and 
>> their nutritional make-up. The clinic is more concerned about 
>> tracking calories, but I found that it had other nutritional 
>> information as well. I also have kidney disease, and so have to watch 
>> potassium and sodium as well. And not all foods will show potassium 
>> levels, so that can get tricky for me. Anyways, the app is called my 
>> fitness pal. I'm an Android user, and I was skeptical about if it 
>> would be accessible or not. I found it fairly easy to use. I'd 
>> imagine there's probably an app for the Iphone as well. Hope this helps.
>> Doula
>> 
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