[Dtb-talk] Listening to DTB Downloads

Lynn Evans evans-lynn at comcast.net
Sat Nov 1 00:57:03 UTC 2008


Greg I am not locked out of the system. And there is no need for me to write 
my congressperson.



You on the other hand being in Australia are.



I have been enjoying the product of NLS' labor for the past two years.



It would serve this list better if you would go ahead and do your thing with 
your DAISY books and quit your belly aching about Bookshare and NLS not 
doing it the right way.





End of rant

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg Kearney" <gkearney at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Listening to DTB Downloads


A couple of points.

First once you have the recording you would have a perfect digital
master and every copy you make would itself be perfect. This is not
like making a tape copy from a tape where quality degrades with each
copy. Further these player will play be book unattended from start to
finish. Once you start the recording process you could let it run by
itself and when your software detect say a minute of silence it can be
set to stop recording. It's not like tapes where you have to be
tending it all the time turning the tape over putting in new ones and
so on.

Second anyone wanting to copy books this way does not care about the
DAISY navigation because they will be selling them to the general
public who don't have DAISY playback devices. Anyone who did want the
DAISY navigation would have a player anyway and legal access to the
book so there is no market there.

This whole "we will not authorize software playback" is a solution
looking for a problem. There has never been a serious problem with
pirated NLS recordings and tape player for those recording have been
sold to anyone for many years.

A simple DAISY book with the audio file and smil file names randomized
would keep all but the most determined from gaining access to the book
and meet the demands of the copyright act.

The NLS has spent untold amount of time and money, which has delayed
the introduction of digital talking books in the U.S. by a decade, on
an ineffective digital rights management sceme that can be defeated
with a $2 patch cord.

Greg Kearney
Curtin University Centre for Accessible Technology
www.cucat.org

On Oct 31, 2008, at 5:02 PM, Mike Freeman wrote:

> The thinking is that such Rube Goldberg engineering jobs wouldn't be
> as marketable, not to mention the fact that one would lose abbl the
> Daisy navigation.
>
>
> Mike
>
>
> #- Original Message #-
> From: tim karen <tkaren at san.rr.com>
> To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: 2008/10/31 21:22:30
> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Listening to DTB Downloads
>
>>
>>
>> But what is to stop the same thing with the hard player? If it has an
>> earphone plug, it can do the same.
>>
>> Tim Karen
>>
>> Mike Freeman wrote:
>>> Nope. NLS has decided as a matter of policy that the encryption
>>> algorithm will not be made available for software players due to
>>> the danger of "reverse engineering" the books, thus violating the
>>> copyright laws.
>>>
>>> Mike Freeman
>>>
>>> #- Original Message #-
>>> From: tim karen <tkaren at san.rr.com>
>>> To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Date: 2008/10/31 18:44:48
>>> Subject: [Dtb-talk] Listening to DTB Downloads
>>>
>>>
>>>> Do you know if the EasyReader Software that can be purchased from
>>>> RFBD
>>>> will play the NLS digital download books? If not, is there any
>>>> software
>>>> that can?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Tim Karen for Dorothy Karen
>>>>
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