[Dtb-talk] Braille Monitor in Daisy format

David Nelson david at attainmentcompany.com
Fri May 8 14:47:28 UTC 2009 

I tried using the Microscoft "Save as DAISY" tool and was frustrated at
almost every step, particulary the installation details. I tried the
OpenOffice solution (odt2dtbook) and was amazed at how easy it was to load
and use. And the support information is easy to get to and well written.

http://odt2dtbook.sourceforge.net/

Of course, this assumes that you have first loaded the OpenOffice.org Writer
software, which is free. Even though I routinely use Microsoft Word, I open
then in OpenOffice to use the DAISY conversion extension there.

I don't mean to unfairly criticize the Microsoft Word solution -- in the
hands of a capable user (not me, apparently) it is probably an awesome
conversion tool. OpenOffice was simply the path of least resistance for me.

-David Nelson, Attainment Company

-----Original Message-----
From: dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Kearney
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 2:52 PM
To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Braille Monitor in Daisy format

I use OpenOffice 3 and the odt2dtbook plug in.


On May 7, 2009, at 12:11 PM, T. Joseph Carter wrote:

> Okay, I never really got into production of DAISY because the DAISY  
> pipeline has come into existence while I've been in my current  
> graduate program.  Long story short, I haven't had time to look into  
> it very much, particularly since there are components that have to  
> be set up together in order to make it work.
>
> It probably doesn't help much that Word 2008 is so horrifyingly  
> awful that I can't stand to use it.  I do most of my writing in  
> TextEdit or using a command-line editor and dump it into Pages for  
> polishing, these days.
>
> Joseph
>
>
> On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 06:04:28AM -0600, Greg Kearney wrote:
>> There is a script in the Daisy Pipeline called "Audio Tagger" that  
>> will put ID3 tags on all the audio in a DAISY book's audio files  
>> and build out sets of various kinds of playlists, including one for  
>> iPods. We have been doing those to our books so they can be played  
>> back in iPods and other such devices. You will not get all the cool  
>> DAISY navigation and handling features but you do get playback.
>>
>> Greg Kearney
>> 535 S. Jackson St.
>> Casper, Wyoming 82601
>> 307-224-4022
>> gkearney at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On 07/05/2009, at 1:44 AM, T. Joseph Carter wrote:
>>
>>> Wait, how do you get DAISY into an iPod?  I was considering  
>>> writing  this insane bit of Python to try and build a playlist out  
>>> of the mp3  files in an audio-only talking book to import into  
>>> iTunes for that  purpose.
>>>
>>> There's a better solution?
>>>
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 03:14:14AM -0600, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>>> These are standard DAISY books and any DAISY playback system or   
>>>> hardware should support saving your location in them as well as   
>>>> bookmarks and other DAISY navigation and reading functions. They  
>>>> can also be played on iPod and other similar devices but those do  
>>>> not offer such options.
>>>>
>>>> Greg Kearney
>>>> 535 S. Jackson St.
>>>> Casper, Wyoming 82601
>>>> 307-224-4022
>>>> gkearney at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 06/05/2009, at 1:25 AM, Rakesh Chand wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Greg,
>>>>>
>>>>> Once again, it's me! would you be so kind enough to send us  
>>>>> those   tips. I'd love to be able to stop & resume from the same  
>>>>> place  rather than hearing the whole thing!
>>>>>
>>>>> Rakesh
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Kearney" <gkearney at gmail.com 
>>>>> >
>>>>> To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 7:05 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Braille Monitor in Daisy format
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> There are some advantages to DAISY even at just the simplest   
>>>>>> level  of navigation, first you can move between the articles,   
>>>>>> second it  can be placed as a single set of files into the   
>>>>>> player. You can  bookmark sections and the player will  
>>>>>> remember  where you are in the  reading of each issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greg Kearney
>>>>>> 535 S. Jackson St.
>>>>>> Casper, Wyoming 82601
>>>>>> 307-224-4022
>>>>>> gkearney at gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 01/05/2009, at 11:33 AM, Jim Barbour wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unless its been recently fixed, the NFB is not good at using a
