[Dtb-talk] Listening to DTB Downloads

Sat Nov 1 04:25:25 UTC 2008

Ah but you are mistaken, I am a U.S. citizen who spends part of my  
time in Australia and part of it in the United States. I am also a  
patron of both the U.S. NLS program (expatriate citizen can accessit  
overseas) and that of Western Australia. As such I am distressed by  
the time, expense and delay that my government has imposed on this  
service particularly when I compare it to other library services world  
wide.

Greg Kearney
Curtin University Centre for Accessible Technology
www.cucat.org

On Oct 31, 2008, at 6:57 PM, Lynn Evans wrote:

> Greg I am not locked out of the system. And there is no need for me  
> to write
> my congressperson.
>
>
>
> You on the other hand being in Australia are.
>
>
>
> I have been enjoying the product of NLS' labor for the past two years.
>
>
>
> It would serve this list better if you would go ahead and do your  
> thing with
> your DAISY books and quit your belly aching about Bookshare and NLS  
> not
> doing it the right way.
>
>
>
>
>
> End of rant
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greg Kearney" <gkearney at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 7:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Listening to DTB Downloads
>
>
> A couple of points.
>
> First once you have the recording you would have a perfect digital
> master and every copy you make would itself be perfect. This is not
> like making a tape copy from a tape where quality degrades with each
> copy. Further these player will play be book unattended from start to
> finish. Once you start the recording process you could let it run by
> itself and when your software detect say a minute of silence it can be
> set to stop recording. It's not like tapes where you have to be
> tending it all the time turning the tape over putting in new ones and
> so on.
>
> Second anyone wanting to copy books this way does not care about the
> DAISY navigation because they will be selling them to the general
> public who don't have DAISY playback devices. Anyone who did want the
> DAISY navigation would have a player anyway and legal access to the
> book so there is no market there.
>
> This whole "we will not authorize software playback" is a solution
> looking for a problem. There has never been a serious problem with
> pirated NLS recordings and tape player for those recording have been
> sold to anyone for many years.
>
> A simple DAISY book with the audio file and smil file names randomized
> would keep all but the most determined from gaining access to the book
> and meet the demands of the copyright act.
>
> The NLS has spent untold amount of time and money, which has delayed
> the introduction of digital talking books in the U.S. by a decade, on
> an ineffective digital rights management sceme that can be defeated
> with a $2 patch cord.
>
> Greg Kearney
> Curtin University Centre for Accessible Technology
> www.cucat.org
>
> On Oct 31, 2008, at 5:02 PM, Mike Freeman wrote:
>
>> The thinking is that such Rube Goldberg engineering jobs wouldn't be
>> as marketable, not to mention the fact that one would lose abbl the
>> Daisy navigation.
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> #- Original Message #-
>> From: tim karen <tkaren at san.rr.com>
>> To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: 2008/10/31 21:22:30
>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Listening to DTB Downloads
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But what is to stop the same thing with the hard player? If it has  
>>> an
>>> earphone plug, it can do the same.
>>>
>>> Tim Karen
>>>
>>> Mike Freeman wrote:
>>>> Nope. NLS has decided as a matter of policy that the encryption
>>>> algorithm will not be made available for software players due to
>>>> the danger of "reverse engineering" the books, thus violating the
>>>> copyright laws.
>>>>
>>>> Mike Freeman
>>>>
>>>> #- Original Message #-
>>>> From: tim karen <tkaren at san.rr.com>
>>>> To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Date: 2008/10/31 18:44:48
>>>> Subject: [Dtb-talk] Listening to DTB Downloads
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Do you know if the EasyReader Software that can be purchased from
>>>>> RFBD
>>>>> will play the NLS digital download books? If not, is there any
>>>>> software
>>>>> that can?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim Karen for Dorothy Karen
>>>>>
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