[Dtb-talk] Free DAISY Software Installation Issues

Peter Donahue pdonahue1 at sbcglobal.net
Fri May 8 18:54:09 UTC 2009 

Hello David and Listers,

    I've had installation issues with the Microsoft Save as DAISY Add-in, 
OBI, and most recently AMIS when I  installed them on our machines. I 
recently had such an issue when installing AMIS on a brand new machine we 
purchassed for my wife last week when her old PC blew up.

    Some here have said that there's no need to spend big bucks for this 
type of software, but if you're constantly having installation wars with 
free DAISY production and reading programs you're better off to pay the 
bucks rather than putting up with one big hassle. If developers continue to 
produce these free tools they need to do a better job of noting in the 
system requirements additional components needed for the software to run, or 
better yet installing these programs on multiple computer environments to be 
sure they will install and run correctly. David you're not the only one who 
has had these kind of issues.

Peter Donahue
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Nelson" <david at attainmentcompany.com>
To: "'Discussion of Digital Talking Books'" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Braille Monitor in Daisy format


I tried using the Microscoft "Save as DAISY" tool and was frustrated at
almost every step, particulary the installation details. I tried the
OpenOffice solution (odt2dtbook) and was amazed at how easy it was to load
and use. And the support information is easy to get to and well written.

http://odt2dtbook.sourceforge.net/

Of course, this assumes that you have first loaded the OpenOffice.org Writer
software, which is free. Even though I routinely use Microsoft Word, I open
then in OpenOffice to use the DAISY conversion extension there.

I don't mean to unfairly criticize the Microsoft Word solution -- in the
hands of a capable user (not me, apparently) it is probably an awesome
conversion tool. OpenOffice was simply the path of least resistance for me.

-David Nelson, Attainment Company

-----Original Message-----
From: dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Greg Kearney
Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2009 2:52 PM
To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Braille Monitor in Daisy format

I use OpenOffice 3 and the odt2dtbook plug in.


On May 7, 2009, at 12:11 PM, T. Joseph Carter wrote:

> Okay, I never really got into production of DAISY because the DAISY
> pipeline has come into existence while I've been in my current
> graduate program.  Long story short, I haven't had time to look into
> it very much, particularly since there are components that have to
> be set up together in order to make it work.
>
> It probably doesn't help much that Word 2008 is so horrifyingly
> awful that I can't stand to use it.  I do most of my writing in
> TextEdit or using a command-line editor and dump it into Pages for
> polishing, these days.
>
> Joseph
>
>
> On Thu, May 07, 2009 at 06:04:28AM -0600, Greg Kearney wrote:
>> There is a script in the Daisy Pipeline called "Audio Tagger" that
>> will put ID3 tags on all the audio in a DAISY book's audio files
>> and build out sets of various kinds of playlists, including one for
>> iPods. We have been doing those to our books so they can be played
>> back in iPods and other such devices. You will not get all the cool
>> DAISY navigation and handling features but you do get playback.
>>
>> Greg Kearney
>> 535 S. Jackson St.
>> Casper, Wyoming 82601
>> 307-224-4022
>> gkearney at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On 07/05/2009, at 1:44 AM, T. Joseph Carter wrote:
>>
>>> Wait, how do you get DAISY into an iPod?  I was considering
>>> writing  this insane bit of Python to try and build a playlist out
>>> of the mp3  files in an audio-only talking book to import into
>>> iTunes for that  purpose.
>>>
>>> There's a better solution?
>>>
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 03:14:14AM -0600, Greg Kearney wrote:
>>>> These are standard DAISY books and any DAISY playback system or
>>>> hardware should support saving your location in them as well as
>>>> bookmarks and other DAISY navigation and reading functions. They
>>>> can also be played on iPod and other similar devices but those do
>>>> not offer such options.
>>>>
>>>> Greg Kearney
>>>> 535 S. Jackson St.
>>>> Casper, Wyoming 82601
>>>> 307-224-4022
>>>> gkearney at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 06/05/2009, at 1:25 AM, Rakesh Chand wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Greg,
>>>>>
>>>>> Once again, it's me! would you be so kind enough to send us
>>>>> those   tips. I'd love to be able to stop & resume from the same
>>>>> place  rather than hearing the whole thing!
>>>>>
>>>>> Rakesh
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Kearney" <gkearney at gmail.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 7:05 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Braille Monitor in Daisy format
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> There are some advantages to DAISY even at just the simplest
>>>>>> level  of navigation, first you can move between the articles,
>>>>>> second it  can be placed as a single set of files into the
>>>>>> player. You can  bookmark sections and the player will
>>>>>> remember  where you are in the  reading of each issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greg Kearney
>>>>>> 535 S. Jackson St.
>>>>>> Casper, Wyoming 82601
>>>>>> 307-224-4022
>>>>>> gkearney at gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 01/05/2009, at 11:33 AM, Jim Barbour wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unless its been recently fixed, the NFB is not good at using a
>>>>>>> standard filename template, so its hard to automate the
>>>>>>> downloading of
>>>>>>> the mp3 files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would love to see a sync'ed narrated/text version of the
>>>>>>> monitor,
>>>>>>> but as I understand Greg, this is labor intensive and so is
>>>>>>> not  likely
>>>>>>> to appear.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Without a synced version, I have a hard time seeing the
>>>>>>> benefit of
>>>>>>> using Daisy to navigate articles vs having each article in
>>>>>>> its  own  mp3
>>>>>>> file (which is how the NFB pubishes them)  I'm very curious
>>>>>>> how  others
>>>>>>> how others compare these two types of navigation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 11:20:52AM -0600, Brett Winches wrote:
>>>>>>>> Greg,  The mp3 files of the Monitor are posted on the
>>>>>>>> website   monthly. I am not sure if the lead time is
>>>>>>>> sufficient but  think   all publication is now synchronized
>>>>>>>> to have multiple  media out  at  the same time.  Good luck.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:dtb-talk-
bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> ] On Behalf Of Greg Kearney
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 10:16 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] Braille Monitor in Daisy format
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thank you. In the case of the Braille Monitor and other such
>>>>>>>> publications from the NFB we will need to arrange a more
>>>>>>>> permanent arrangement with them for doing such production
>>>>>>>> work  moving  forward. I believe that we have proved the
>>>>>>>> worth of such  however.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gregory Kearney
>>>>>>>> Manager - Accessible Media
>>>>>>>> Association for the Blind of Western Australia
>>>>>>>> 61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101
>>>>>>>> Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Telephone: +61 (08) 9311 8202
>>>>>>>> Telephone: +1 (307) 224-4022 (North America)
>>>>>>>> Fax: +61 (08) 9361 8696
>>>>>>>> Toll free: 1800 658 388 (Australia only)
>>>>>>>> Email: gkearney at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 01/05/2009, at 8:19 AM, Steve Cook wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is great!  I look forward to reading more material such
>>>>>>>>> as this
>>>>>>>>> in Daisy.  It is so much easier to navigate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Steve Cook
>>>>>>>>> Assistive Technology Specialist
>>>>>>>>> SC Commission for the Blind
>>>>>>>>> 1430 Confederate Avenue
>>>>>>>>> Columbia, SC 29201
>>>>>>>>> Phone: (803) 898-8788
>>>>>>>>> Fax: (803) 898-8882
>>>>>>>>> E-Mail: stcook at sccb.sc.gov
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:dtb-talk-
>>>>>>>>> bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg Kearney
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 10:27 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Dtb-talk] Braille Monitor in Daisy format
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We got permission to do this from the NFB national office.
>>>>>>>>> Here is a
>>>>>>>>> link to the Braille Monitor for May 2009 in DAISY format
>>>>>>>>> produced at
>>>>>>>>> the Association for the Blind of Western Australia.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
http://www.cucat.org/library/openbiblio/shared/biblio_view.php?bibid=7
>>>>>>>>> 9106&tab=opac
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We are using this to work out how to handle magazines and like
>>>>>>>>> materials.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gregory Kearney
>>>>>>>>> Manager - Accessible Media
>>>>>>>>> Association for the Blind of Western Australia
>>>>>>>>> 61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101
>>>>>>>>> Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Telephone: +61 (08) 9311 8202
>>>>>>>>> Telephone: +1 (307) 224-4022 (North America)
>>>>>>>>> Fax: +61 (08) 9361 8696
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>>>>>>>>> Email: gkearney at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
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Gregory Kearney
Manager - Accessible Media
Association for the Blind of Western Australia
61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101
Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia

Telephone: +61 (08) 9311 8202
Telephone: +1 (307) 224-4022 (North America)
Fax: +61 (08) 9361 8696
Toll free: 1800 658 388 (Australia only)
Email: gkearney at gmail.com


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