>>>>>>> standard filename template, so its hard to automate the    
>>>>>>> downloading of
>>>>>>> the mp3 files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would love to see a sync'ed narrated/text version of the   
>>>>>>> monitor,
>>>>>>> but as I understand Greg, this is labor intensive and so is  
>>>>>>> not  likely
>>>>>>> to appear.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Without a synced version, I have a hard time seeing the  
>>>>>>> benefit of
>>>>>>> using Daisy to navigate articles vs having each article in  
>>>>>>> its  own  mp3
>>>>>>> file (which is how the NFB pubishes them)  I'm very curious  
>>>>>>> how  others
>>>>>>> how others compare these two types of navigation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 11:20:52AM -0600, Brett Winches wrote:
>>>>>>>> Greg,  The mp3 files of the Monitor are posted on the  
>>>>>>>> website   monthly. I am not sure if the lead time is  
>>>>>>>> sufficient but  think   all publication is now synchronized  
>>>>>>>> to have multiple  media out  at  the same time.  Good luck.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:dtb-talk-
bounces at nfbnet.org 
>>>>>>>> ] On Behalf Of Greg Kearney
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 10:16 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Braille Monitor in Daisy format
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you. In the case of the Braille Monitor and other such   
>>>>>>>> publications from the NFB we will need to arrange a more    
>>>>>>>> permanent arrangement with them for doing such production  
>>>>>>>> work  moving  forward. I believe that we have proved the  
>>>>>>>> worth of such  however.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gregory Kearney
>>>>>>>> Manager - Accessible Media
>>>>>>>> Association for the Blind of Western Australia
>>>>>>>> 61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101
>>>>>>>> Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Telephone: +61 (08) 9311 8202
>>>>>>>> Telephone: +1 (307) 224-4022 (North America)
>>>>>>>> Fax: +61 (08) 9361 8696
>>>>>>>> Toll free: 1800 658 388 (Australia only)
>>>>>>>> Email: gkearney at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 01/05/2009, at 8:19 AM, Steve Cook wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is great!  I look forward to reading more material such  
>>>>>>>>> as this
>>>>>>>>> in Daisy.  It is so much easier to navigate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Steve Cook
>>>>>>>>> Assistive Technology Specialist
>>>>>>>>> SC Commission for the Blind
>>>>>>>>> 1430 Confederate Avenue
>>>>>>>>> Columbia, SC 29201
>>>>>>>>> Phone: (803) 898-8788
>>>>>>>>> Fax: (803) 898-8882
>>>>>>>>> E-Mail: stcook at sccb.sc.gov
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:dtb-talk-
>>>>>>>>> bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg Kearney
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:27 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Dtb-talk] Braille Monitor in Daisy format
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We got permission to do this from the NFB national office.   
>>>>>>>>> Here is a
>>>>>>>>> link to the Braille Monitor for May 2009 in DAISY format    
>>>>>>>>> produced at
>>>>>>>>> the Association for the Blind of Western Australia.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
http://www.cucat.org/library/openbiblio/shared/biblio_view.php?bibid=7
>>>>>>>>> 9106&tab=opac
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We are using this to work out how to handle magazines and like
>>>>>>>>> materials.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gregory Kearney
>>>>>>>>> Manager - Accessible Media
>>>>>>>>> Association for the Blind of Western Australia
>>>>>>>>> 61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101
>>>>>>>>> Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Telephone: +61 (08) 9311 8202
>>>>>>>>> Telephone: +1 (307) 224-4022 (North America)
>>>>>>>>> Fax: +61 (08) 9361 8696
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>>>>>>>>> Email: gkearney at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
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Gregory Kearney
Manager - Accessible Media
Association for the Blind of Western Australia
61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101
Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia

Telephone: +61 (08) 9311 8202
Telephone: +1 (307) 224-4022 (North America)
Fax: +61 (08) 9361 8696
Toll free: 1800 658 388 (Australia only)
Email: gkearney at gmail.com


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